Focus Ambiente (1.6 AT) versus Elantra 1.6 AT

[ericc]

Hi guys! I'm hoping I can get some help here

I'm about to replace my altis with either a ford focus or the elantra. Not much feedback on the focus yet (or can't find them?) so i can't compare it with other cars at least from online info. The elantra, on the other hand, seems to be a current favorite, at least online, except for the HARI issues. I plan to keep this new car for at least 4 years, so maybe you can also comment on maintenance requirements and services of ford versus hyundai casas. Do you also have preferred dealerships?

I've ruled out the new civic: bit more expensive, and I was very uncomfortable with the interiors (1.8 E), though I know it's a good car.

Many thanks!!!

[dct]

Focus for me. Mas bago, mas sporty, mas bagay sa lalaki (just my opinion) mas may features

Also nakaka-turn off HARI. Sayang at ang gaganda pa naman hyundai units ngayon

[jut703]

Focus:
- So-so interior space, makes up for this with a large trunk
- Steel rims w/ hubcap (!)
- No parking sensors
- No EBD
- No fog lamps
- Has steering wheel audio controls
- 60/40 split-fold rear seats
- Integrated head unit that has iPod connectivity
- More expensive at 929k

Elantra:
- Much more spacious, largest interior room in class
- Tiny 15" rims that look disproportionate
- 1 airbag only
- Has both ABS and EBD
- No parking sensors
- No fog lamps
- Fixed rear seats
- No steering wheel controls
- 1-DIN head unit that looks out of place in the interior (still has iPod connectivity though)
- Cheaper at 888k

My take is that if you're going for the Focus Ambiente, might as well spend an extra 30k and go for the Elantra 1.8 GLS instead.
This also means that between the Focus Ambiente and Elantra 1.6 GL, I'd go with the latter.

[eido]

civic 1.8e = 1M. may 1.8s = 948k. between focus ambiente and honda 1.8s. yung honda pipiliin ko.
ambiente 1.6 has the same engine as fiesta 1.6 kung hindi ako nag kakamali. officemate ko may fiesta sports+. reklamo nya mas matipid pa CRV nya kesa sa fiesta nya. malamang pag yung engine ng fiesta na 1.6 nilagay mo sa focus na mas mabigat. mas lalo panget gas mileage mo. kung yan lang dalawang model pinagpipilian mo. mag elantra ka na lang

[jut703]

civic 1.8e = 1M. may 1.8s = 948k. between focus ambiente and honda 1.8s. yung honda pipiliin ko.
ambiente 1.6 has the same engine as fiesta 1.6 kung hindi ako nag kakamali. officemate ko may fiesta sports+. reklamo nya mas matipid pa CRV nya kesa sa fiesta nya. malamang pag yung engine ng fiesta na 1.6 nilagay mo sa focus na mas mabigat. mas lalo panget gas mileage mo. kung yan lang dalawang model pinagpipilian mo. mag elantra ka na lang

http://tsikot.com/forums/ford-cars-t...4/index60.html

[macstar1]

Focus:
- So-so interior space, makes up for this with a large trunk
- Steel rims w/ hubcap (!)
- No parking sensors
- No EBD
- No fog lamps
- Has steering wheel audio controls
- 60/40 split-fold rear seats
- Integrated head unit that has iPod connectivity
- More expensive at 929k

Elantra:
- Much more spacious, largest interior room in class
- Tiny 15" rims that look disproportionate
- 1 airbag only
- Has both ABS and EBD
- No parking sensors
- No fog lamps
- Fixed rear seats
- No steering wheel controls
- 1-DIN head unit that looks out of place in the interior (still has iPod connectivity though)
- Cheaper at 888k

My take is that if you're going for the Focus Ambiente, might as well spend an extra 30k and go for the Elantra 1.8 GLS instead.
This also means that between the Focus Ambiente and Elantra 1.6 GL, I'd go with the latter.

I agree, mapa 1.8gls or 1.6l, mas sulit ang elantra over ambiente ...


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[randyps123]

Hindi largest in its class interior ang elantra mas malaki civic he he. I will go with the focus kasi bago sya saka sana maayos ng hyundai service nila

[cripple_rooster]

The Elantra seems to be more bang-for-the-bucks.

[macstar1]

Hindi largest in its class interior ang elantra mas malaki civic he he. I will go with the focus kasi bago sya saka sana maayos ng hyundai service nila

Pero chief, sa presyo ng civic ngayon, konting dagdag na lang e camry or sonata na.

[Egan101]

Yung TOTL models ng compacts ngayon humahabol na sa price ng mga lower-end mid-size cars. Will you spend 1.2-1.3M for a compact or spend 1.3-1.4M for a midsize car? Yung Suzuki Kizashi looks like a good deal at 1.288M or the low-end Sonata at less than 1.4M.

[eido]

Pero chief, sa presyo ng civic ngayon, konting dagdag na lang e camry or sonata na.

punta ka website ng Honda check mo ulit price ng civic. Meron na Thai units

[jut703]

Hindi largest in its class interior ang elantra mas malaki civic he he. I will go with the focus kasi bago sya saka sana maayos ng hyundai service nila

In terms of passenger interior room? I beg to disagree. I've driven and ridden in the backseat of both and the Elantra feels roomier. The current FB is just a tad more spacious than the FD it replaced.

Yung TOTL models ng compacts ngayon humahabol na sa price ng mga lower-end mid-size cars. Will you spend 1.2-1.3M for a compact or spend 1.3-1.4M for a midsize car? Yung Suzuki Kizashi looks like a good deal at 1.288M or the low-end Sonata at less than 1.4M.

