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    These days if you had 1.3M, which would you rather buy? A gas powered 4x2 CRV (1.3M) or a diesel powered 4x2 Tucson (1.1M)? Why?

    I think getting a CRV or a Tucson is a battle for not just performance but prestige and perception. So whats your perception on each of them?

    After some pondering I chose the Tucson just last month. And is was a REALLY close fight. The fight was so close that even after I bought the Tucson I had second thoughts about it and even thought of selling it to buy a Montero Sport or CRV. I wanted an SUV in the but wanted prestige as well.

    I own a Civic 06 and know that the CRV has the same engine as my Civic. The CRV is really refined. I also see it as more prestigious, maybe because of the Honda brand. But I still don't like how it looks externally.

    I prefer the exterior of the Tucson. The interior is really simple and clean but very spacious. Has better head clearance than the CRV. Surprisingly, its a very good ride and has more personality into it compared to the CRV and Civic.

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    A road less traveled

    vs.

    A family trendsetter


    Here

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    Since nabili mo na yung Tucson might as well stick with it. I don't find the CR-V as more prestigious per se. Dami na ring may CR-V. Pero I think ang alas talaga ng Tucson is the CRDi engine. Mas matipid, mas malakas ang hatak, at mas mura ang fuel.

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    Gas engine

    vs.

    Diesel engine


    CRV pa rin. ayaw ko ng maingay at madumi. Peace of mind eka nga.

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    ^^Halatang di pa nakasubok ng CRDi engine. Maybe yung diesel na luma oo maingay at mausok pero mga common rail di na maingay, mas malakas pa sa gas engine, mas matulin pa and most importantly mas matipid.

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    These days if you had 1.3M, which would you rather buy? A gas powered 4x2 CRV (1.3M) or a diesel powered 4x2 Tucson (1.1M)? Why?
    Well if its my money, for Php 1.3M, I'd easily get a Subaru Forester 2.0X. Not only did it trounce its competition, but its the most bang for the buck. It comes with the sunroof + side and curtain airbags in addition to the dual fronts.


    I think getting a CRV or a Tucson is a battle for not just performance but prestige and perception. So whats your perception on each of them?

    After some pondering I chose the Tucson just last month. And is was a REALLY close fight. The fight was so close that even after I bought the Tucson I had second thoughts about it and even thought of selling it to buy a Montero Sport or CRV. I wanted an SUV in the but wanted prestige as well.
    Again, if its me, I buy vehicles more for their performance, price point, bang for buck, rather than prestige outright. Both CRV and Tucson are competent. I feel the CRV has a better design (interior and exterior) as well as better fit and finish than the Tucson. I think Hyundai has changed the interior color scheme of the Tucson starting last year. But the ones that came out in 2005 to 2007, had beige colors inside, and it did look very plasticky (read: OROCAN) inside.

    I own a Civic 06 and know that the CRV has the same engine as my Civic. The CRV is really refined. I also see it as more prestigious, maybe because of the Honda brand. But I still don't like how it looks externally.
    Technically, the Civic and CRV do have engines that come from the same families, but with differing displacements across both vehicles. For example the engine of the 1.8 Civic comes from the R-series which the 2.0 li in the CRV 4x2 is also derived from the series.

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    ang problem lang naman sa CRDi engine ay yung parts pag nasira.. sobrang mahal. pero kung design ang titingnan, CR-V na ako..

    i have one

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    *Starex Gold

    Oks lang naman po kasi the Tucson is covered by a FIVE YEAR WARRANTY. ANd given the TS impulsive tendencies as demonstrated on the other thread ewan ko lang if he will hold his Tucson beyond 5 years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    *Starex Gold

    Oks lang naman po kasi the Tucson is covered by a FIVE YEAR WARRANTY. ANd given the TS impulsive tendencies as demonstrated on the other thread ewan ko lang if he will hold his Tucson beyond 5 years...
    I don`t think so..... I hope he does.

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    *Tidus1203

    I'm comparing po un CRV gas vs. Tucson Diesel, hindi po un diesel e vs. diesel crdi

    fyi:

    Tucson = Maximum Output (bhp * rpm) 112 * 4000

    CRV = Maximum Output (bhp * rpm) 150 * 4200

    Mabilis po siguro yun crv kesa sa tucson

    Peace

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    Sa HP lamang nga gas pero Torque which is more important especially in acceleration lamang ang CRDi. Maganda pa is ang lakas na ng torque even at 2000RPM and yung gas walang accelration at 2000RPM kailangan lagpas 3000RPM pa bago lumabas yung power. Revving higher means burning more fuel...

    Well as for comparison, I will give it to you na mas maingay pa rin ng konti ang CRDi kaysa gas pero di na rin malaki ang difference ingay-wise. Sa usok naman wala na din, parang gas na din.
    Last edited by tidus1203; April 6th, 2009 at 09:45 PM.

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    For me, I'd pick the tucson.

    1st reason: It's diesel, what could you ask for. A CRDI engine is not like the old engines that blows black smoke and slow.

