Hyundai Grand Starex vs. Toyota Super Grandia

[Silvio_12]

*Gumusut_Amige: Me too, sir. Now that I learned that the Hiace is more fuel efficient, I am now convinced to get one.

*rna800: Yes sir. Haha, I am gonna dress it up, too to make it look even better.

But the question is, which color is better? Haha. Black or White (2-tone)? :p

[rna800]

Sir Silvio_12,

Kung Hiace na ang napili niyo, direct niyo nalang ang questions niyo sa Toyota/Hiace thread para kahit anong questions niyo related on your procurement of the van ay masasagot. Ibang topic nanaman kasi yang color.hehe

[jetrc]

The 2.5 D-4D engine found in the Hiace SG is powerful enough, for an engine with a smaller output on paper compared to others and the added weight of a van, power delivery is surprisingly good. I've seen a lot of Grandias accelerate past me and my T6 on the highway hehehe

[Silvio_12]

It has enough power to do the job yet maximizing your profit with its cheap and low maintenance.

That's the right van for me

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It has enough power to do the job yet maximizing your profit with its cheap and low maintenance.

That's the right van for me

[Gumusut_Amige]

*Gumusut_Amige: Anong gamit nilang SG sa Palawan, sir, fabric or leather? I've ridden in an SG fabric coz that was the service vehicle of our hotel in Boracay.

Leather seats lahat ang nakita ko pag SG kasi kahit yung transport service namin doon ay leather seats din.

[Challenger75]

My company has both the GL Grandia and Grand Starex as service vehicles for guests and field work.

Drivers prefer the Grandia since it can be loaded with more people/cargo and maintenance is very simple. Fuel consumption is great, a big factor since these vans run hundreds of kilometers a day. One van has logged on almost 200k kms with just the normal change oil and filters, no major parts repairs yet.

The Starex on the other hand is comfier, but the maintenance is more complex, some underchassis parts break down easily and had to be replaced a number of times already. It also consumes more fuel.

Economically, the Grandia takes the cake for the company's use. If I were to own one personally, I'd probably get the Grandia too. What I liked about the Starex though is that second row bench where I can lie down in the long trips but that's just me. Hope this helps.

[rollyic]

nasa ilalim pa rin ba ng driver seat ang makina ng SG?
iaangat pa rin ba yung upuan para makita ang makina?

problema lang sa SG nasa ilalim ng upuan ng driver yung makina.
so kung may mga iche check ka sa makina hassle na.
pasok na sa loob yung init at amoy ng singaw makina.
plus yung ang sikip magbutingting. pwede pang madumihan ang loob lalo na mga upuan.

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[jaggerx3]

nasa ilalim pa rin ba ng driver seat ang makina ng SG?
iaangat pa rin ba yung upuan para makita ang makina?

problema lang sa SG nasa ilalim ng upuan ng driver yung makina.
so kung may mga iche check ka sa makina hassle na.
pasok na sa loob yung init at amoy ng singaw makina.
plus yung ang sikip magbutingting. pwede pang madumihan ang loob lalo na mga upuan.

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Nasa ilalim pa rin.

[frostmourn]

Super Grandia pa din. Subok na lakas ng hatak sarap sa akyatan. Mabilis lang starex pero mahina sa akyatan.

[jaggerx3]

Super Grandia pa din. Subok na lakas ng hatak sarap sa akyatan. Mabilis lang starex pero mahina sa akyatan.

Anong starex ba sinasabi mo? Haha
Grand Starex ? Baka naman tci yun. Pero sbhn mo yan sa mga naka VGT. Ibang iba pa rin hatak ng crdi ng Grand Starex.

[rna800]

*rollyic: Nasa ilalim padin ng upuan. It was, it is and I think it will be forever that way.

Talagang hassle siya if you are a DIY type of person kasi challenging ung mag ayos sa ganong position. I recall when I had to look what type of battery my SG has, kailangan ko pang mag consult sa booklet kung paano tignan ang engine bay.hehe But if you are the type of person where you will just bring it to your dealer for service, there's nothing to worry at all.

So far wala pa naman akong nasakyan na Hiace na madungis at madumi ang loob. We have some relatives in our province who have the old Hiace, I don't know what model pero ung mas maliit ang kaha, siguro mga early 2000 model, malinis naman and walang trace na amoy makina ang loob.


*frostmourn: I don't know what made you say na mahina sa akyatan ang Starex pero sa GRX Starex ng relative namin, malakas siya anywhere. Nagko convoy kami noon using my Dmax pickup na DDI engine, hindi niya ako malayuan pero hindi ko siya maunahan kasi nagma max out ang Dmax sa 175 kph. Siguro ung GRX nasa 180 to 185 kph. How much more ung Grand Starex VGT na malayong mas malakas ang specs sa GRX.

