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  1. Join Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    16.9km/L on an Almera, city and highway driving combined

    Anyone who knows an Almera owner to check if the figures mentioned is achievable by a normal driver?

    Is the Nissan Almera, with its 1.0-liter turbo, the ideal sedan for PH fuel crisis? | TopGear PH
    The actual combined rating is going to be much lower than that.

    22km city * 8.8km/li
    90km highway * 15.3km/li
    164km highway * 16.6km/li

    We know from the start that city was 8.8km/li
    Then he added 142kms of highway driving, bringing the average fuel consumption to 16.6km/li

    So that 16.6km/li is the average from 22kms city, and 142kms highway. It's obvious that this figure is weighted much more heavily toward highway driving.

    To get a a proper city+highway average the distance traveled needs to be the same. Luckily we can compute the amount of fuel used for both the city and total portions of the drive, then infer the highway part:

    city: 22km / 8.8lm/li = 2.5li used
    total: 164km / 16.6km/li = 9.8795li used

    highway: = 9.875li - 2.5li = 7.3795li used
    highway mpg = 142km / 7.3795li = 19.24 km/li

    combined fuel economy, weighted at 55% city 45% highway as per EPA standards: 13.5km/li

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    simula namaster na cvt eh tumipid na talaga automatic.

    Yung 1st gen jazz ano ba naging issue doon. Nabasa ko yun daw ang "true cvt" Tapos mga current cvt ngayon eh hindi daw ganun.

    sarap kaya magdrive byahe ka punta probinsya tapos 20kpl ka all the way. Magkano lang magiging fuel expense. Pero syempre gasoline engine standard. Pag desel kasi nakakainis yung ingay gaspang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    so i wonder,
    is this the start of a visibly renewed km/li war among the car manufacturers?
    i hope so.
    us consumers can only benefit from it.
    One thing the article didn't mention... the Almera uses 95 Octane gas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    22km city * 8.8km/li
    90km highway * 15.3km/li
    164km highway * 16.6km/li
    if you break down the figures... then his results are attainable.

    10km/l ako sa City
    15 sa highway (without trying)
    21 at best... super effort

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    simula namaster na cvt eh tumipid na talaga automatic.

    Yung 1st gen jazz ano ba naging issue doon. Nabasa ko yung daw ang "true cvt" Tapos mga current cvt ngayon eh hindi daw ganun.

    sarap kaya magdrive byahe ka punta probinsya tapos 20kpl ka all the way. Magkano lang magiging fuel expense. Pero syempre gasoline engine standard. Pag desel kasi nakakainis yung ingay gaspang.

    city/jazz GD use clutch packs w/ the CVT. current CVT's use slushbox

    matipid talaga yung GD esp w/ the idsi engine w/ 8 valves and 8 sparks you can drive or should i say LUG the engine if you want i.e. 1100 RPM is actually usable.

    warning don't lug the engine and try to accelerate at the same time use low RPM only for maintaining constant speed. generally speaking don't go below 1250rpm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    city/jazz GD use clutch packs w/ the CVT. current CVT's use slushbox

    matipid talaga yung GD esp w/ the idsi engine w/ 8 valves and 8 sparks you can drive or should i say LUG the engine if you want i.e. 1100 RPM is actually usable.

    warning don't lug the engine and try to accelerate at the same time use low RPM only for maintaining constant speed. generally speaking don't go below 1250rpm

    bakit nagshift? Sirain ang clutchpack?

    si honda na ba king of efficient 1.5 engine?

    Napapaisip ako mag coolray at jimny. Pero ang habol ko talaga tipid fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    One thing the article didn't mention... the Almera uses 95 Octane gas.
    Sa other Almera reviewers medyo issue rin sa kanila ito.
    But at an average difference of 1.00 between 91 and 95RON, that would only be at most a Php40.00 additional sa full tank.
    If the drive nets better fuel mileage against a comparable sedan, that would be a more considerable savings.


    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    addendum.
    in the other thread, "which is the best, manual or automatic?",
    in post #97, gearhead was quoting another review-er, who claimed his almera experience at 6-9 km/li in the city, and 21 km/li in the highway.
    i guess, a lot has to do with, whatever we claim, "how do i really drive".

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    Yes, I do have my reservations about their quoted 6-7km/l, kahit pa sinasabi nilang dahil daw sa turbocharger.
    You (or Nissan) sacrificed power para sa one with less of it tapos ganyan lang ang FC sa city?


    Anyway, my concern about quoted digital FC's are mostly because I am wondering if they are quoting Average ba or Current!?
    I have seen mostly sa mga FB car groups people posting outrageous FCs tapos if you look closer Current reading pala.
    I can coax my Altis 2.0V to show 99km/l sa current reading if that's how they play.

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    MG Philippines's Line-Up Can All Do More Than 17 km/L | CarGuide

    Based on an AAP-sanction fuel economy test, MG vehicles reached the following fuel economy figures:

    MG 5 Sedan Alpha – 20.20 km/L
    MG ZS Crossover Alpha – 19.95 km/L
    MG ZS T Crossover Trophy – 19.70 km/L
    MG HS SUV Trophy – 17.31 km/L

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    well,
    the posted link does provide ... interesting reading...
    ... the comments from the readers.
    Last edited by dr. d; August 18th, 2022 at 01:20 PM.

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