Honda Civic RS Modulo vs. Mazda 3 Speed vs. Everest Trend

[Egan101]

It's the other way around.

I think you're a little confused. 2k lbs is only 1 ton.
CIVIC RS 0-100 takes 11secs. In PH.

A Car that can't beat a pickup is TOO SLOW...

Where did you get those figures for the 0-100kmh sprint of the Civic RS? Most would say the Civic RS Turbo is good for just over 7 seconds while the 1.8L model is around 10 seconds.

By the way, 1 metric ton is 2200+ lbs. Also, the F150 SVT Lightning is not your ordinary Asian pickup or PPV.

[desertst0rm]

Where did you get those figures for the 0-100kmh sprint of the Civic RS? Most would say the Civic RS Turbo is good for just over 7 seconds while the 1.8L model is around 10 seconds.

Baka naman sa Dyanmometer yan?

2.0 Civic 5A/T Paddle Shift (NOT CVT) is around 11secs. Honda keeps making false claim on their CVT transmission. They said the Clutch type CVT on Jazz is faster than manual because there is no Torque Converter that slips. Then the put a Torque Converter on the Earth Dreams Technology CVT and still claims the same thing.

We went to the dealership and do an actual test. Sinamahan ko lang cousin ko. Siya kasi yung bibili. Sinabi ko na wag muna niya close deal hanggat di nasuusubukan na kaya talaga ng 7secs. Mathematically Impossible dahil napakainit ng ambient temp tapos CVT pa. NAPAKABAGAL ng CVT.. Halos mag overheat na Tranny naka CVTF heater kasi instead of cooler. Saka palagi naman over exaggerated avertised 0-100kph lalo na yung fuel efficiency. Kung 15km/l yung average fuel consumption di dapat lampas pa sa 800km dapat range.

DOE ECO RUN 27.56km/l daw
Honda Cars Philippines' Official Website

Honda City 30km/l on NSLEX???
Honda Cars Philippines' Official Website

Honda Civic 2016 1.5 Turbo 0 to 100 * 31 degrees ambient temp - YouTube

[jut703]

Baka naman sa Dyanmometer yan?

2.0 Civic 5A/T Paddle Shift (NOT CVT) is around 11secs. Honda keeps making false claim on their CVT transmission. They said the Clutch type CVT on Jazz is faster than manual because there is no Torque Converter that slips. Then the put a Torque Converter on the Earth Dreams Technology CVT and still claims the same thing.

We went to the dealership and do an actual test. Sinamahan ko lang cousin ko. Siya kasi yung bibili. Sinabi ko na wag muna niya close deal hanggat di nasuusubukan na kaya talaga ng 7secs. Mathematically Impossible dahil napakainit ng ambient temp tapos CVT pa. NAPAKABAGAL ng CVT.. Halos mag overheat na Tranny naka CVTF heater kasi instead of cooler. Saka palagi naman over exaggerated avertised 0-100kph lalo na yung fuel efficiency. Kung 15km/l yung average fuel consumption di dapat lampas pa sa 800km dapat range.

DOE ECO RUN 27.56km/l daw
Honda Cars Philippines' Official Website

Honda City 30km/l on NSLEX???
Honda Cars Philippines' Official Website

Honda Civic 2016 1.5 Turbo 0 to 100 * 31 degrees ambient temp - YouTube

Dami mo na naman pinagsasabi, eh lahat nga ng tests both local and abroad using GPS instrumentation, nasa 7+ seconds lang talaga 0-100 ng RS.

Mas magaling ka pa sa kanilang lahat? 😂

Konti nalang ibaban na kita kasi paulit-ulit na mali-mali pinagsasabi mo. Pinagpipilitan mo pa. Hanap ka nalang ibang forum na may maniniwala sayo. 😊

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[vinj]

The Civic, when I drove it, did 100 km/h in 7.6 seconds. With the AC on and an engine that was heat-soaked. On the drag strip with proper prep, I don't doubt it can do closer to 7 flat.

None of the pick-ups on the local market can get to 100 km/h that fast. Most diesel pickups do 100 km/h in 11-13 seconds. Only the Chevy comes close, at under 10 seconds to 100.

We went to the dealership and do an actual test. Sinamahan ko lang cousin ko. Siya kasi yung bibili. Sinabi ko na wag muna niya close deal hanggat di nasuusubukan na kaya talaga ng 7secs. Mathematically Impossible dahil napakainit ng ambient temp tapos CVT pa. NAPAKABAGAL ng CVT.. Halos mag overheat na Tranny naka CVTF heater kasi instead of cooler. Saka palagi naman over exaggerated avertised 0-100kph lalo na yung fuel efficiency. Kung 15km/l yung average fuel consumption di dapat lampas pa sa 800km dapat range.

