Help me on deciding my 1st car ever!

[yebo]

^ FC, torque and hp for the diesel. if you are fully loaded with 5 passengers and luggage going up tagaytay or baguio then you will appreciate that 260 N-m torque at 1800-2500 rpm as againts the city's 1.3 engine's 114 N-m torque at 4500 rpm. pero kung sanay ka naman sa anemic, gutless honda engines e siguro ok lang sa iyo na gumagapang paakyat na naka-4000 rpm ang makina. wala nga yata ako nakikitang honda na umaakyat ng baguio na sa kennon ang daan.

medyo malambot lang ang rear suspension ng accent, but you can remedy that by installing those rubber spring inserts (cost P800/set of 2?).

[brainmafia_310]

^ FC, torque and hp for the diesel. if you are fully loaded with 5 passengers and luggage going up tagaytay or baguio then you will appreciate that 260 N-m torque at 1800-2500 rpm as againts the city's 1.3 engine's 114 N-m torque at 4500 rpm. pero kung sanay ka naman sa anemic, gutless honda engines e siguro ok lang sa iyo na gumagapang paakyat na naka-4000 rpm ang makina. wala nga yata ako nakikitang honda na umaakyat ng baguio na sa kennon ang daan.

medyo malambot lang ang rear suspension ng accent, but you can remedy that by installing those rubber spring inserts (cost P800/set of 2?).

boss sorry to disagree, dami ako nakikita kia picanto, hyundai eon, and other small engine cars na umaakyat ng baguio. i have a vios 1.3 lang sya pero di naman ako binitin sa tagaytay, i think tamang driving habit at ika nga nila "know your car well".

honda city and accent are both good cars, IMHO.

[yebo]

boss sorry to disagree, dami ako nakikita kia picanto, hyundai eon, and other small engine cars na umaakyat ng baguio. i have a vios 1.3 lang sya pero di naman ako binitin sa tagaytay, i think tamang driving habit at ika nga nila "know your car well".

vios naman pala sa iyo e hindi honda. iba po ang makina ng toyota sa honda. honda engines are high revving, develops peak torque at very high rpm. toyota engines have peak torque at low to medium rpms, thereby delivering better climbing ability and better city traffic experience.

sabi mo nga know your car well. but you don't know the honda city do you? i have driven 2 hondas (test drove the city and civic) and in both cases i found the engines anemic and torque-less. mas malakas pa hatak ng old 1.3 liter mazda 323 ko nuon kesa sa 1.8 liter honda civic e.

here's the latest comparo between vios and city from topgear >>>

Sedan options: Honda City vs Toyota Vios - Wrong Car/Right Car Online

[brainmafia_310]

vios naman pala sa iyo e hindi honda. iba po ang makina ng toyota sa honda. honda engines are high revving, develops peak torque at very high rpm. toyota engines have peak torque at low to medium rpms, thereby delivering better climbing ability and better city traffic experience.

sabi mo nga know your car well. but you don't know the honda city do you? i have driven 2 hondas (test drove the city and civic) and in both cases i found the engines anemic and torque-less. mas malakas pa hatak ng old 1.3 liter mazda 323 ko nuon kesa sa 1.8 liter honda civic e.

here's the latest comparo between vios and city from topgear >>>

Sedan options: Honda City vs Toyota Vios - Wrong Car/Right Car Online

Ahh ganon ba idol, eh napakaexage naman ng case mo eh na wala kang nakikitang honda city na umakaakyat ng baguio eh ako nga nakakakita ng cd5, eon and etc. Na mas maliit engine sa city na madalas umakyat ng baguio. So sa tingin ko hindi paper detail ang sagot sa disagreement ko sayo, pakicorrect na alng na honda city has enough torque at high rpm. Madami ka palang honda na sasakyan dagdagan mo pa.

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[Type_Z]

Hi Tsikot owners.

Criteria that I'm considering: (most to least)
1.FC = Accent
2.Exterior design = Depends on your taste
3.Interior design/finishes = City
4.Resale value = If may plano plano kayo sir na ikeep ung oto for about 10 years, tingin ko Honda may lamang. Pero kung mga 5 years lang halos parehas lang.

Honda City 1.3 user ako sir, so far wala naman problema ung auto. FC ko naglalaro sa 12-13KM per liter (City driving) 16-17KM per liter (Highway drving). Ung cabin space at trunk space talagang malaki if icocompare niyo to other subcompact sa market. Dinala namin sa Baguio 5 pax then puno ung trunk(as in puno) hindi naman bitin ung hatak sa Kennon Rd. as long na may bwelo.

Between Honda City/Hyundai Accent, kung plano niyo i keep ung auto for 8-10 years, Honda City nalang, mas mura maintenance and parts ng gasoline engine if icocompare niyo sa diesel engine, un nga lang mas mura naman ang diesel ng 10 pesos per liter. If plan niyo naman i keep ung auto for about 5 years Hyundai Accent na sir

[archinox]

Honda City 1.3 user ako sir, so far wala naman problema ung auto. FC ko naglalaro sa 12-13KM per liter (City driving) 16-17KM per liter (Highway drving). Ung cabin space at trunk space talagang malaki if icocompare niyo to other subcompact sa market. Dinala namin sa Baguio 5 pax then puno ung trunk(as in puno) hindi naman bitin ung hatak sa Kennon Rd. as long na may bwelo.

Between Honda City/Hyundai Accent, kung plano niyo i keep ung auto for 8-10 years, Honda City nalang, mas mura maintenance and parts ng gasoline engine if icocompare niyo sa diesel engine, un nga lang mas mura naman ang diesel ng 10 pesos per liter. If plan niyo naman i keep ung auto for about 5 years Hyundai Accent na sir

Hi Sir, so you think overall ung Honda City 1.3S hindi naman bitin sa hatak? I've read some forum saying na nakukulangan daw pag nag oovertake?
Thanks ulit Sir.

