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    I don't really care if some people prefer latest cars with some latest desings and some prefer old outdated ones. Meron po ba kayong point na which car design ay bagay sa mga car addicts?

    New Cars:



    or

    Outdated cars:




    Decide nga kung kayo ay mahilig sa mga latest o sa mga outdated na kotse...

    As for me, I prefer the designs of latest-generation models, and debuted ones... Because IMO, new is better than retro. Or should I say, I'm the anti-retro type?

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    Outdated (or older) cars require more maintenance and thus require a gearhead or a car addict more than a new car.

    Plus the streets here in our country is not really good for new cars. In a short period of time (unless your car is kept and not used) your new car will have all the scars cars get when used in the (dangerous!) streets of the Philippines.

    Add to this the post-2000 cars from Toyota suck. Big time. Older Toyotas are very nice to own, easy to maintain and overall very reliable.

    But if you are a common car owner not wanting the headache or the challenges of car mods, maintenance and upgrades for older cars then by all means a new car is for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leopaul View Post
    I don't really care if some people prefer latest cars with some latest desings and some prefer old outdated ones. Meron po ba kayong point na which car design ay bagay sa mga car addicts?

    ---

    Decide nga kung kayo ay mahilig sa mga latest o sa mga outdated na kotse...

    As for me, I prefer the designs of latest-generation models, and debuted ones... Because IMO, new is better than retro. Or should I say, I'm the anti-retro type?
    some cars kasi are special

    kahit old model na, they have this desireability about them

    example is a Mercedes built by Porsche

    i'm not a Mercedes fanatic but i know some Mercedes fanatics and they just love that car



    wiki:
    Between 1991 and 1995, Mercedes-Benz sold a sport version of the W124, the Mercedes-Benz 500 E, created in close cooperation with Porsche. Each 500 E was hand-built by Porsche, being transported back and forth between the Mercedes plant and Porsche's Rossle-Bau plant in Zuffenhausen during assembly — taking a full 18 days to complete each model. Design began in 1989 and into 1991. Between 1992 and 1994, Mercedes/Porsche built a total of 10,359 500 E's (1990 — 46 units; 1991 — 2,566 units; 1992 — 4,416 units; 1993 — 1,596 units; 1994 — 1,735 units)[1]. Called '500 E' through model year 1993, for model year 1994 it was face-lifted along with the rest of the range and renamed to 'E 500'.Of these, 1505 of the "super" sports sedans were imported into the USA between 1992–1994, or roughly 500 cars per year of importation.
    then there are those who love the E30 BMW M3


    kanya kanya yan eh

    you may think "why the hell are those people so hung up on those old cars?"

    maybe some people just develop an attachment to some cars

    others don't form attachment to cars and always upgrade to new models when new models come out

    pero as years pass and you experience owning many cars, definitely there will be one or two cars that you will fondly remember and wish you hadnt sold

    maybe you would even go search for and buy a used one and restore it

    i know a guy who has a love affair with the old Honda EG hatch

    ilan na ang binili niya

    he just loves that car

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    Ako if I had the sources and the money of course, I`d buy a KE70 and restore it.

    I don't know. That old car still gets my taste.


    Mahirap na kasi magrestore ng old cars at magastos. Kaya each time na may ilalagay ka dun, mapapangiti ka eh ... lalo na pag natapos mo. ;)

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    It depends on what you want and what you're used to.

    It depends on your desire.

    It doesn't matter whether it's harder to find parts (if you like oldies) or those parts and maintenance cost a fortune (if you like new-ies)... whatever you desire, you will invent reasons to support your decision.

    Many enthusiasts like old cars because of a perceived "honesty" or "immediacy" compared to newer cars. They make you feel more connected to the act or essence of driving. Which is why an E30 BMW M3 or a Honda NSX is viewed as iconic.

    Personally. I'm half-and-half. Whether I like "oldies" or new cars depends on the car in question. When my car was new, I preferred new cars. Now that it's old, I prefer old cars. Simply because I like my car.

    There are some old cars I like... some new ones I like, too. And it's not the age that determines what I like. It's merely whether the car is a good car or not. ;)

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    yep

    there are driving enthusiasts who want the raw driving experience

    newer cars have electronics that reduce the raw driving experience

    newer cars insulate the driver

    driving enthusiasts don't want to be insulated
    Last edited by uls; April 17th, 2010 at 11:19 AM.

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    #7
    i like both, latest and outdated.

    pero favorite ko ito:

    outdated:






    latest:

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    There are keeper cars. There are iconic cars. And cars you just simply loved.

    The first may be due to its being revolutionary. The second because of desirability. And the third may be just attachment because it "stood for something" in your life.

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    Dito lang sa Pinas daming mahlig sa oldies, minsan mas malaki pa nagagastos nila para i restore or i maintain yung kanilang oldies kesa bumili ng bago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbo View Post
    There are keeper cars. There are iconic cars. And cars you just simply loved.

    The first may be due to its being revolutionary. The second because of desirability. And the third may be just attachment because it "stood for something" in your life.
    Dito lang sa Pinas daming mahlig sa oldies, minsan mas malaki pa nagagastos nila para i restore or i maintain yung kanilang oldies kesa bumili ng bago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leopaul View Post
    Because IMO, new is better than retro. Or should I say, I'm the anti-retro type?
    i believe you're just the anti-retro type that you were talking about hehe just kidding

    well for me, i believe dun sa quote before na Newer doesn't always mean better

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    I prefer old model car than the latest model. Mas malakas ang dating ng old model design than the latest. Kung titingnan mo new models ngayon madali ka magsawa but when you see an old car that is well maintained hindi ka magsasawa tingnan. Parang kanta, maganda pa rin pakinggan yung mga old songs sa panahon ngayon kaysa sa mga bago na after a month or a week di na nice...heheh. IMO.

