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    TS: depende talaga sa pag iisip ng bibili at kung anong purpose ang pag bili ng kotse. For practicality and reliability ok parehas ang korean at japanese. Pero as an aspirational vehicle.. wag korean. sabi nga ng sikat na car guru "korean vehicle is not rubbish at all but it's like a supermodel wannabe hanging round the catwalk with a hat she made herself ".

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    OA naman niya. Our Crosswind, Sentra and Vanette all had AC problems within the first two years. We kept them, kahit medyo masakit yung price of AC repair on the Crosswind.
    haha. same tayo ng initial reaction, but the problem was, for months, ang dalas niya sa casa. mga apat na balikan sa casa which by the way, took 2 to 3 days na per balik na hindi magamit ang sasakyan. Dismayado na sila kasi nga, bagong bago yung sasakyan pero laging nasa casa. anyway, happy naman sila ngayon sa Vios.

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    NSX,supra,GTR or ano nga pantapat ng koreans dito?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    NSX,supra,GTR or ano nga pantapat ng koreans dito?
    Siyempre wala! The closest they can get is the G.C, some say it's a Silvia resurrected especially the 2 L turbo. But after enthusiasts began to use it they still reckon the Nissan S chassis to handle way better. I heard the G.C have the same engine as the Evo x, detuned version.

    But time will come they will. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    NSX,supra,GTR or ano nga pantapat ng koreans dito?
    Wala.

    Japanese pa rin. Kasi ang Hyundai was only adapting as OEM parts na galing sa mga Japanese. 1990s lang sila nakapagdevelop ng sariling engine. Halos lahat ng technology like common rail diesel ay inadapt lang din ng mga Korean. Anong technology ba ang sila ang nagdevelop? wala naman yata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BatchOne View Post
    Wala.

    Japanese pa rin. Kasi ang Hyundai was only adapting as OEM parts na galing sa mga Japanese. 1990s lang sila nakapagdevelop ng sariling engine. Halos lahat ng technology like common rail diesel ay inadapt lang din ng mga Korean. Anong technology ba ang sila ang nagdevelop? wala naman yata.
    You're forgetting that in the 1970s and 1980s, Japanese carmakers were just starting their "renaissance" period much like how Hyundai is going today. Toyota, Honda, Nissan.. these brands bank on their 40+ years of heritage while Hyundai has.. what.. started just appearing out in the streets just recently.

    Nissan Skyline gained popularity with the R32. The Supra, with the Mark 4. NSX... uhh... 1990s.. golden age ng Japanese cars If you take note of the times, around 1990s sila talaga naglabas ng magagandang race cars. Can we expect Hyundai to do the same 20 years from now? Who knows?

    I'm still pretty amused they're pitting the GC with the Mustang and Camaro in US comparo tests. Alam ko kasi, in this day and age, only the GT-R and the Lexus LFA represent the top exotics of Japan. Nawala na favorite NSX ko at S2000

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    I'm aware Hyundai is now on it's rennaisance period, but only on its DESIGN APPEARANCE and MARKETING strategy and not technology wise.
    Kaya nga ang tanong ko ano bang technology ang koreano ang nagsimula o nagdevelop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Nissan Skyline gained popularity with the R32. The Supra, with the Mark 4. NSX... uhh... 1990s.. golden age ng Japanese cars If you take note of the times, around 1990s sila talaga naglabas ng magagandang race cars. Can we expect Hyundai to do the same 20 years from now? Who knows?

    I'm still pretty amused they're pitting the GC with the Mustang and Camaro in US comparo tests. Alam ko kasi, in this day and age, only the GT-R and the Lexus LFA represent the top exotics of Japan. Nawala na favorite NSX ko at S2000
    Actually sir the GT-R started it's popularity and legacy back in the 70s pa w/ the KPGC10 GT-R, the 1st GT-R aka "Hakosuka"... when it had made a record of consecutive official race wins Japan. As for the Supra, yep mark 4 around mid 90s since that is Toyota's answer (same inline 6 twin turbo set up) to Nissan's successful group A champ GT-R BNR32. As for Honda, well they made the limited NSX sportscar w/c is one of the best handling rwd Jap sportcar... but the problem is it is underpowered, lesser engine potential compared to it's rivals... much more the S2000 as we can see it hasn't been used much in motorsports.

