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    Hi Guys,

    I'd like to ask for your opinion on this. I'm planning to start a UV express business and I'm choosing between these 3 vehicles.

    1) Sa mga may sasakyan na ganito alin kaya sa mga ito ang mas magandang gamitin sa ganitong negosyo.
    2) Alin sa mga ito ang pinaka reliable?
    3) Most fuel efficient?
    4) Will provide me with the least downtime
    5) Customer support? (I guess pag ginamit sa negosyo eh wala nang makukuhang customer support sa mga sasakyang ito)
    6) Cheapest operating cost?
    7) Since they are all diesels, which one will be less prone to smoke belching?
    8) Which one will have parts readily available?

    Hoping for your inputs guys...

    TnX...

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    Based on what I read and told since I did not own any of the 3:

    1) Sa mga may sasakyan na ganito alin kaya sa mga ito ang mas magandang gamitin sa ganitong negosyo.
    Crosswind. Pang kargahan at pang rough roa.

    2) Alin sa mga ito ang pinaka reliable?
    Crosswind.

    3) Most fuel efficient?
    Crosswind.

    4) Will provide me with the least downtime
    Crosswind.

    5) Customer support? (I guess pag ginamit sa negosyo eh wala nang makukuhang customer support sa mga sasakyang ito)
    Revo, Toyota has superb customer service.

    6) Cheapest operating cost?
    If you will be maintaining in casa, halos pareho lang siguro operating cost. But if outside, probably cheaper kung Isuzu and Toyota due to availablility of parts and number of mechanics, espiecially Crosswin, since its engine has been around since 1985 pa yata,

    7) Since they are all diesels, which one will be less prone to smoke belching?
    Revo. Smoke blecher boy always target crosswind along C5 kalayaan interchange.

    8) Which one will have parts readily available?
    Isuzu and Toyota.

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    If you're looking at secondhand cars, no point going to the dealership for anything.

    Parts are readily available for all three. There are a zillion Adventures on the road and even more 4D56 motors (the Adventure uses the same motor as the L300)... so parts are everywhere. Absolutely everywhere.

    The Crosswind is the most practical pick among the three, though yes, it is the most prone to smoke belching.

    The Revo, however, I've always felt to be the most comfortable.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    My answer would be Crosswind.

    Since UV Express ka naman, hindi ka naman siguro paparahin ng mga ASBU. Pero if you will use it as a private car, good luck when you pass in the croc infested areas.

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    Either an Advie or Crosswind is fine. Just look for the best unit available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rna800 View Post
    My answer would be Crosswind.

    Since UV Express ka naman, hindi ka naman siguro paparahin ng mga ASBU. Pero if you will use it as a private car, good luck when you pass in the croc infested areas.
    Anong hinde paparahin. Sila nga favorite parahin ng ASBU dyan sa pasig.

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    Tnx guys for your immediate replies.

    I'm fishing for a brand new unit.

    Ano ba kasi mayron ang isuzu at kahit bago ang sasakyan ay mausok na agad? Di ba mayron namang turbo yung lowest variant ng Crosswind? Actually, I like the Crosswind more among my options. yun nga lang I have 2nd thoughts because of it's tagged being smoke belcher. Bakit nga ba kasi ganun?

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    If pang UV Express, then get the Crosswind.

    We own an Advie, and it would be a better buy if for private use (mas comfortable, less smoke, better interiors, lots of parts), pero not as rugged and as powerful as the crosswind sa akyatan (has better torque, better pulling power).

    I'm using 2T oil sa advie, halos walang smoke and better engine response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garfield_08 View Post
    If pang UV Express, then get the Crosswind.

    We own an Advie, and it would be a better buy if for private use (mas comfortable, less smoke, better interiors, lots of parts), pero not as rugged and as powerful as the crosswind sa akyatan (has better torque, better pulling power).

    I'm using 2T oil sa advie, halos walang smoke and better engine response.

    Hi Garfield,

    May turbo na ba mga bagong Advie ngaun? Tsaka yung cams niyan push rod type pa rin ba? I guess timing belt na xa di ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by erick_214 View Post
    Hi Guys,

    I'd like to ask for your opinion on this. I'm planning to start a UV express business and I'm choosing between these 3 vehicles.

    1) Sa mga may sasakyan na ganito alin kaya sa mga ito ang mas magandang gamitin sa ganitong negosyo.
    2) Alin sa mga ito ang pinaka reliable?
    3) Most fuel efficient?
    4) Will provide me with the least downtime
    5) Customer support? (I guess pag ginamit sa negosyo eh wala nang makukuhang customer support sa mga sasakyang ito)
    6) Cheapest operating cost?
    7) Since they are all diesels, which one will be less prone to smoke belching?
    8) Which one will have parts readily available?

    Hoping for your inputs guys...

    TnX...
    Yung service ko sa office is a Mitsubishi Adventure GX. It's very reliable kasi yan dala namin parati sa field work sa Tuguegarao, Ilocos and Baguio. Naikot na rin ng ibang kaopisina ko yung MacArthur at Maharlika using this. Tried it on and off-road (dalahin sa mga pilapil at nabalaho na minsan sa lahar hehe). Wala namang nasira whatsoever except nung tinamaan ng bato yung piping ng aircon at nasira yung transmission oil sump dahil mag siraulo na naglagay ng bato sa gitna ng highway.

