fortuner 2.7G or Grandis?

[Syuryuken]

Fort for me.

It's Toyota

Honestly, mas marami kang magagawa sa Fort kesa sa Grandis, high ground clearance, macho look, better resale value, kargahan mo man ng mga mabibigat na bagahe kayang-kaya pa rin. Downside yung matagtag.

[BlueBimmer]

I think all Mitsu vehicles doesn't have a one-touch power window roll up button, only one-touch down. The speed sensing door locks can be had by installing an after market alarm that have this feature.

i tried sa outlander kanina, meron one touch up n down one touch down lang sa paj?

[drey]

Fort for me.

It's Toyota

Honestly, mas marami kang magagawa sa Fort kesa sa Grandis, high ground clearance, macho look, better resale value, kargahan mo man ng mga mabibigat na bagahe kayang-kaya pa rin. Downside yung matagtag.

sir, curious ako...

ano magagawa mo sa macho look?

[number001]

Reviews from motioncars (in no particular order or ranking)

Mitsubishi Grandis

Toyota Fortuner 2.7G

[RPG]

It's a matter of personal choice really. If you want a Van then by all means go for Grandis. But if you want an SUV go for the FORT. Am biased towards an SUV because of it's ruggedness and all around utlity. It most probably can go/do all that the Grandis can but the Grandis can't go/do all that the FORT can. Somehow I feel more safer driving in our country's road condition in an SUV than a Van.

[OTEP]

sir, curious ako...

ano magagawa mo sa macho look?

Look macho? :lol:

Unfortunately, there is still a stigma against MPV's and minivans in our local culture (just like in the States). Kesyo mukhang pang-pamilya, pang-driver, etc. Image is everything ika nga. hehehe.

To its credit the Fort can do some towing (if you order the optional uber expensive tow hitch). But you can also slap a tow hitch on a Grandis and tow a caravan if you wanted.

The Fortuner can climb curbs and can easily clear other road obstacles/debris. Just don't strayt too far off the beaten path because the 2.7G is a 4x2 and off-road driving is more about traction and control than ground clearance and macho looks. The Grandis will be easier to back up onto a steep and slippery driveway because most of its weight is on the drive wheels. The Fortuner will do the same antics that my former Besta did (spin tires needlessly).

It's still a personal choice. Just weigh all the virtues and the vices.

[oldblue]

laki pala ng discount ng grandis ah, ibig sabihin hindi mabili sa overpriced 1.5M.

pero worth yan at 1.35M pang-family. sikat ka pa kasi rare find sa roads natin

[niky]

Look macho? :lol:

Unfortunately, there is still a stigma against MPV's and minivans in our local culture (just like in the States). Kesyo mukhang pang-pamilya, pang-driver, etc. Image is everything ika nga. hehehe.

To its credit the Fort can do some towing (if you order the optional uber expensive tow hitch). But you can also slap a tow hitch on a Grandis and tow a caravan if you wanted.

The Fortuner can climb curbs and can easily clear other road obstacles/debris. Just don't strayt too far off the beaten path because the 2.7G is a 4x2 and off-road driving is more about traction and control than ground clearance and macho looks. The Grandis will be easier to back up onto a steep and slippery driveway because most of its weight is on the drive wheels. The Fortuner will do the same antics that my former Besta did (spin tires needlessly).

It's still a personal choice. Just weigh all the virtues and the vices.

Agree... it's amazing how many people think that just because it's an "SUV", it'll go anywhere.

Off-roadability is not only about clearance, it's about traction. The Toyota Fortuner 4x2 doesn't have a rear-axle LSD (the Torsen LSD is for the central locking diff of the 4x4). In other words, it's an open rear differential. In other words, just like an FX or Revo, you can get stuck more easily on slippery surfaces.

Unlike the Everest/Ranger, with a rear axle LSD, which gives better traction on slippery surfaces (though it's much better if a locking front differential were available for both vehicles).

Front-wheel drive vehicles like the Grandis have great traction because, like OTEP says, the weight is all over the drive wheels. They're more stable than rear wheel drive vehicles in slippery conditions, and less likely to spin out or tip over. Heck, Junior WRC uses front-wheel drivers. They're very predictable on loose surfaces.

