97 Audi A4 1.8T or 01 Nissan cefiro elite v6

[odell]

the price of the audi is 550K
FWD, manual,70K km
upgraded turbo with steel braided oil feed line
chip
front mount intercooler,samco intercooler and turbo inlet pipes
downpipe,exhaust,short shifter
eibach spring,bilstein sport shocks
front projector lights

owned by a friend of my friend so i gues no problem at all.



the price of the cefiro is 450K(neg)
changed engine to vq25
all stock
80K km
matic

owned by someone known sa mymitsu


having a dilemma on which i would buy. it would be for my everyday..

suggestions? comments?

[OTEP]

Parang pareho nang kinalikot iyan. Wala bang stock unit?

Ok lang naman ang Audi if you have resources for parts and service.

[Kikkomann]

Yung Cefiro ba eh yung "200HP sleeper"?

Anyways IMO, since na parehong luxury cars ang pinagpipilian mo, I'd go for Audi. Why? I think its more luxurious, safer(?) and mas may dating.

[odell]

otep,
yap. ok naman pagkamodify coz its both from enthusiastswth knowledge
kaya hinde rin ako nag alangan. may nakita ako sa autocamp na audi.. though i dont really trust buy and sell guys eh.. kay gerald jocson pa ata.. matic though not turbo but 01 model... 730K


kikkoman,
yap.. exactly


san ba mga parts ng audi?

inisip ko kasi it will be easier now na may casa na siya

[OTEP]

Why not get a Volvo 850 T-5R?

Around Php500k yata ang unit ngayon. Looks nerdy, but will easily blow the doors of those two. Madami pang piyesa dahil sa HABREC.



Get a station wagon version and you have enough room for a kick *ss audio system:

[odell]

un parang kay wendell ba? sa habrec din namin pinapaservice un volvo940SE namin..

mas malakas engine nun sa 850 T-5R hehehehe

i prefered audi to be different once again.. but not as problematic as my alfa romeo brought to me though its now in tiptop condition though used by my dad now. hehe

i though of the cefiro for being bank for the buck! and ofcourse the engine

[OTEP]

Service ng Audi lang ang duda ako. If you don't have any other alternatives beside casa and the casa does not stock the part, patay ka na. Or if the casa wants to charge you like hell, wala kang alternative.

The new Audi casas are geared towards servicing the cars they sell. Not maintaining old Audis sold during their Auto Prominence years.

Unlike the Nissan (kahit sa Yen Banawe hindi ka mauubusan ng piyesa) or sa Volvo (may Habrec).

[odell]

i know the are other shops din. which i am researching just right now. mga aftermarket din....

and habrec does any euro naman. i see audi's there too

[OTEP]

Kaso Habrec does not specialize in Audis. They don't stock much parts for it (usually consumables). Break something big and you're dead.

And most aftermarket shops cater to modifying, not repairing and maintaining. Of course, if you pay them well enough they will at least try to work on the car.

Alam ko may local Audi club. Maybe they can help you.

[m_ron]

ask your friend if he already change the timing belt on his audi.Might as well do a compression test just to make sure the engine is healthy.I will buy the audi if then engine is in good condition.The common problemt with 1.8t is the timing belt and water pump .The paint of audi is superior. all you have to do is body color the black portion of the bumpers and sides and then have it detailed to bigberts and you'll have a 2001 look.

[odell]

otep,
yap there is. i sourced the info mostly there so i decided to have this as my choice
m_ron,
will do ask. hehe..
where will be the compression test be took?.
it has already projectors on. and i think the black part is too painted.

[m_ron]

I think it's a *must* to do a compression test on the audi since he already upgraded the turbo and ecu.Bring it to a knowledgeable shop that can do a compression test with ofcourse permission from your friend.

[odell]

any shop you can suggest?

[OTEP]

AFAIK, Central Diesel along Quezon Avenue can do compression tests. PM mo si Dieseldude.

[m_ron]

just make sure they don't do a diesel compression test.

[niwde11]

search mo lang. afair, merong nakapost dito na na tel no. nung malapit na shop sa balintawak.

[kyle618]

odell,

ito ba un audi a4 na nasa madrigal st. in Ayala Alabang?? may nakita kami na 1.8T 550k manual tranny rin, black.

id get the A4... gwapo e. plus it ages well compared to the cefiro.

[vinj]

I think it's a *must* to do a compression test on the audi since he already upgraded the turbo and ecu.Bring it to a knowledgeable shop that can do a compression test with ofcourse permission from your friend.

Yup, this can save you a ton in headaches and repairs... most decent shops carry a compression tester (do a dry and wet test); try checking Autotechanika, Speedyfix, etc... Lift up the car as well to do an underchassis inspection as you can find things like leaks and underchassis hits/stresses.

[niky]

*DITTO* on the compression test for the Audi... sad thing that a compression tester is such a simple thing, but so hard to find at the automotive stores here (Have been looking for years, want one for my own garage...)


^cheap... $31 only...

If the guy didn't put too much boost into the Audi (i.e.: if it's around just 180 or so...) and it tests okay, I'd go for that one. More potential, for one, and for another, definitely less headaches registration-wise and set-up wise than a swapped car. (you never know how good the swapped surplus engine is...)

And since you're already used to owning cars with poor dealer support (Volvo? Hehe...), then the wait and search for parts won't be an issue with you, right?

Plus, it's fully set-up already. Less work for you... and more fun to drive...

Make the Cefiro swap a 3.0 MT, though, and I might change my mind...

[slicker_boi]

Ayaw mo ng 3-Series or Accord/Camry na lang? They're certainly better cars than your choices.