    Common Rail Direct Injection -- makes the diesel engine run like a gasoline-powered one.
    2nd reason: The tucson is cheaper than the CRV.

    3rd reason: Like what the TS mentioned, the interior of the Hyundai Tucson is spacious. And it has a better clearance than the CRV.

    4th reason: There are plenty of CRV's in the road ( well not as plenty as fortuners ). Well, let's say the Tucson is just......rare.

    Since the TS mentioned prices, I can't compare the 900k+ Tucson to the lowest crv in their line-up.


    Well, for me Tucson wins my hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    Sa HP lamang nga gas pero Torque which is more important especially in acceleration lamang ang CRDi. Maganda pa is ang lakas na ng torque even at 2000RPM and yung gas walang accelration at 2000RPM kailangan lagpas 3000RPM pa bago lumabas yung power. Revving higher means burning more fuel...

    Well as for comparison, I will give it to you na mas maingay pa rin ng konti ang CRDi kaysa gas pero di na rin malaki ang difference ingay-wise. Sa usok naman wala na din, parang gas na din.
    About the ingay thing. Very minimal na lang yan, di mo na rin yan mapapansin esp. when your radio is on. Yup sir tidus has a point, and CRDI is 2000 rpm lalabas na power unlike in gasoline powered vehicles, 3000rpm + before lumabas ang power. Tipid talaga ang Tucson because it is a diesel powered vehicle. Nowadays we need to be wise.....financially-wise.

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    Ang pinakamatarik na daan sa luzon ay bitukang manok sa quezon at kenon rd sa baguio city. so far po very smooth ang akyat ng crv with 5 adults and baggages.

    crv - Maximum Torque (Nm * rpm) 197 * 4200

    tsaka pogi po un crv 21st century ang itsura. less maintenance cost ang gas . fuel cost naman po mahal lang ng Php 9.50 un gas.

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    Tucson CRDi torque = 245.12Nm at 1800RPM

    I think the RPM is the magic number. At just 1800 RPM you get 245.12 Newton meters of torque.

    Well Pinoys love diesel, and I guess for a good reason being a poor country. The P9.50 is not a LANG. If added over time it becomes big. Also take note diesel has superior KM/L figures than comparable gas engines with the same displacement.

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    me i drive Hyundai Sta Fe CRDi main + Honda CRV 1st gen alternate

    from the two choices above: Honda CRV ako. why? it's more prestigious

    2 it's cheaper in PMS. last PMS ko this april ng first gen ko sa casa is 5.9K lang, PMS before was July 2008 pa. yes 9 months ko hindi pina-service.

    yun 5.9k ko fully synthetic so malamang balik ko sa casa, after 9 months ulit.

    sa CRDi hindi mo magagawa yan even if you load fully synthetic for diesel, 3 months balik ka pa din and you'll spend 6k also every 3 months

    mahal maintenance ng crdi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gen. Miting View Post
    me i drive Hyundai Sta Fe CRDi main + Honda CRV 1st gen alternate

    from the two choices above: Honda CRV ako. why? it's more prestigious

    2 it's cheaper in PMS. last PMS ko this april ng first gen ko sa casa is 5.9K lang, PMS before was July 2008 pa. yes 9 months ko hindi pina-service.

    yun 5.9k ko fully synthetic so malamang balik ko sa casa, after 9 months ulit.

    sa CRDi hindi mo magagawa yan even if you load fully synthetic for diesel, 3 months balik ka pa din and you'll spend 6k also every 3 months

    mahal maintenance ng crdi.
    is it truei? is it something to do with the vgt tech... toyota's crdi doesn't say so when using fully synthetic we just top up at least 1ltr after 5k of normal use (city driving/provincial trips) regardless of how many months but of course less than 1ayear...next change oil is at 10k...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gen. Miting View Post
    me i drive Hyundai Sta Fe CRDi main + Honda CRV 1st gen alternate

    from the two choices above: Honda CRV ako. why? it's more prestigious

    2 it's cheaper in PMS. last PMS ko this april ng first gen ko sa casa is 5.9K lang, PMS before was July 2008 pa. yes 9 months ko hindi pina-service.

    yun 5.9k ko fully synthetic so malamang balik ko sa casa, after 9 months ulit.

    sa CRDi hindi mo magagawa yan even if you load fully synthetic for diesel, 3 months balik ka pa din and you'll spend 6k also every 3 months

    mahal maintenance ng crdi.
    Kung fully synth ang gamit mo every 10,000km ang full replace sa SF CRDi. Sa 5000km top up lang atsaka palit oil filter. Pag semi-synthetic or mineral oil gamit mo then every 5000km palit. Dinadaya ka na ng CASA mo Gen. Miting if they say to replace your oil every 5000 km (using fully synth), pineperahan ka na nila!

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    fina-follow ko lang naman recommendations ng billing statement, next pms 3 months after ang nakalagay dun pag sa Hyundai

    pati billing ng dad ko sa hyundai starex crdi ganun din

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    is this true? every 3 months you need to spend 6k? Nako, im planning to buy an SF pa naman.

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