If 99% of your driving is on roads, be they cement or light dirt trails, the Grandis is safer. I take our FWD sedan to our farm (even in the rain) with no problem. It's hard to get stuck, but when you actually do (it takes really deep mud to do it), you simply dig out sideways by turning the wheels.

If you take dirt trails with huge bumps and holes, then a 4x4 Fortuner is better. All a 4x2 will give you is more clearance.

And floodability? Do the smart thing... whatever you're driving, just park it and wait it out. Whether it be an SUV or a van, all vehicles nowadays have electronic boxes that can get ruined by floodwater if you get stuck in the middle too long. About the only current vehicle I'd feel safe in a flood in is a Crosswind... no fancy electronics to go *pffft*. All it needs is a snorkel and it'd be perfect.

[boybi]

i tried sa outlander kanina, meron one touch up n down one touch down lang sa paj?

Yup, one touch down lang sa Paj.

[imperialv]

Agree... it's amazing how many people think that just because it's an "SUV", it'll go anywhere.

Off-roadability is not only about clearance, it's about traction. The Toyota Fortuner 4x2 doesn't have a rear-axle LSD (the Torsen LSD is for the central locking diff of the 4x4). In other words, it's an open rear differential. In other words, just like an FX or Revo, you can get stuck more easily on slippery surfaces.

Unlike the Everest/Ranger, with a rear axle LSD, which gives better traction on slippery surfaces (though it's much better if a locking front differential were available for both vehicles).

Front-wheel drive vehicles like the Grandis have great traction because, like OTEP says, the weight is all over the drive wheels. They're more stable than rear wheel drive vehicles in slippery conditions, and less likely to spin out or tip over. Heck, Junior WRC uses front-wheel drivers. They're very predictable on loose surfaces.

If 99% of your driving is on roads, be they cement or light dirt trails, the Grandis is safer. I take our FWD sedan to our farm (even in the rain) with no problem. It's hard to get stuck, but when you actually do (it takes really deep mud to do it), you simply dig out sideways by turning the wheels.

If you take dirt trails with huge bumps and holes, then a 4x4 Fortuner is better. All a 4x2 will give you is more clearance.

And floodability? Do the smart thing... whatever you're driving, just park it and wait it out. Whether it be an SUV or a van, all vehicles nowadays have electronic boxes that can get ruined by floodwater if you get stuck in the middle too long. About the only current vehicle I'd feel safe in a flood in is a Crosswind... no fancy electronics to go *pffft*. All it needs is a snorkel and it'd be perfect.

yep. i second the motion.. if i have the extra budget, i'll go for the grandis...

[IMm29]

Grandis.

Though I'd prefer a Toyota over a Mitsu in general, especially in our local market, I think, if you're not going off-road, or if you don't need the ground clearance, you're better off with the Grandis.

It's spacious, it rides and drives like a car, but has more ground clearance than a car. In terms of mapopormahan, yeah, I believe that shouldn't be too much of a problem.

[3ple4]

I'll be biased to the Grandis coz we have one I can't say anything negative about it except for the low ground clearance.

And everyone I asked about the Fortuner's ride, lahat pareho sinasabi... Matagtag!!!

[mitsiboy]

wats the final decision of the person hu stared this thread? ive seen a couple of grandis w/out plates pa.still looks nice esp the limited edition version with hid headlamps

[Blackraven]

Between the two, Grandis nalang ako.

Masyado marami nang mga Fortuner d2 sa bansa.

[drey]

If you are not into off-roading...

Why sacrifice a comfort-biased vehicle?

[zxd168pzz]

Fortuner 2.7

For Toyota build quality, ride height, and almost
Expedition stance and presence for half the price.

I rode a Grandis during my last visit to Bangkok (called Space Wagon there), it has 15,000kms on it, and the suspension sounds and feels like crap. Considering that Bangkok has better roads than Manila, I won't bet my hard earned money on Mitsu quality (no offense).

Cheers!

[drey]

Hehehe... we test drove a Grandis in Manila with more than 100K kms.

Two words - "Still Solid".

For Toyota build quality, ride height, and almost

whats almost? Better ride quality?

I guess that suspension is more crappier because a lot of owners are complaining.

[Ventoy]

Iba pa rin ang Fortuner kahit sabihin nila super tagtag ito pa rin kinuha namin 2.7 Gas , maganda talaga porma nya