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    With Isuzu just recently launched the new Isuzu D-max, I think this would be a very interesting topic to be discussed. Which would you choose in terms of reliabllity, performance, affordablity, maintenance cost and best bang for the buck pick-up that is being offered here in our country? I don't know if you would still include the Mitsubishi Strada and Nissan Navarra on your choices but it's up to you.

    Personally for me, I'd pick the Ford Ranger Wildtrak 2.2 A/T. Why? Because of the 4 pick-ups i think this would be the more reliable in the long run, has good power and torque even if it's a 2.2 engine only. If I have the budget for 3.2 bakit hindi? pero sa akin ok nako dito.

    enjoy tsikoteers!

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    Taliban Hilux hehehehe


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    Kung sa area na may casa lahat mga yan, Ford ranger 3.2 imho. Pero overall sa Pinas, either Strada or Hilux. Depende na lang sa purpose. If matindi ang kargahan, hilux, if medium lang naman ang karga strada ako. Malaking bagay warranty eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Kung sa area na may casa lahat mga yan, Ford ranger 3.2 imho. Pero overall sa Pinas, either Strada or Hilux. Depende na lang sa purpose. If matindi ang kargahan, hilux, if medium lang naman ang karga strada ako. Malaking bagay warranty eh.
    mas ok po sa kargahan ang hilux compared to the other 3? our main purpose on why we're buying a pick-up is to haul more. kakargahan ng bigas from our farm sa bulacan papunta sa dito sa house namin sa manila pero occasionally lang naman. our field master can haul 4 to 5 sacks of rice ng walang problem pero ayaw na namin kargahan palagi kasi ayaw na namin malaspag ang we have no plans of selling it. our first choice is the ranger. pero im also trying to get inputs from you guys. dual purpose ang pag post ko ng topic na ito. haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegger View Post
    mas ok po sa kargahan ang hilux compared to the other 3? our main purpose on why we're buying a pick-up is to haul more. kakargahan ng bigas from our farm sa bulacan papunta sa dito sa house namin sa manila pero occasionally lang naman. our field master can haul 4 to 5 sacks of rice ng walang problem pero ayaw na namin kargahan palagi kasi ayaw na namin malaspag ang we have no plans of selling it. our first choice is the ranger. pero im also trying to get inputs from you guys. dual purpose ang pag post ko ng topic na ito. haha.
    If may casa nang ford dyan sa inyo, okay din naman ford, kunti lang kinalaki niya sa hilux eh. Mas mura (medyo ha, but not so much) maintenance nang toyota vs ford at mas madali parts outside the casa. Those are some things to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    If may casa nang ford dyan sa inyo, okay din naman ford, kunti lang kinalaki niya sa hilux eh. Mas mura (medyo ha, but not so much) maintenance nang toyota vs ford at mas madali parts outside the casa. Those are some things to consider.
    if ford casa and toyota tingin ko no prob naman. We're in between Ford Alabang and Ford Manila Bay same with Toyota, hmm. How about Colorado sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegger View Post
    mas ok po sa kargahan ang hilux compared to the other 3? our main purpose on why we're buying a pick-up is to haul more. kakargahan ng bigas from our farm sa bulacan papunta sa dito sa house namin sa manila pero occasionally lang naman. our field master can haul 4 to 5 sacks of rice ng walang problem pero ayaw na namin kargahan palagi kasi ayaw na namin malaspag ang we have no plans of selling it. our first choice is the ranger. pero im also trying to get inputs from you guys. dual purpose ang pag post ko ng topic na ito. haha.
    its up to you bro, but in may own experience I have 2001 lynx and 2006 escape, i sold them both, proved to be headaches in terms of cost of ownership and maintenance due to parts availability.