[Type_Z]

Hi Sir, so you think overall ung Honda City 1.3S hindi naman bitin sa hatak? I've read some forum saying na nakukulangan daw pag nag oovertake?
Thanks ulit Sir.

For me, di naman ako nabibitin kapag magooovertake.Di naman din ako speed maniac kaya siguro di ko napapansin sir ung sinasabi na bitin ung hatak. (BTW manual tranny pala ung City ko) Pero kung icocompare mo siya sa Accent CRDi, lamang po talaga Accent since CRDi makina nun. Un kasi advantage ng diesel engine.

Eto pala sir, review ni sir Niky sa Honda City.

Review: Honda City 1.5 EL AT - Drives

[viper888]

My dad was lent a City 1.3 AT for a week
lets just say he was completely underwhelmed by its performance in the highway (the fastest they got it was 140 ish.... downhill in actex)
I tried it myself, it wasnt so bad... But if you are used to powerful suvs or bigger engined sedans, you will be disappointed

But forget what i just said, its your first car, reliability and safety are paramount
If you decide to bring it to Tagaytay, just don't overtake much, you will probably not lose more than 20 minutes on the trip

[jut703]

My dad was lent a City 1.3 AT for a week
lets just say he was completely underwhelmed by its performance in the highway (the fastest they got it was 140 ish.... downhill in actex)
I tried it myself, it wasnt so bad... But if you are used to powerful suvs or bigger engined sedans, you will be disappointed

But forget what i just said, its your first car, reliability and safety are paramount
If you decide to bring it to Tagaytay, just don't overtake much, you will probably not lose more than 20 minutes on the trip

Nasa driver naman yan. I've taken the City 1.3S to 140 on fairly short stretch of C5 so pushing for about 180 on SLEX/SCTEX is definitely possible.

[viper888]

Nasa driver naman yan. I've taken the City 1.3S to 140 on fairly short stretch of C5 so pushing for about 180 on SLEX/SCTEX is definitely possible.

The car was a 2009, it was a company fleet car so it may have not been well taken care of, and that was driven in a fairly busy highway so gaps arent big
In two lane highways we tend to slow down when passing, you never know when they might change lane, actex only has 2 lanes
small 1.3 cars tend to struggle above 150,

to OP
everything I said is irrelevant, the city ir a vios are very good cars in all guises

[Djerms]

Thinking reliability and durability you will never go wrong with honda. Had some durability issues with new hyundai ownership. They are getting there yesbit not quite at par with the japs.

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[archinox]

Thank you mga Sir sa lahat ng sinabi nyo.
Although lalo ako naguluhan kung ano tlga ang pipiliin ko, at least may idea nko kung ano pro's n con's ng bawat auto. By the way I'm a new driver lang din kase. Do you think I start with low torque cars e.g Honda City 1.3S para iwas sa temptation ng pagiging speed devil?

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para sakin, city is my pick. crdi engine is great but having an experience with a starex crdi... When the crdi broke down, it would cost an arm and a leg.

[rac98]

its still a diesel, kahit anong gawin mag-ígaganyan at mag gaganyan padin naman ang tunog nun,
wala na tayo magagawa dun. tunog lang yun eh, masyado ka affected boss.

Ah talaga? May crdi ka bang ride? Kasi hindi naman ganyan tunog ng amin. Yung old school na patrol ko oo pero yung crdi hindi naman...

At tsaka yung truck namin n 8m21 ang makina di nman ganun.. bat kaya?

[7138]

Ah talaga? May crdi ka bang ride? Kasi hindi naman ganyan tunog ng amin. Yung old school na patrol ko oo pero yung crdi hindi naman...

At tsaka yung truck namin n 8m21 ang makina di nman ganun.. bat kaya?

Nope, i dont have any, but few of my close friend does, and kahit crdi, they make that sound, distinct nga sya, kung itatabi ko sa gas powered car, halata mong ganun yung sound. Thats it! Wala ka dapat ireact. Im just stating what i observe.

[ax30g]

Almera nalang for a change

[TopEngine]

meron mga thread dito comparing 2 other sedans, nabanggit tungkol ang "noise insulation" between the 2, kalokohan na ba yun?

Kung sa Pick-up or trucks sa akin ok lang yang matunog na ganyan, kaso sa sedan eh

[Syuryuken]

meron mga thread dito comparing 2 other sedans, nabanggit tungkol ang "noise insulation" between the 2, kalokohan na ba yun?

Kung sa Pick-up or trucks sa akin ok lang yang matunog na ganyan, kaso sa sedan eh

Nasubukan mo na ba ang CRDI ng Korean vehicles? kung hindi pa then just shut up.

[jut703]

Kung bibili kayo kotse wag niyo isipin presyo, happiness ang importante kaya bili na tayo lahat ng Ferrari.

I used to be one of those pundits who thought "to hell with resale value". But when you look at the net total cash spent on the car, a car with a higher resale value can offset its higher sticker price in the long run.

Say, you get a 700k sedan that you can sell for 300k after 5 years. Then theres this other car that you can buy for 800k but will be able to sell for 500k after 5 years. Not counting the time value of money and other factors (maintenance, fc), your net cash outlay would be "lower" with the more expensive car.

[xander1925]

No harm done bro. I know we have our own opinions and I respect that.. Anyways, maybe aabangan ko na lang kung magiging ganun talaga tunog ng accent ko in the long run..

Bro pag nakuha mo na accent mo.. Siguradong mapapangiti ka habang dinadrive mo... Just enjoy your new car.. And welcome to the club brader...