Ang Hiace, pag pinatulan ko sa habulan, babaunan ko lang ng gas pedal, mamawala na yan sa rear view mirror ko at hindi yan makakahabol lalo pag sa highway. Well kahit sa uphills. Ilang beses kong ginagawa yan lalo pag kina cut ako ng UV Express Commuter drivers, nakakainit ng dugo so minsan papatulan ko din. Papadaanan ko lang yan effortlessly. Bukod sa nagma max out ang speed niya sa 140 to 145 kph, nakakatakot na siyang patakbuhin at that speed knowing that you are carrying 10 souls with you or more sa iba niyang variants.

[vinj]

Ang Hiace, pag pinatulan ko sa habulan, babaunan ko lang ng gas pedal, mamawala na yan sa rear view mirror ko at hindi yan makakahabol lalo pag sa highway. Well kahit sa uphills. Ilang beses kong ginagawa yan lalo pag kina cut ako ng UV Express Commuter drivers, nakakainit ng dugo so minsan papatulan ko din. Papadaanan ko lang yan effortlessly. Bukod sa nagma max out ang speed niya sa 140 to 145 kph, nakakatakot na siyang patakbuhin at that speed knowing that you are carrying 10 souls with you or more sa iba niyang variants.

Given the overall size and purpose in life of the Hiace, it really should only be good for up to 140-145kph on the open highways (and i only visit this speeds when conditions allow, usually to clear up the carbon build-up on our Grandia). If they put in the VNT engine later on, i'd rather have it tuned for low-end torque and efficiency rather than highway speed.

Servicing is a PITA indeed but it's still much better than the yagbol boiling days of riding shotgun in our old L300 back in the mid eighties and early 90s.

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Ang Hiace, pag pinatulan ko sa habulan, babaunan ko lang ng gas pedal, mamawala na yan sa rear view mirror ko at hindi yan makakahabol lalo pag sa highway. Well kahit sa uphills. Ilang beses kong ginagawa yan lalo pag kina cut ako ng UV Express Commuter drivers, nakakainit ng dugo so minsan papatulan ko din. Papadaanan ko lang yan effortlessly. Bukod sa nagma max out ang speed niya sa 140 to 145 kph, nakakatakot na siyang patakbuhin at that speed knowing that you are carrying 10 souls with you or more sa iba niyang variants.

Given the overall size and purpose in life of the Hiace, it really should only be good for up to 140-145kph on the open highways (and i only visit this speeds when conditions allow, usually to clear up the carbon build-up on our Grandia). If they put in the VNT engine later on, i'd rather have it tuned for low-end torque and efficiency rather than highway speed.

Servicing is a PITA indeed but it's still much better than the yagbol boiling days of riding shotgun in our old L300 back in the mid eighties and early 90s.

[gundam]

M/T yan.
13 passengers going to baguio via kayapa.
No problem.

Pero kung A/T hirap yan.

[philsat]

Pareho naman silang maganda.. Siguro sa use lang sila magkakatalo. Sample mayaman ako at may driver ako i go on strarex. Pero kung ako mag ddrive at pang family e mag grandia na ako..

Pero bilib ako sa engine ng toyota gradia 19 person ang asa loob, umaakyat sa sumulong highway e kayang kaya. Hindi man lang gumapang..

[dct]

Pareho naman silang maganda.. Siguro sa use lang sila magkakatalo. Sample mayaman ako at may driver ako i go on strarex. Pero kung ako mag ddrive at pang family e mag grandia na ako..

Pero bilib ako sa engine ng toyota gradia 19 person ang asa loob, umaakyat sa sumulong highway e kayang kaya. Hindi man lang gumapang..

Baliktad ata. Mas masarap idrive ang starex. Yung hiace kasi truck-like e

[philsat]

Baliktad ata. Mas masarap idrive ang starex. Yung hiace kasi truck-like e

Yes, mas masarap e drive ang starex pero for me service kasi siya ng mayayaman talaga na tipong space at luxury ang binayaran nila.. Tipong isang tao lang laging pasahero at driver.

Grandia kasi e parang binili mo siya para sakyan ng maraming tao or buong family..

[jaggerx3]

Yes, mas masarap e drive ang starex pero for me service kasi siya ng mayayaman talaga na tipong space at luxury ang binayaran nila.. Tipong isang tao lang laging pasahero at driver.

Grandia kasi e parang binili mo siya para sakyan ng maraming tao or buong family..

Mas masarap i drive starex kahit ikaw mismo may ari. Proven and tested ko na yan compared sa commuter ko. Never tried grandia. Pero i'll choose my Grand Starex anyday lalo pag kasama family.

[philsat]

Mas masarap i drive starex kahit ikaw mismo may ari. Proven and tested ko na yan compared sa commuter ko. Never tried grandia. Pero i'll choose my Grand Starex anyday lalo pag kasama family.

Ito naman po ay tingin ko lang naman.. Parang pag starex, driver at 1 passenger lang ang sakay. Pag grandia e parang pang family talaga na tipong 4 kids laging kasama..

[Walter]

Hiace Commuter and Super Grandia do not have the same suspensions.

[philsat]

For me pag family gradian. Pag pang exucutive e starex.. Hehe