My two cents: Since i have not driven a Civic RS, (nor is acceleration times the sole factor i place in vehicle evaluation), I will put my money on the man who repeatedly test drives cars in local conditions with proper instrumentation for a living, versus someone's dealer test drive with his cousin.

[Janemar]

Baka naman sa Dyanmometer yan?

2.0 Civic 5A/T Paddle Shift (NOT CVT) is around 11secs. Honda keeps making false claim on their CVT transmission. They said the Clutch type CVT on Jazz is faster than manual because there is no Torque Converter that slips. Then the put a Torque Converter on the Earth Dreams Technology CVT and still claims the same thing.

We went to the dealership and do an actual test. Sinamahan ko lang cousin ko. Siya kasi yung bibili. Sinabi ko na wag muna niya close deal hanggat di nasuusubukan na kaya talaga ng 7secs. Mathematically Impossible dahil napakainit ng ambient temp tapos CVT pa. NAPAKABAGAL ng CVT.. Halos mag overheat na Tranny naka CVTF heater kasi instead of cooler. Saka palagi naman over exaggerated avertised 0-100kph lalo na yung fuel efficiency. Kung 15km/l yung average fuel consumption di dapat lampas pa sa 800km dapat range.

DOE ECO RUN 27.56km/l daw
Honda Cars Philippines' Official Website

Honda City 30km/l on NSLEX???
Honda Cars Philippines' Official Website

Honda Civic 2016 1.5 Turbo 0 to 100 * 31 degrees ambient temp - YouTube

Sir, ung sa video link nag start mag accel si civic around 3ish second mark sakto at 11sec. Sa video na reach na nya 100kph so nasa 7ish sec nga po 0-100kph nya. Hehe..

Obd2 torque app super inaccurate as you would suggest.

For your info, bone stock b16b and b18c type r engines na dyno namin at 160whp using dynapack. Gt86/brz, 160whp rin. Miata nasa 120whp. New civic 1.5T nasa 170whp..

Give or take 3 - 5whp na lang...

[jut703]

It's the other way around.

I think you're a little confused. 2k lbs is only 1 ton.
CIVIC RS 0-100 takes 11secs. In PH.

A Car that can't beat a pickup is TOO SLOW...

F150 SVT Lighting
Curb weight 4670 lbs. / 2.3ton
Cart Iron Engine Block
Hydraulic Power Steering
4speed A/T
Multi-port Seaquential Fuel Injection

As usual, what the hell are you talking about?

The Civic weighs 1300 kg, has 173 hp, and gets to 100 kph in 7ish seconds. Top speed is over 200 kph.

Most PPVs weigh around 2000 kg, have 150-180 hp, and get to 100 kph in 10-12 seconds. Most top out at around 170-180 kph.

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[niky]

It's the other way around.

I think you're a little confused. 2k lbs is only 1 ton.
CIVIC RS 0-100 takes 11secs. In PH.

A Car that can't beat a pickup is TOO SLOW...

F150 SVT Lighting
Curb weight 4670 lbs. / 2.3ton
Cart Iron Engine Block
Hydraulic Power Steering
4speed A/T
Multi-port Seaquential Fuel Injection

The Civic, when I drove it, did 100 km/h in 7.6 seconds. With the AC on and an engine that was heat-soaked. On the drag strip with proper prep, I don't doubt it can do closer to 7 flat.

None of the pick-ups on the local market can get to 100 km/h that fast. Most diesel pickups do 100 km/h in 11-13 seconds. Only the Chevy comes close, at under 10 seconds to 100.

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Also, the SVT Lightning was:

1. Limited edition

2. Couldn't be used for cargo hauling because the SVT variant had less load capacity than a regular F150.

3. Faster than most sports cars, anyway, so it's not a valid comparison.

4. Never officially sold here.

and

5. Expensive. You'd have to have paid around P3m to import one brand new, back in the day... that kind of money could buy you three Civics.

[jut703]

The Civic, when I drove it, did 100 km/h in 7.6 seconds. With the AC on and an engine that was heat-soaked. On the drag strip with proper prep, I don't doubt it can do closer to 7 flat.

None of the pick-ups on the local market can get to 100 km/h that fast. Most diesel pickups do 100 km/h in 11-13 seconds. Only the Chevy comes close, at under 10 seconds to 100.

