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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Hi, I would like to ask sana kung ano mas prefer niyo dito sa dalawa. I am after

    -Space (We are more of a people-loader type)
    -Reliability
    -Fuel Consumption
    -Resale Value

    I torn between this two kasi we used to own a fuego before, and yung family namin is Isuzu-Blooded kaya napunta sa sportivo. And sa starex naman, we have one pero we are thinking of selling it na kasi sakit na sobra sa maintenance and pang-fuel. Sabi nga ng driver namin na mas matipid pa daw yung truck na 10-wheeler. Pero our starex never failed us sa 11 years niya kaya gusto ko yung starex.

    By the way, pang color-coding, sunday and out-of-town car lang ito.

    Thanks tsikot!

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    Isuzu Sportivo

    Biased ako since
    Isuzu blooded din kami

    indestructible engine nila and f
    uel efficient pa.

    IMHO mas maganda rin porma ng Sportivo.

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    -Space (We are more of a people-loader type) - Hyundai Grand Starex
    -Reliability - A bit equal. The Crosswind is just cheaper to maintain.
    -Fuel Consumption - Crosswind, i guess ?
    -Resale Value - As of now, pareho lang. Pareho sila mataas ang resale value.

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    Iba naman na po ang Grand Starex ngayon kumpara dati.

    Much more powerful engine especially the VGT.

    Problema lang sa Sportivo, it doesn't have a single airbag, and it has no ABS so medyo alanganin sa safety. (CMIIW)

    Starex naman kaya ko gusto compared sa ibang vans dahil may nguso, spacious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chikselog View Post
    Iba naman na po ang Grand Starex ngayon kumpara dati.

    Much more powerful engine especially the VGT.

    Problema lang sa Sportivo, it doesn't have a single airbag, and it has no ABS so medyo alanganin sa safety. (CMIIW)

    Starex naman kaya ko gusto compared sa ibang vans dahil may nguso, spacious.
    Wala nga, chiks.

    Di ko nga malubos maisip na sa mahal ng sportivo ngayon, maski airbag hindi sila makapaglagay ...

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    *AirJason-thanks! pareho lang pala tayo!

    *renzo_d10-oo nga eh, pero i think kaya naging ganon is because medyo priority nila yung reliability ng crosswind/sportivo.

    *Chikselog-oo nga no! wala pala airbag yung sportivo. pero tama ka sa starex kasi i once thought of toyota hiace na grandia pero bigla ko naisip yung placement ng engine. thanks btw!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepcare View Post
    *renzo_d10-oo nga eh, pero i think kaya naging ganon is because medyo priority nila yung reliability ng crosswind/sportivo.

    Kinda pointless. Pag nabangga ka, as if that engine reliability would save you from death as compared to the airbags that could save you even a little bit.

    and meron din modern vans na makakatapat sa reliability ng crosswind, kaya lang sa cheapness ng cost ng maintenance, wala pa siguro.

    uh, btw, the crosswind badly needs a new model.

    since 2002 ( cmiiw ) puro facelift nalang. 2010 na ngayon, for god's sake.

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    For this requirement:
    By the way, pang color-coding, sunday and out-of-town car lang ito.
    Grand Starex.

    Even the base TCi model will have more space for people. Plus, it's real, front facing space for 10 or 12, unlike AUVs which have relatively cramped interiors for that many folks.

    I think you should visit the Hyundai board and check with them for their experiences on reliability and fuel consumption, so you're closer to the source.

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    Its like this, you're choosing between Sportivo's Fuel efficiency and engine reliability against Starex's comfortability power and safety. So what do you prioritize? Sometimes you have to sacrifice one thing from another. Try doing cost benefit analysis and see for your self which would be better.

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    *Starex_Gold-Agree ako sa sinabi mo about sa trooper. Parang ayaw ko na nung hiace kasi parang nakakatakot ipasok sa parking namin. Sa sobrang taas, sasabit na siya.

    *ronw123w124-Thanks! Sa performance, ok lang mag-suffer ako sa kahinaan ng output ng sportivo pero ang kapalit naman nun is yung fuel efficiency nung car which is a plus for me.

    *IMm29-Thanks! Ang problema ko lang is pag example, TCi yung kukunin namin, parang ang bare kasi tignan eh. pero kung kaya ng budget, the CRDi model will be better.

    *digitel-Thanks for the advice! Oo nga eh, you can't get everything you want in 1 car. Kailangan talaga mag-sacrifice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepcare View Post
    *IMm29-Thanks! Ang problema ko lang is pag example, TCi yung kukunin namin, parang ang bare kasi tignan eh. pero kung kaya ng budget, the CRDi model will be better.
    Dagdag na lang po para sulit ang makuhang unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepcare View Post

    *ronw123w124-Thanks! Sa performance, ok lang mag-suffer ako sa kahinaan ng output ng sportivo pero ang kapalit naman nun is yung fuel efficiency nung car which is a plus for me.

    *IMm29-Thanks! Ang problema ko lang is pag example, TCi yung kukunin namin, parang ang bare kasi tignan eh. pero kung kaya ng budget, the CRDi model will be better.
    If you want reliability, go with the TCI model. It's going to be cheaper to maintain that because it has less technology. Since it's going to be a coding, weekend and outing car, go get the Starex. Even if its less fuel efficient, it's very much worth it because of the comfort. Ibang class na ang Starex compared to Crosswind which is very crude.

    For me, Crosswind is pang fleet or pang work vehicle lang. Even the Sportivo. Last year, I went with my friend to get their new Sportivo from the dealership, was very disappointed with the quality of the interior. Everything looks very dated and very 90s. And the dash looks very shiny, mukhang pinunturahan lang para maging tan yung color. I'd rather have an Innova J than than the top of the line Sportivo

    If you find the TCi too bare, just buy accessories for it. After all, the Sportivo is just an accessorized Crosswind. You can have TVs, Cameras and HUs installed din naman.

    And if it's the looks of the Sportivo that you're after, IMO it's not classy at all. Yes it looks macho with those fenders, all terrain tires and other add ons but the Starex still looks a class above the Crosswind. And I hate the engine noise of the isuzu even when just idling.
    Last edited by glntVR; October 15th, 2010 at 12:52 PM.

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    *IMm29-sige, try ko kung mapipiga pa yung budget.

    *glntVR-yun kasi talaga ang mahirap pag may trust ka na sa brand. i'll try na GS nalang kukunin namin. pero kung ayaw talaga, no choice na ako. thanks btw!

Isuzu Sportivo or Hyundai Grand Starex