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  1. Join Date
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    guys i'm new here, balak bumili ni ermat ng saksakyan pang pamilya, para pwede den naman madala sa province ng esmi ko (baler Aurora, mga 3-4 times a yr) medyo rough road ang daan ano kaya ang pwede namen kuning saksakyan? ano ba dapat namen iconsider, wala ako masyado alam sa auto e.

    sana diesel para mura compare sa gasolina at yung matipid, at kung magkaproblema naman yung madaling mahanap ang pyesa.

    at mga magkano kaya kung 3-5 yrs to pay. tia

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    For pieces, the 4JA1 of the Crosswind is the older engine, and would be easier to maintain... but the Innova is a more refined vehicle, with more power and better ride comfort.

    There were early issues with the Innova, like fuel pump issues with the initial batches of low-sulphur diesel, which lacked lubricity and was supposedly to blame for the infamous "D4D Woes", as well as the rear axle recall, but IMHO, it's still a better buy and family vehicle, overall. It handles better, BRAKES better and rides better. The Innova has a beige interior that is easy to stain, but at least the doors won't sag on their hinges like in the Crosswind. The Crosswind is just too low-tech and crude.

    But if you're driving on provincial-bought diesel, which might be dirty, diluted and contaminated, I'd sooner be using the Crosswind's ancient and more robust diesel engine. And the Crosswind has much better cargo space than the Innova, and better ground clearance. If you're looking for a rugged vehicle, it's up there.

    It's up to you to decide which matters more... ruggedness or comfort? If your provincial trips includes simple dirt roads that aren't rocky, the Innova can most likely take it. But if you're driving into unmapped territory and fueling up on watery crude, the Crosswind might be the better choice.
    Last edited by niky; April 9th, 2008 at 06:20 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    I'd vote for the Crosswind -- as long as you go no higher than the XTi variant. Forget the XUV/XUVi trim, unless you intend to bring along your own chiropractor.

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    thx niky

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman View Post
    I'd vote for the Crosswind -- as long as you go no higher than the XTi variant. Forget the XUV/XUVi trim, unless you intend to bring along your own chiropractor.
    whats with the higher model? kinda newbie when it comes to this kind of thing. so wat do you recommend model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wattatoe View Post
    whats with the higher model? kinda newbie when it comes to this kind of thing. so wat do you recommend model?
    The XUV/Sportivo variants are oversized, slow as molasses, deliver a punishing ride and have a relatively higher center of gravity, which isn't a good thing when running the vehicle at speed; it's like they're trying too hard to be SUVs. In this case, bigger isn't necessarily better.

    Since the XL, XT and XTi variants have more 'manageable' sizes, the engines don't have to work as hard. Plus, the XTi offers the Sportivo's features at a lower price. Personally, I'd get an XTi as a family car if the Adventure hadn't existed in the first place.
    Last edited by Bogeyman; April 10th, 2008 at 01:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman View Post
    The XUV/Sportivo variants are oversized, slow as molasses, deliver a punishing ride and have a relatively higher center of gravity, which isn't a good thing when running the vehicle at speed; it's like they're trying too hard to be SUVs. In this case, bigger isn't necessarily better.

    Since the XL, XT and XTi variants have more 'manageable' sizes, the engines don't have to work as hard. Plus, the XTi offers the Sportivo's features at a lower price. Personally, I'd get an XTi as a family car if the Adventure hadn't existed in the first place.
    nakita ko yung price dun sa isang thread, puro MT pala sya noh, wala nmn prob ang manual saken pero ano ba advantage ng manual sa matic and VV.

Innova or Crosswind