'04-'05 Ford Everest or '05-'06 Toyota Innova

[GODofZEUS]

Ask lang po guys.

We own a 1998 Mits. Adv. GLS 2.5dsl and its really on the process of negotiating with my husband para mag upgrade na. Our Advie really served us well it was our first car. And hindi kami nagsisi sa decision na iyon.

Now with a budget of around 500k-600k sa tingin po namin ang magandang vehicle for an upgrade would be ’04-’05 Ford Everest diesel or ’05-’06 Toyota Innova diesel.

Gusto po sana namin malaman ang mga reaction nyo regarding:
Fuel Consumption of its diesel engine
Maintenance of the two
Comfort ng driver and passengers
Etc.

Sana po mabigyan nyo kami ng inputs about these two great vehicles.
Salamat po ng marami.

[tidus1203]

With your criteria its a one sided victory for Innova.

Fuel consumption og the old Everest was pathetic (1st gen).
Maintenance of the Innova being a Toyota will be much better than the old first gen Everest
Comfort... Everest, what comfort. Matagtag yang 1st gen kaliga siguro ng Fortuner pre-facelift!

[bolty]

pls read lng po ang toyota thread about problems ng innova 2005 diesel d4d models nasa sticky thread po sya. your decision po after mong mabasa.happy new year .

[lui]

innova nalang. d tlaga maganda gamitin ung everest 1st gen. hina hatak, lakas sa diesel, laki ng turning radius, tagtag. pero mas pogi sya kesa innova.

[scharnhorst]

With your criteria its a one sided victory for Innova.

Fuel consumption og the old Everest was pathetic (1st gen).
Maintenance of the Innova being a Toyota will be much better than the old first gen Everest
Comfort... Everest, what comfort. Matagtag yang 1st gen kaliga siguro ng Fortuner pre-facelift!

Innova maintenance is pricey.

but you're better off with the innova than the 1st gen everest.

comfier, mas matipid, better interior and better power to weight-ratio.

we had to choose between the two vehicles in the last buy. Pagpasok sa everest, putek, 1st generation ranger yung interior!

[vinj]

We've had both vehicles (Innova 2.5 d4d J m/t, G a/t and Everest 2.5 4x2 a/t).

Innova:
- Better Comfort
- Easier to maneuver in the city
- Better FC (averaged around 10 to 11km/l in city driving and 14 to 16 km/l in the highway at 100kph or less with the m/t)
- Parts are somewhat cheaper

Everest:
- Tough suspension; we upgraded the shocks to Old Man Emu to better the ride. If you drive on rough roads a lot this would be a plus to the Everest with its stouter tires and suspension set-up
- Good power (the 2.5 a/t could reach around 175kph on NLEX and had no problem overtaking during our long trips up north)
- No engine problems whatsoever and takes whatever fuel you can throw at it with its old-school diesel system. The problem a friend encountered before was hard starting and smoke which turned out to be his glow plugs which were faulty.
- FC is in the 6 to 7km/l range for the a/t model. On highways expect around 10 to 12 unless you're really hard on the pedal all the way.

Given a choice based on my experience with both and the kind of useage i have (city driving in the week and out of town in the province during weekends), i'd still get an Everest.

Both are generally good vehicles overall, i think the deal maker really is to find one (whether it be a Eve or Innova) in good condition within your price budget. A lot of Everest units you may see would be really well-used IMO.

[renzo_d10]

Fuel Consumption goes to the Innova.

Maintenance doesn't matter. I believe that it's parts isn't that hard to find since the the everest was released for 2 years before it was changed .. same goes to the Innova. However ... the maintenance cost of the everest is obviously higher than the Innova. Knowing ford ... ;)

Comfort, still ... it goes to the innova.

To be safe ... if you prefer the innova ... get the gas. Avoid the diesel ones ... just check the d4d problems thread.

Everest is better when it goes to off-roading. Just check the wheels.

Anyways ... if it was me to pick.

Everest diesel vs. Innova diesel ? Get the Eve.

Everest diesel vs. Innova gas ? Get the Innova.

[GODofZEUS]

Thank you very much for the inputs guys.

Maybe we can deal with the lower mileage/km and higher cost of maintenance of the Everest (it's SUV, kaya mas mahal.) compared to Innova that has engine problems (besides, Everest is really my dream SUV, hehehe! babaw!).

[scharnhorst]

Thank you very much for the inputs guys.

Maybe we can deal with the lower mileage/km and higher cost of maintenance of the Everest (it's SUV, kaya mas mahal.) compared to Innova that has engine problems (besides, Everest is really my dream SUV, hehehe! babaw!).