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    Yung saken naman 2005 ford lynx, 2008 ranger wildtrak and 2010 everest. Bang for the buck if you're planning on keeping it for a long time kasi mababa resale value. Kaya lang binenta ko na sa pinsan ko yung lynx kasi nabaha and kinukumusta ko naman, angganda pa daw ng takbo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jegger View Post
    if ford casa and toyota tingin ko no prob naman. We're in between Ford Alabang and Ford Manila Bay same with Toyota, hmm. How about Colorado sir?
    Hindi pa kasi proven ang after sales service nang chevy pati na din performance nang colorado. Halos same lang with the proven hilux imho. So dun ka na sa safe bet. Kung Mas gusto ford, tapos pang-kargahan, I suggest get the 3.2 huwag yung 2.2 kasi stressed out makina eh, pero kung hindi naman ganun kabigat, puwede na din 2.2. Mahaba pila sa 3.2 eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Hindi pa kasi proven ang after sales service nang chevy pati na din performance nang colorado. Halos same lang with the proven hilux imho. So dun ka na sa safe bet. Kung Mas gusto ford, tapos pang-kargahan, I suggest get the 3.2 huwag yung 2.2 kasi stressed out makina eh, pero kung hindi naman ganun kabigat, puwede na din 2.2. Mahaba pila sa 3.2 eh.
    hmm hindi naman palagi sir kakargahan. occasionally lang may van naman na kinakargahan talaga pag madami. yung 4 to 5 sacks pag bigla lang namin gusto mag-uwi. the van kasi is also used for other business. now i'm thinking about the hilux.. kaya lang ang hirap kasi ma resist ang ranger. hehe. lalo na with it's flood wading capability na 800cm since our area is flood prone. what's the stock hilux 3.0 4x4 wading capability nga pala sir?

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    Usapang baha

    Ranger wildtrak =800mm max
    Hilux = 700mm max
    Strada = 500mm max

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegger View Post
    hmm hindi naman palagi sir kakargahan. occasionally lang may van naman na kinakargahan talaga pag madami. yung 4 to 5 sacks pag bigla lang namin gusto mag-uwi. the van kasi is also used for other business. now i'm thinking about the hilux.. kaya lang ang hirap kasi ma resist ang ranger. hehe. lalo na with it's flood wading capability na 800cm since our area is flood prone. what's the stock hilux 3.0 4x4 wading capability nga pala sir?
    800cm bro? Lampas tao na yan!

    Kidding aside, the advertised flood wading capacity is often very much underrated, so it really cannot be gauged from that. Many high ride height vehicles claim a wading depth of 500mm, these include the Innova, Santa Fe and Strada. Though the real wading capabilities of these three would be be quite different from one another, and definitely more than 500mm, which is barely knee deep. I've seen an Innova wade headlight-level flood, and Strada's and Montero's wade hood level floods. That would be around waist level, or more or less 700-900mm already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    800cm bro? Lampas tao na yan!

    Kidding aside, the advertised flood wading capacity is often very much underrated, so it really cannot be gauged from that. Many high ride height vehicles claim a wading depth of 500mm, these include the Innova, Santa Fe and Strada. Though the real wading capabilities of these three would be be quite different from one another, and definitely more than 500mm, which is barely knee deep. I've seen an Innova wade headlight-level flood, and Strada's and Montero's wade hood level floods. That would be around waist level, or more or less 700-900mm already.
    800cm hindi lang lagpas tao lagpas bahay pa hehehe. 500mm pala ang innova, hindi ko alam yun ah.. para kasi ang baba nya tingnan

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    800cm bro? Lampas tao na yan!

    Kidding aside, the advertised flood wading capacity is often very much underrated, so it really cannot be gauged from that. Many high ride height vehicles claim a wading depth of 500mm, these include the Innova, Santa Fe and Strada. Though the real wading capabilities of these three would be be quite different from one another, and definitely more than 500mm, which is barely knee deep. I've seen an Innova wade headlight-level flood, and Strada's and Montero's wade hood level floods. That would be around waist level, or more or less 700-900mm already.
    sorry 800mm pala. haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegger View Post
    sorry 800mm pala. haha.
    Video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxt9RvnjShw

    Put into good use? :D

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    Sirs,

    Correct me if I'm wrong, pero from what I understand why the new Ranger claims it can wade through 800mm of water depth without worries, is because of the engine's architecture how high the ECU chip, air intake, and the alternator is placed under the hood. Samahan mo pa ng 235mm ground clearance(higher exhaust pipe) and how the cabin is well sealed. So kahit mas mababa pa siguro ng 500mm ang wading capacity ng isang vehicle, basta mataas ang placing at hinde mababasa ng tubig ang mga sensitive na piyesa under the hood, I think kaya ng sasakyan lusungin ang mga leg or waist deep floods dito sa metro manila.

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    That's pretty much it... even if a car's intake will allow it to ford higher floods, there are items in the engine bay that aren't sufficiently waterproofed for long immersion in floods.

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    Amarok vs Ford Ranger vs Isuzu KB300 vs Toyota Hilux vs Nissan Navara vs Mitsubishi Triton - YouTube

    1st place - amarok vw
    2nd place - navara nissan
    3rd place - hilux toyota

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    Old, old video. They're using the old D-Max and the old Ranger.

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    Last edited by AG4; September 26th, 2013 at 05:03 PM.

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