Grand Starex TCI (M) or Toyota Innova G (M)

[moxymox]

Hi ask lang po ng opinion sa mga experts...

We are planning to buy a family van, 7 seater. 1.2m budget. eto na lang po yung choices ko Starex TCI or Innova G both manual transmission po.

Questions:
1. ano po mas malakas hatak sa dalawa? baguio trips or parking sa mall like Shangrila or MOA parking.
2. medyo madali maintenance?
3. mas matipid sa diesel?
4. mas mura PMS or maintenance?

any other inputs are welcome.

thank you.

[dct]

hatak= starex. kahit akyatan
maintenance = innova
FC = innova (mas matipid starex kung CRDi kaysa TCI)

[niky]

The one maintenance advantage I can see for the Starex is the TCI engine doesn't use high pressure injectors, and the fuel system won't be as vulnerable to bad diesel as the D4D or the Starex CRDi.

The Innova is the cheaper to own and maintain, but no way in heck can it match the comfort and spaciousness of the Starex. Completely different vehicle class. The Starex is a competitor for the HiAce, not the Innova.

[moxymox]

The one maintenance advantage I can see for the Starex is the TCI engine doesn't use high pressure injectors, and the fuel system won't be as vulnerable to bad diesel as the D4D or the Starex CRDi.

The Innova is the cheaper to own and maintain, but no way in heck can it match the comfort and spaciousness of the Starex. Completely different vehicle class. The Starex is a competitor for the HiAce, not the Innova.

Thanks sir Niky. Erase na kasi sa list ko yung HiAce Grandia kasi meron na yung 2 uncles ko. ayoko naman 3 kami same van hehe and parang 1.5m yata price tag ng Grandia. ayoko naman ng commuter. kaya kahit different class yung Innova and Starex eh yun na lang choices ko.

[CVT]

Thanks sir Niky. Erase na kasi sa list ko yung HiAce Grandia kasi meron na yung 2 uncles ko. ayoko naman 3 kami same van hehe and parang 1.5m yata price tag ng Grandia. ayoko naman ng commuter. kaya kahit different class yung Innova and Starex eh yun na lang choices ko.

Grand Starex - mahirap sa parking(mahirap ring lumabas ng front seats in a tight parking situation)- namimili rin ng covered parking dahil sa tangkad, maluwag sa loob, matangkad sa kalye, a looker dahil malaking sasakyan, mas less ang body roll compared to the Innova kaya matatag sa mga high speed turns (like doing >100KPH in a curve)...
Innova - matipid sa diesel, madaling i-park, parang kotse lang ang footprint, I would imagine na mas malakas ang hatak nito compared the GS TCi, dahil nga CRDi ito at mas magaang ang body

Case in point, our TCi AT GS did 9Km/L(so a bit better kung M/T) while my brother-in-law's Innova Diesel M/T did 15Km/L on a 250Km stretch, from Metro Manila going up to Baguio

Features - halos pareho lang...Ooppps, may foglamps at remote (central) lock/alarm/speed sensing lock ang Innova G, - wala nito ang GS TCi M/T.
Maintenance,- halos pareho din lang, I would imagine for the first 5 years+, huwag lang may parts failure....

BTW, I own and drive a GS TCi A/T and an Innova V Gas A/T,- so the level of comparison.

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[niky]

While the Starex does have its issues... some kalampag and cheap plastic trim (which is an issue the Innova also suffers from naman), it's a pretty good van, very comfy and spacious. Rides a bit stiff, but nowhere near as badly as the Innova or HiAce, and it's not too difficult to drive.

[moxymox]

mga sirs is it correct that D4D has timing belt while VVTi is timing chain?

[userfriendly]

FC - Innova wins hands down. Sobra tipid sa diesel. A friend who owns a Starex TCI said he only gets 5 to 6 km/l city driving. My Innova gets roughly 8 km/l city. Note that its mostly extremly heavy traffic and short distance trips. School traffic.

So far the only issue I heard about the starex is it eats brake pads and rotors.

Innova d4d uses timing belt. It has a timing belt light on the dashboard