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    I prefer both,kung kaya ng budget.

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    honestly, i love old school! its just that im so amazed when sometimes i see 30-50 yr old classic cars driving around the metro, and wondering how did the owners managed to restore or just even keep the engine firing .

    but, its a 50-50 score. just like sir niky said, it depends on what and how i feel for my car.

    if i were to "build" a vehicle. i would put on oldschool styling and modern functionality together. hhhhmmm Porsche 911(any year)? never gets outdated imho

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    For me, some of the older cars look better than their newer versions.

    Examples:
    Toyota Corolla (1987 - 1992)
    Honda City (2000 - 2002)

    The new cars look either bloated (because of the higher beltlines and the melted butter shape) or over-styled.
    Last edited by donbuggy; April 18th, 2010 at 08:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burai View Post
    i believe you're just the anti-retro type that you were talking about hehe just kidding

    well for me, i believe dun sa quote before na Newer doesn't always mean better
    "newer doesn't always mean better." I say you are a lady. . . with good taste.

    I like my old civic.

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    Source .......


    The dumbing-down of the automobile
    Written by : Vernon B. Sarne
    April 05, 2010

    I was recently editing a test-drive article and checking the vehicle’s spec sheet when I realized something: Today’s cars are being equipped with so much safety equipment and so many electronic driving aids, you’d think they were designed for zombies. Many current models boast high-tech features that help make the average person a better and safer driver. It’s good if you think about it, but it also makes you wonder if this is not resulting in a generation of dumb drivers.

    Foremost and oldest on this list of features, of course, is the automatic transmission. Carmakers have virtually eliminated the need for the driver to manually engage the clutch, letting electronics do it for convenience’s sake. The complaint, however, is that humans are still far more efficient than electronics in shifting through gears. When overtaking, for instance, we always wish we had a manual gearshift instead of a device that awkwardly hunts for gears.

    Not anymore. With the advent of the dual-clutch automatic transmission—in which a gear is always engaged because there are two clutches simultaneously functioning—tomorrow’s computerized gearboxes will have the shifting efficiency of a professional race driver. Maybe even better. In fact, I recently read a story about how Ferrari and Lamborghini are soon completely phasing out manual transmission from their cars. The California—apparently the last Ferrari to have a conventional manual gearbox—accelerates from zero to 100kph faster with an automatic transmission than with a manual. We’ve already entered the era in which computers are beginning to outdrive humans.

    This naturally begs the debate as to whether people today are better or worse drivers than they used to be, say, 30 years ago. To make this conundrum easier to comprehend, consider this question: Is Fernando Alonso, who won two Formula 1 championships driving with traction control, a better driver than Jackie Stewart, who won three titles steering his car all by himself? Some opine that Lewis Hamilton wouldn’t have survived driving in the time of Juan Manuel Fangio, when F1 was so unsafe that drivers competed wearing regular shirts and crashes frequently claimed lives.

    Present-day drivers, I think, are too spoiled. We have sensors that scream at us if we’re about to bump something while backing up. We have cameras all around the car that show us nearby objects so we won’t hit them. We have hill-start assist that prevents our stationary car from rolling backward on an incline. We have cruise control that allows us to rest our right foot after we set our cruising speed on the open highway. We have antilock brakes that let us steer the car even after jamming on the brake pedal. We have adaptive headlights that follow the path of a winding road. We even have fuel-economy data that helps us refine our driving style so we can save a few bucks.

    I was at Ford’s R&D center in Michigan earlier this year, and was shown a car that could parallel-park itself. All you had to do was step on the gas. This obviously is good news for people who can’t parallel-park to save their lives. But I have to ask: Isn’t parallel-parking such a basic driving task that if one can’t perform it decently, maybe he or she doesn’t deserve a driving license to begin with? What’s next? A car that will do the driving by itself?

    Actually, it’s no longer such a far-fetched idea—this car-driving-itself thing. In 2007, BMW let me ride an experimental self-driving car around a racetrack in Europe. I was in the driver’s seat and made no input as far as vehicle operation was concerned. I neither touched the steering wheel nor stepped on the pedals. Yet the car drove itself around the track at full throttle, even through the challenging curves. The car was programmed to follow the contours of the track using its navigation system. The experience was surreal, believe me. There was nothing like it. With cars like this, I thought, our kids wouldn’t even need to learn how to drive. Remember, this was nearly three years ago. I won’t be surprised if they have already perfected the system. Perhaps the only obstacle to this now is the cost of the technology, so expecting to see self-driving cars on the road in our lifetime is not entirely a demented exercise.

    Well, the Volvo XC60 already has a system that simply won’t let you run over a pedestrian at 30kph or slower. The car will stop itself if the driver is such a jackass that he keeps composing a text message on his phone even while passing through a school zone. This tells me that the long-term plan of the auto industry is to make cars that are so intelligent it doesn’t matter if cretins are placed in their driver’s seat.

    And so I somewhat pity the kids of today. By the time they’re old enough to drive, they probably won’t even have a clue about what “shifting gears” really means. They will miss out on that exhilarating and liberating feeling of being personally in control of how a car hits its stride. And they will only know the joys of driving through a PlayStation console, never on an actual road.

    Enjoy driving while you still can. Ten years from now, you’ll most likely just sleep through the ride. Which isn’t such a bad prospect, if only to avoid seeing billboards of a ***agenarian Willie Revillame.

Kotseng latest or outdated? Which one?