    With regards to servicing, parang typical na diesel vehicle lang. Parts are readily available. Mausok pala ito kapag hindi napapalitan ng langis. Pina-modify din yung exhaust system para pwede saksakan ng hose para linisin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erick_214 View Post

    Hi Garfield,

    May turbo na ba mga bagong Advie ngaun? Tsaka yung cams niyan push rod type pa rin ba? I guess timing belt na xa di ba?
    We have the 2nd Gen Advie Super Sport. AFAIK, wala pa naman changes sa Advie in terms of engine design (4D56, non-turbo, timing belt pa rin).

    Went up to Baguio 2x with it, parang kinakapos sa Kennon road, but still manages to get through, yun nga lang, umuusok na plus temp gauge went up to 3/4 level hehe. Never had an overheat though. Had no major problems with it except for a busted aircon relay. Pretty reliable IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erick_214 View Post
    Hi Guys,

    I'd like to ask for your opinion on this. I'm planning to start a UV express business and I'm choosing between these 3 vehicles.

    1) Sa mga may sasakyan na ganito alin kaya sa mga ito ang mas magandang gamitin sa ganitong negosyo.
    2) Alin sa mga ito ang pinaka reliable?
    3) Most fuel efficient?
    4) Will provide me with the least downtime
    5) Customer support? (I guess pag ginamit sa negosyo eh wala nang makukuhang customer support sa mga sasakyang ito)
    6) Cheapest operating cost?
    7) Since they are all diesels, which one will be less prone to smoke belching?
    8) Which one will have parts readily available?

    Hoping for your inputs guys...

    TnX...
    Sa 3 choices, out mo na sir yung revo, hindi na sya pwede pang UV express kailangan kase modelo

    1. Both AUV are reliable pang UV express, pero kung sa build quality, in favor ako sa advie.

    2. Mas matipid yung crosswind, kung yung route mo wala naman mga akyatin ok naman yung advie

    3.kung ma maintain mo naman, parehas din ok, pero in the long run, mas ok yung advie kase yung crosswind may turbo na, kapag yun ang nagloko mas magastos, kung regular naman yung pagpalit mo ng Tbelt sa advie hinde ka naman masisiraan sa daan

    4.Kapag pampasada mas ok kung hindi na sa casa madali naman imaintain parehas yan.

    5.Almost the same lang sila ng operating cost hindi naman nagkakalayo. madali naman hanapan ng parts.

    6.IMO parehas sila mausok pero kung ok yung maintenance hindi naman, yung ASBU sa route mo sir kaibiganin mo na lang yung team leader para hindi ka naman mahuli kada may operation sila

    Its up to you sir kung anu mas ok sayo pero kung primary concerned mo yung FC na mas matipid, mag crosswind ka na.

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    Hi Guys,

    Thank you very much for your inputs, keep it coming.
    Sya nga pala may catalytic converter na ba ang Advie at Crosswind?

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    Chief, wala ng brand new Revo.. Innova na ang pumalit.

    Quote Originally Posted by erick_214 View Post
    Tnx guys for your immediate replies.

    I'm fishing for a brand new unit.

    Ano ba kasi mayron ang isuzu at kahit bago ang sasakyan ay mausok na agad? Di ba mayron namang turbo yung lowest variant ng Crosswind? Actually, I like the Crosswind more among my options. yun nga lang I have 2nd thoughts because of it's tagged being smoke belcher. Bakit nga ba kasi ganun?

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    eLoW imperialv,

    I've check sulit and I saw brand new advies and crosswinds for sale...

    Hmmm...kung innova na lang kaya? May turbo na yung base variant nito di ba?

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    Yes. Innova's use the same engine across the line. It's also the same engine found in the 2.5L Hilux, Fortuner and Hiace. Matibay at matipid to, kayang kaya rin lumusong sa baha. Kung ikukumpara sa Crosswind at Adventure, less prone to smoke belching din. Yun nga lang mahal ang piyesa kung sakaling may papalitang electronics since D4D na siya. You will also have to shell out extra to convert the 3rd row to side facing type in order to maximize passenger capacity.

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    hmm...

    What about the Toyota Hilux FB, tumingin-tingin ako ng specs mukhang kasya 12 sa likod at 2 sa harap at mura pa. Ok kayang gamitin ito instead na crosswind or advie or innnova. Sasakay kaya yung mga tao (Marikina-Cubao) kung parang style-jeep yung seating orientation nya, pero syempre dapat dual aircon din.

    What do you think guys???

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    ^
    Kung sa may sasakay, for sure meron sasakay diyan, sir, especially during rush hour and umuulan.

    But if you will look at the trend, kung maganda at ok talagang gawin na UV Express yang Toyota Hilux FX, sana madami ang naka ganyan. But me personally, I haven't seen one. Puro Advie, Crosswind, Revo, Commuter. Meron pa ung mga lumang L300 and FX but never seen a UV Express Hilux FX.

    Ung iVan ng Isuzu, try mo din. I have seen a few UV Express na iVan. Kaso mahal na ata.

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    ^ wala rin pa ako nakikita. kasi kung mag-jeepney seating ka, L300 fb exceed na lang. kasi mas mura ito at mas maraming seating capacity

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    ^ wala rin pa ako nakikita. kasi kung mag-jeepney seating ka, L300 fb exceed na lang. kasi mas mura ito at mas maraming seating capacity
    Ang naiisip ko kasi sa Hilux FB eh ang ganda ng makina ng D4D, kung baga turbo na siya at mas mataas pa yung HP kaysa sa crosswind tapos kasya pa ang 14 people. Hindi naman mukhang masagwa itsura ng FB di ba? Yung L300 din sana maganda kaso nga lang walang turbo eh.

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