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    Hi guys, which do you prefer? hyundai starex 2.5 crdi at (P1.268m) or kia carnival 2.9 crdi at (P1.290m)
    pang all around use

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    Quote Originally Posted by C190 View Post
    Hi guys, which do you prefer? hyundai starex 2.5 crdi at (P1.268m) or kia carnival 2.9 crdi at (P1.290m)
    pang all around use
    all around use? Starex na. Mas malaking cargo space, mas maluwag ang legroom, mas mataas ang ground clearance & mas fuel efficient. Kahit 2.5 CRDi lang ang Starex, very powerful na sya kumpara sa 2.5 D-4D ng Toyota.

    hindi mo na ba iintayin ang Grand Starex?

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    The Carnival is more car like to drive if it matters to you.

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    I would prefer the Starex mainly because we have a big family and were big people.

    But it will always boil down into your own needs.
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    i prefer carnival bec. big engine and car like chasis. i'm sure very comfortable sa long trips.

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    I prefer our Carnival for long trips, but the Starex for driving in tight traffic because of its better turning radius and shorter length. Mas mahaba ang nguso ng Carnival kaya mas kampante ako i-drive sya sa highway. Nailusong na namin ang parehong sasakyan sa baha (past the center of the wheel) at walang timurik sa kanila.

    The Carnival has easier ingress and egress, plus, if you compare it with the current Starex, it has the bonus of having sliding doors on both sides.

    I've used both vehicles for hauling cargo, and while the Starex has more space, the Carnival is no slouch either, being able to accommodate large boxes and tables with the 3rd row moved fully forward.

    I prefer the handbrake of the Starex to the footbrake of the Carnival. When all is said and done, one is a van while the other is a minivan, so they are targeted for slightly different niches.

    As another poster said, it all boils down to your particular needs. Inspect both in the showroom to get a better idea of which one will be more useful and hassle-free for you in the long run.

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    Was asked to move my discussion to this site... Please assist???

    Here is my 2 cents worth as I am in a similar dilema...
    The new grand starex 9seater AT CRDI (price not sure but around PHP1.6M)or the new Kia Carnival EX LWB (PHP1.57M)...

    Length Kia longer by 5mm width kia longer 65mm height starex heigher by 165mm (maybe that is why it looks roomier.

    Engine both crdi, kia is 2.9lit turbo and starex 2.5lit VGT (not sure which is better anybody can assist??) max output kia is at 160/3700rpm vs hyundai 174/3800rpm...

    Seats and legroom starex seems bigger and better and luggage room I would same same... but the kia has the fold and stow to floor level...

    On the features kia stands out completely (starex has nothing to offer) with all the bells and whisles including power dual side doors and tailgate... (parang town and country)... kia apholstery is really bad but seat covers can take care of that...

    My family is getting bigger but my kids are still small 5, 2 and planning 1 more soon..

    I am inclined to buy the Kia already, ready by next month but starex in October or even later....

    What do you guys think...

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    If it were me and I could afford to wait, I would. Kasi yung Starex wala pa sa official dealers so medyo problemado pa ang aftersales. Yung Kia, naman, new model din -- at feel ko lang from the feedbacks, mas maganda ang feedbacks on reliability nung starex on the PREVIOUS model. My .02.

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    Both are good vehicles. But if it were me, I'd choose the Starex since it gives me a more commanding view of the road.

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    I beg to disagree regarding the point on reliability: I have already replaced a stabilizer link and an idler bearing on my 2006 Starex, while it was less than a year old. In contrast, I only started experiencing parts breakage on our 2002 Carnival on its third year of use. Both vehicles are driven under the same road conditions.

    Comparing fit and finish, I wa more impressed with the build quality of our older Carnival than with our newer Starex. Yun nga lang, ang tagal maglabas ng bagong modelo ng Carnival kaya Starex na yung binili namin last year.

    Anyway, YMMV, and I have no idea how the 2007 Starex will hold up compared with the 2007 Carnival. Man, I wish I could win the lottery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey177 View Post
    I beg to disagree regarding the point on reliability: I have already replaced a stabilizer link and an idler bearing on my 2006 Starex, while it was less than a year old. In contrast, I only started experiencing parts breakage on our 2002 Carnival on its third year of use. Both vehicles are driven under the same road conditions.

    Comparing fit and finish, I wa more impressed with the build quality of our older Carnival than with our newer Starex. Yun nga lang, ang tagal maglabas ng bagong modelo ng Carnival kaya Starex na yung binili namin last year.

    Anyway, YMMV, and I have no idea how the 2007 Starex will hold up compared with the 2007 Carnival. Man, I wish I could win the lottery.

    Sorry to hear that. Sa Kia thread kasi ako naka-basa ng repair issues sa Kia eh yung 3 previous starex namin hindi naman nagkaka-problems sa suspension. Hope you were able to get it fixed free, though.

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    thanks to all inputs

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    The stabilizer link of my Starex was replaced under warranty by Hyundai Dagupan, but they didn't replace the idler bearing since they reasoned that it is a "moving part" and therefore subject to "normal wear and tear."

    Yung shifter cable naman ang nasira sa Carnival ko on its third year. Hindi ko na na-claim under warranty kasi nasa probinsya kami nun at mas mahal siguro magpa-tow hanggang casa ng Kia sa Wheels E. Rod kaysa sa maghanap ng piyesa on my own

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    Another thing to consider is the weight of the two vehicles. Ewan ko kung ano yung ginagawa ng driver namin, pero mas madalas syang makaranas ng flat tire sa Starex (apat na so far), pero nung Carnival pa yung dala nya, di sya na-flatan, ever. It's still a mystery to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C190 View Post
    Hi guys, which do you prefer? hyundai starex 2.5 crdi at (P1.268m) or kia carnival 2.9 crdi at (P1.290m)
    pang all around use
    i really can't compare pero kung pang all around mas mahirap i-drive siguro yan carnival bec. of the long body.

    i used to drive our chevy venture (same body as kia) before my dad bought his starex. love na love ko drive ang starex even in bumper to bumper traffic conditions. lahat nakikita ko

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    Teka, I think the new Carnival has a price tag of P1.5+m, not P1.2m something.

    Niwey, magandang comparison 'to, well if I have to choose, my answer would be... depende! Like it both though the Carnival gave the most advantages: compact van w/ car-like characteristics, seats 8 big passengers comfortably (can stretch to 10 pa), better a/c vents (w/ rear foot vent), what captivated me also is the power windows of both the sliding doors (non-sliding windows anymore!), engine potential is great. Rants on like a driver-side airbag only (not dual), 4-speed AT (where's the 5-speed Kia?!?) to give some.

    Starex is fairly good too, though it's just too big for me. But w/ a humongous family, this best fit for them!

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    [quote=rayban7g;884193]Teka, I think the new Carnival has a price tag of P1.5+m, not P1.2m something.

    Bro yan ang binigay na presyo sa akin ng SA ng mag road test kami ng carnival, yung yatang 1.5m ay power sliding door na.

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    The 1.2 is the SWB... no cargo space.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Starex!!!!

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    Congrats EQAddict! Haven't seen an LWB Grand Carnival, just the SWB 5 seater version. Was very impressed.

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    Urvan for me.....

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