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Also, the SVT Lightning was:

1. Limited edition

2. Couldn't be used for cargo hauling because the SVT variant had less load capacity than a regular F150.

3. Faster than most sports cars, anyway, so it's not a valid comparison.

4. Never officially sold here.

and

5. Expensive. You'd have to have paid around P3m to import one brand new, back in the day... that kind of money could buy you three Civics.

Niky could you share the vbox 0-100 figures for the Civic 1.8E and the current crop of PPVs?

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[StockEngine]

with a few mods "maybe" the everest can out accelerate them both. even with the weight penalty 😁

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[desertst0rm]

with a few mods "maybe" the everest can out accelerate them both. even with the weight penalty ��

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Mas madali imod Ranger kesa Everest. Gayanin mo lang yung exhaust ng F150 Lightning. RWD pa ranger. Everest and Ranger can out accelerate them both kahit pa stock kung naka ON AC. Mahina kasi Low End Torque ng OHC engine. 40-30% ng engine power yung nawawala pag naka ON AC. Pag Diesel engine at OHV petrol same lang halos yung acceleration kahit pa naka ON AC.

[niky]

Mas madali imod Ranger kesa Everest.

In terms of power, nope. They're exactly the same.

Gayanin mo lang yung exhaust ng F150 Lightning.

Nope. The exhaust set-up for a supercharged gasoline V8 is wildly different from what is optimum for a turbocharged five-cylinder diesel.

RWD pa ranger.

The only engine available in rear-wheel drive for the Ranger is the 2.2. If you want big power, you're stuck with an expensive and heavy 4x4 variant.

Everest and Ranger can out accelerate them both kahit pa stock kung naka ON AC.

Nope. We've already discussed this. Stop trolling.

Mahina kasi Low End Torque ng OHC engine.

Nope. The number of camshafts has nothing to do with low end torque.

40-30% ng engine power yung nawawala pag naka ON AC.

Nope. The AC represents a parasitic drain of about 5-10 hp.

Pag Diesel engine at OHV petrol same lang halos yung acceleration kahit pa naka ON AC.

Nope. The AC *still* represents a parasitic drain of about 5-10 hp. Whatever engine you're using.

Just explaining how the brain detects acceleration para makapili ng maayos sa 3.

If you want to discuss the vestibular sense and the sensation of acceleration, start another thread.

As it is, you're simply cluttering this thread with wild misinformation.

[rna800]

Everest and Ranger can out accelerate them both kahit pa stock kung naka ON AC.

Drive the RS Turbo first before saying this. Even with aircon in full blast, 4 people (driver included) on board, and ECO on, they cannot out accelerate it.

Maybe if it's on a provincial road where you do a lot of overtakes and the other driver is aggressive, you can outrun the RS. But once the road opens up or once you get to the expressway, I don't think that they will stand a chance.

I've had runs with PPV's, pick ups, Innovas and even those vans (Hiace & NV350) on my last trip up north, they overtook me so fast on the provincial road but I passed all of them very easily in the expressway especially those Hiace and NV350 vans.haha

[jut703]

Mas madali imod Ranger kesa Everest. Gayanin mo lang yung exhaust ng F150 Lightning. RWD pa ranger. Everest and Ranger can out accelerate them both kahit pa stock kung naka ON AC. Mahina kasi Low End Torque ng OHC engine. 40-30% ng engine power yung nawawala pag naka ON AC. Pag Diesel engine at OHV petrol same lang halos yung acceleration kahit pa naka ON AC.

Moderator's Note: desertst0rm has been banned for repeatedly derailing threads with misinformation.

All the inaccurate claims he's been posting in different threads can lead to confusion for other forumers who might believe the erroneous things he says.



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[EQAddict]

I drove the rs turbo before. I posted my thoughts somewhere here in this forum.

This would be my choice. Its fast, got lots of tech, looks great and has that real nice torquey engine.

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[glenn manikis]

Test drive all vehicles... you wont go wrong naman kahit ano sa 4 ang mapipile mo..

Pero my choice would be the Everest.. drives and performs like a car... much safer ka in case of collissions... suitable sa phils. Road bec. Of higher ground clearance and floodfording capacity... and you have seven seats... and its also efficient coz its a diesel...

Test drive and follow your heart..

[StockEngine]

naka highlight pa ang "ac on"

hahaha wtf er...

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[kevinworld]

Go for a SUV, raining months are coming. You won't regret it.

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[Egan101]

If ride height/ground clearance is a concern yet you want something quick and fast, I guess the best choice would be the Forester XT.

[jut703]

Matagal nang nakabili ng Civic yung TS. 😉

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[Egan101]

Matagal nang nakabili ng Civic yung TS. 😉

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Maybe we can close the thread and move on.