    Hyundai and Kia's day will come. Maybe after more experience in motorsports, they can build a sportscar as potent as Japan's legendary GT-Rs and company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BatchOne View Post
    Anong technology ba ang sila ang nagdevelop? wala naman yata.
    What does that have to do with anything? Who cares who initially did it as long as it's done properly?

    Yeah... the French had the first automobile... but that doesn't actually mean anything at all by this point.

    Hyundai and Kia started with borrowed technology, but they entered the automotive arms race late. Why reinvent the wheel when it's already there? And yet they're pushing ahead of the Japanese in terms of engine technology and are focusing hard on improving. Hyundai has spent billions on engine development, to the point that they now supply engines to the Japanese.

    The Japanese started that way, too... borrowing technology and copying designs from the Europeans and Americans. They even hired European designers and engineers to upgrade their products. In this way, they're not any different from the Koreans at this point... hell... all automotive companies now are multi-cultural/multi-national efforts.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    ^ Obviously it is has to do with this thread.

    ^ So in short Japanese pa rin period (.) Or Korean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BatchOne View Post
    ^ Obviously it is has to do with this thread.

    ^ So in short Japanese pa rin period (.) Or Korean?
    It has nothing to do with the question.

    Just because the French were the first to build an automobile, should the threadstarter buy a French car? Just because the Americans were the first to modernize auto production, should the threadstarter buy an American car? Just because an Italian company is one of the innovators in CRDi, should the threadstarter buy an Italian car?

    We're talking what's a good buy for a buyer here in the Philippines here and now... In which case, it's quite easy to make a case for the Koreans.

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    Re:performance: doesn't have anything to do with the question... The GT-R is an 80,000 dollar super car, and there are no Koreans in that range. Put up the Genesis against the Z, however, and it's a fairer fight. The Z is better, but it's also more expensive.

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    This topic reminds me of the La Salle-Ateneo rivalry. No matter the debate, year in-year out, di mag papatalo sa isa't isa. The Japanese purist will always trash Korean makes, no matter how good it is. That's why I don't even bother to comment on both subjects.

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    I prefer Korean cars today vs Japs.

    Way back 90s. Mas maganda talaga Japanese Cars. Yung Toyota Revo pati Corolla namin walang mga problema gaano. At di namin pinapansin ang Korean cars because of kalawang issues.

    Fast forward 2012 we try Grand Starex, since Starex lang ang nakita namin na nag survive na Korean car from 90s na up til now naandar pa rin ang mga 1st Gen. Ang ganda na, made me changed my mind about Korean cars. Malayo na naratin nila at far more advanced ang technology compared sa Japanese counterpart.

    And here we got our 2014 Vios! Wala pang 1 taon dami ng issue, lakas sa gas, blinking alarm indicator and lower arm assembly issue (may ingay even malubak na na di malalim).
    Mas mahirap pa nga mag claim ng warranty sa Toyota kesa sa grey-mark na Hyundai namin.

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    Yung Grand Starex ko, parang Delphi yung brand ng injector, hindi na Bosch.

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    I currently own both Japanese and Korean vehicles...

    Dati, bang for the buck ang Korean vehicles... Mura na, maganda/quality pa...

    Ngayon, ka-presyo na ng Japanese vehicles...

    It is a tougher choice, nowadays...


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    If I may ask, bakit wala pang truck/pick up na Korean made dito sa Pilipinas? Di ba nila kaya makipagsabayan sa tibay ng japanese pick ups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Sana di mahantong sa hamunan ng karera tong thread...naalala ko dati gumawa ako ng thread japanese ingenuity vs american muscle, yung mga tsikoteer sa states nagkahamunan. Japanese turbo cars vs american V8... natuloya kaya sila? Hehehe
    baka vtec, vvti vs. crdi???, aba baka gusto nilang makatikim ng BITEK BITEK yang mga koreano na yan...hhehheh!!!!just kidding!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by LexTer View Post
    TS, tyempuhan talaga pagbili ng sasakyan. mapa korean, japanese, american, o european brand pa yan. madami kaming hindi magandang naging experience sa korean cars. pero ganun din sa mga japanese cars. alalahanin natin tao din may gawa nyan.

    eto mga halimbawa. yung starex ng isa naming kapitbahay wala pang 1 year naging mausok na. yung sa isang kapitbahay ok naman. both na nasa 10 to 11 thousand ang mileage. yung FD nang kakilala ko may steering problem ng wala pang 1 year. yung sa amin ok naman.

    kung naalala mo din. nung early 90's pinagtatawanan honda. bat daw gumawa ng kotse e motor lang ginagawa ng kumpanya na yun. nung late 90's na, ang dami ng may gusto ng honda. same din yan sa korean cars. yung sabi nilang may diperensya sa suspension yung mga late 90's na labas, na correct na din naman yun.