We have a 2006 innova. 130,000+ km on the clock. we're really very satisfied with it.

And you might want to consider the fuel efficiency of the vehicle you're getting, since pump prices are beginning to climb again

[vinj]

Thank you very much for the inputs guys.

Maybe we can deal with the lower mileage/km and higher cost of maintenance of the Everest (it's SUV, kaya mas mahal.) compared to Innova that has engine problems (besides, Everest is really my dream SUV, hehehe! babaw!).

On the maintenance of the Everest, just don't rely on the CASA and it will be pretty affordable. Buy your parts in Banawe and go to your suking talyers; its a very straightforward truck to maintain as long as the previous owner did not abuse the hell out of it. I've seen flooded Everests being driven to the shop after Ondoy on its own power (sans electritcals and with bashed up windows and body panels). If you have an m/t model and the FC should be better (expect around 8.5 to 10km/L).

[coiter]

based on your criteria and kung city lang, better yung innova. sanay na rin naman kayo sa auv so it is definitely an upgrade over the advie. i would think better ang seating positions nito than the everest. ingress/egress of people and stuff would also be easier because of larger doors and lower height.

the everest is a heavy duty suv based on a pick up. expect a harsh ride, crude amenities and engine. but you can expect it to handle far worse conditions than the innova. maintenance wise, tingin ko mas madali ito kasi "old school" ang engine and shares a lot of parts with the ranger which sold quite well naman. so kahit talyer sa tabi tabi kayang kaya paandarin ito kung malubog sa baha.

personally, everest din ako. i like the ride height and sense of security and reliability ng legitimate suv. though i've seen an innova during ondoy na lumusong sa baha na hanggang headlight niya. nabuhay naman. this was a diesel btw.

goodluck!

[projector]

mahirap ang parts ng everest based on experience ung akin 1 month dumating. toyota na ako para sure

[supervoodoo]

innova diesel

-comfortable ride
-turbo
-tipid sa diesel ang d4d engine, tahimik, less vibration compared sa older diesel engines
-mas mahal ang parts ng d4d, meron yung isang bearing na hindi nabibili ng bearing lang, kasama yung buong assembly which costs around 9k heheh (that sucks)
-elegante ang dating ng innova
-electronic yung silinyador.
-malambot ang clutch pedal, easy on the knees, leg etc
-malaki blind spot sa right side, because malalim yung dashboard? same as my friends latest civic? lalim din dashboard
-mas mahal aircon maintenance, baklas kasi buong dash pag papalinis ang aircon (around 3.5k sa labas 6.5k sa casa)
-pag nagkaproblema malamang sa casa papagawa, hitech kasi yung engine.
-manipis ang kaha and paint
-ang liit ng schocks nito parang pang kotse.
-hindi ko to sasapalaran idaan sa baha, although naka survive nung ondoy pinasok ng tubig yung headlight, palit lang bearing, headlight at alarm.



04/05 ford everest

-stiffer ride compared to the innova, larger tires, HUGE shocks, pang ford trekker yata pang ilalim kaya matibay talaga, di ko sure kung naka lsd na din to, HUGE disk and drum brake
-turbo intercooler, matipid sa gas lalo sa highway, noisier engine at mas malakas vibration, pero mas malakas sa akyatan to kahit puno pa ng pasahero at gamit, pwede pang offroad lalo na yung 4x4 version, proven to be tough, im not sure kung kaya din nya 1 ton load tulad ng trekker.
-old technology engine, kayang gawin ng common mekaniko
-madaming compatible engine parts from nissan and mazda sa autosupply.
-old style ang design ng dash, same sa trekker, mas ok interior ng late 04 or 05
-dual airbag, yung innova walang airbag
-kapal ng kaha at paint
-pakiramdam mo talaga safe ka pag gamit mo to
-really fun to drive, no problem ang humps at lubak kahit patalunin mo pa, I would not do it sa innova baka masira yung shocks hehe.
-mas madali mag drive dito, less blind spots kahit around 17' ang haba nya, i think mas makitid siya sa innova.
-nakakatuwa idaan sa baha, taas kasi ground clearance at kahit abutin pa ng tubig ok lang.
-maliit turning radius, innova malaki turning radius mas madali mag maneobra.
-nasabi ko na bang maingay yung makina? heheh


ang alam ko sa d4d problems ay yung mga lumabas lang nung 2005, pero sa dami ng innova, hilux at fortuner maliit na percentage na lang yung mga nagkaproblem sa d4d engine dati, I would still recommend the diesel variant mas matipid in the long run plus kelangan mo ng torque pag puno ng pasahero at gamit tapos papasyal sa mataas na lugar.


my vote = everest (its fun to drive + its an SUV)