The TS is talking about the low end variants of the Focus and Elantra, so I don't really understand why TOTL compacts are brought in the picture. Anyway, the argument for TOTL compacts over entry-level midsize sedans is that they're cheaper (200k is still 200k) and yet offer the same level of equipment (or even better).

The Kizashi isn't a very compelling car if you ask me. Its specs are pretty ho-hum (no fog lamps by default, urethane steering wheel, fabric seats, no parking sensors, no HID, but at least it has 6 airbags, traction control, climate control and push-button ignition). When I drove it, the 2.4L engine didn't feel very punchy. Perhaps it's because of the CVT, which made the overall experience just about the same as if I was driving a 2.0L engine. If anything, it's got a little bit more space than the TOTL compacts, but still not as much as the other mid-sizers.

punta ka website ng Honda check mo ulit price ng civic. Meron na Thai units

The 1.8S is priced at 908k for the MT and 948k for the AT. For that price, here's what you get:

- Tiny 15" rims
- No parking sensors
- No fog lamps
- Fixed rear seats
- No turn signal indicators

Compared to the price of the 1.8E, it's not that bad. But if you consider that the Elantra GLS is just 10k away and yet offers more kit, then it loses its value-for-money proposition. Of course, once you take in the badge factor, Honda suddenly blows Hyundai out of the water.

[renzo_d10]

Elantra 1.8GLS

Panalo ka with everything. Wala ka issue sa reliability since 4 years mo lang naman pala plan i-keep.

Nagiging doubtful lang minsan mga tao sa quality ng bagong Hyundai kung mahigit isang dekada mo itatabi sayo. Hehe.

Ganda nung 1.8GLS kapag black. Kaso hirap lang ata stocks?



Pero kung 1.6L AT lang talaga gusto mo. Ok pa rin.

[macstar1]

Elantra 1.8GLS

Panalo ka with everything. Wala ka issue sa reliability since 4 years mo lang naman pala plan i-keep.

Nagiging doubtful lang minsan mga tao sa quality ng bagong Hyundai kung mahigit isang dekada mo itatabi sayo. Hehe.

Ganda nung 1.8GLS kapag black. Kaso hirap lang ata stocks?



Pero kung 1.6L AT lang talaga gusto mo. Ok pa rin.

Medyo lamang pa rin nga ang 1.8GLS elantra sa Civic 1.8S
In my personal experience, hindi ko na kinailangang magdagdag ng accessories sa Elantra ko, except for the freebies na reverse camera, visor at LCD rear view mirror. Acceptable din ang audio quality.

Ang major advantage nga lang ni Civic e kung every 10K ang PMS.


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[Starex_Gold]

In terms of passenger interior room? I beg to disagree. I've driven and ridden in the backseat of both and the Elantra feels roomier. The current FB is just a tad more spacious than the FD it replaced.

Napapag-alaman kung sino ang may ano

Elantra vote ko dito. Mas okay kung 1.8 GLS na. Tsaka kesa Civic FB, used FD parin.

[eido]

Freebie yung reverse camera mo and rear view mirror? Cash, in house or bank po ka? Kung in house ka hindi talaga freebie yan. Lamang talaga elantra gls sa civic. Pero civic binili namin hehe

Kung ako sa ts between ambiente and the elantra. Elantra na. test drive ka pala para maramdaman mo yung handling ng kotse. Idaan mo sa lubak. Apakan mo ng todo yung accelerator from stop. Press on the brakes hard. Magsama ka pag nag test drive paupuin mo sa drivers seat yung seating position nya saka ka umupo sa likod. Do the same on both cars with the same person sa harap

[tidus1203]

Focus ako! I love driving eh and knowing its a Ford I am sure it will drive much much better with better suspension setup than an Elantra. The Korean don't know how to make fun to drive cars yet...

[randyps123]

[QUOTE=jut703;1999048]In terms of passenger interior room? I beg to disagree. I've driven and ridden in the backseat of both and the Elantra feels roomier. The current FB is just a tad more spacious than the FD it replaced.



mas malaki nga elantra according to motor trend kakatingin lang he he he. nung nagtest drive ako kasi kala ko mas malaki ung civic pero in paper ito nakalagay



civic

Internal dimensions: front headroom (inches): 37.9, rear headroom (inches): 37.1, front hip room (inches): 50.5, rear hip room (inches): 51.4, front leg room (inches): 42.0, rear leg room (inches): 36.2, front shoulder room (inches): 56.6, rear shoulder room (inches): 53.3 and interior volume (cu ft): 92.1


elantra

Internal dimensions: front headroom (inches): 40.0, rear headroom (inches): 37.1, front hip room (inches): 53.5, rear hip room (inches): 52.7, front leg room (inches): 43.6, rear leg room (inches): 33.1, front shoulder room (inches): 55.9, rear shoulder room (inches): 54.8 and interior volume (cu ft): 95.6

[renzo_d10]

Focus ako! I love driving eh and knowing its a Ford I am sure it will drive much much better with better suspension setup than an Elantra. The Korean don't know how to make fun to drive cars yet...

Genesis Coupe 2.0T/3.8V6 ?

[ericc]

Thanks for the insights! Keep 'em flowing :-) Other questions:
1. Does hyundai require pms every 5K/3 months? Honda and Ford require q10K/ 6 months
2. Are there preferred hyundai and ford dealerships?