    Mas pabor nga kung ginagawang taxi kasi kahit surplus parts ang dami.

    kahit naman sinong may tindahan ang gustong i stock nyan sa bodega e yung fast moving items.
    tama, sa tingin ko rin panapanahon lang yan, kung nung 90's trending ang mga Japanese vehicles ngayon pagbigyan naman natin ang mga Korean to take the scene, baka bukas makalawa china naman ang umariba,..well mukhang di malayong mangyari yun.

    about naman sa mga unit nila, I can't give any comment, wala naman akong bagong korean car sa ngayon e, about sa Japanese vehicles, yes marami ng japanese cars dumaan sa family ko, corrola, fx, mazda, at ang tanging natira ang Revo, so far I am satisfied on its durability, hanggang ngayon never been touched never been kissed ang ang makina niya (no history of overhauled for over 12 years) medyo clutch problems lang but not a big issue madali lang namang gawin e, well, speaking on the korean cars, sabihin na natin korean car noong 90's, kia besta of my uncle 13 years na pero ok na ok parin ngayon, aircon nga lang sumasablay e,


    weather, weather lang....

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    I have never bought a japanese car because IMO it is overpriced and overrated.
    My first car is a hyundai excel '95 which ginawa kong taxi. the first thing that broke down is the AC which i changed to Denso tapos ang problema. Spare parts i used to buy from a korean surplus dealer. Then the dealer started selling orginal and replacement parts for hyundai. the early hyundai cars were based on the mitsubishi saturn engine. i even installed an original mitsubishi engine part. the car is still with me, at hindi pa ako itinirik except nung ma-disconnect yung alternator. matibay ang makina at mabilis pa hangagang nagyon.

    my kia sportage is almost 3 years old 77,000+ kms pero wala pang problema. i bought a chevrolet captiva last december, medyo hinda pa gamit kaya wala pa akong masabi.

    I have seen the latest kia and hyundai and they are well designed and their looks are better than the toyotas and more comparable with the lexus. i think korean car manufacturers are more attuned with the motoring public. just look at the new tucson and sportage. the honda crv and nissan xtrail look old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobotroldan View Post
    I have never bought a japanese car because IMO it is overpriced and overrated.
    My first car is a hyundai excel '95 which ginawa kong taxi. the first thing that broke down is the AC which i changed to Denso tapos ang problema. Spare parts i used to buy from a korean surplus dealer. Then the dealer started selling orginal and replacement parts for hyundai. the early hyundai cars were based on the mitsubishi saturn engine. i even installed an original mitsubishi engine part. the car is still with me, at hindi pa ako itinirik except nung ma-disconnect yung alternator. matibay ang makina at mabilis pa hangagang nagyon.

    my kia sportage is almost 3 years old 77,000+ kms pero wala pang problema. i bought a chevrolet captiva last december, medyo hinda pa gamit kaya wala pa akong masabi.

    I have seen the latest kia and hyundai and they are well designed and their looks are better than the toyotas and more comparable with the lexus. i think korean car manufacturers are more attuned with the motoring public. just look at the new tucson and sportage. the honda crv and nissan xtrail look old.
    nyahahaha..ginawa mong lolo at lola ang crv at xtrail ng Tucson at sport.....

    jk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desert fox View Post
    nyahahaha..ginawa mong lolo at lola ang crv at xtrail ng Tucson at sport.....

    jk.
    parang sinabi niya na old school na yung CRV saka X-TRAIL, hehehe.

    lahat naman din yan maluluma mapa-tucson, sportage, crv o x-trail man yan anong sasakyan ba di naluluma? L300? ADVENTURE?, sure marami pang lalabas dyan mas matitinding model, about dun sa nagsabi na mukhang matanda/luma yung CRV at X-trail, They are not become old, They are just become classic.

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