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    #21
    2nd hand Focus TDCi ayaw nyo sir? Pwede siguro 2011-2012 units. Open naman pala kayo sa 2nd hand eh. If so there are many options available even among SUVs.

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    Sa tingin ko lang po, sa mga bagong sasakyan, hindi naman po nasi laki ang sukatan ng safety niya sa crashes. Mas importante pa rin yung design ng crash structure.

    Tingnan niyo po yung ASX, kaliit-liit pero isa siya sa dalawang CUV na pumasa ng small overlap crash test ng IIHS. Talo pa niya ang CR-V, Rav 4 na bago, Jeep Patriot, Kia Sportage, etc.

    With that in mind, I think hindi ka magkakamali sa Lancer, Elantra or FD in terms of safety. Compared to bigger vehicles sold only in 3rd world countries and wasn't designed to meet international standards of safety, mas magaganda yung tatlong sedans dahil pumasa na iyan ng napakaraming crash tests.

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMikProject View Post
    Sa tingin ko lang po, sa mga bagong sasakyan, hindi naman po nasi laki ang sukatan ng safety niya sa crashes. Mas importante pa rin yung design ng crash structure.

    Tingnan niyo po yung ASX, kaliit-liit pero isa siya sa dalawang CUV na pumasa ng small overlap crash test ng IIHS. Talo pa niya ang CR-V, Rav 4 na bago, Jeep Patriot, Kia Sportage, etc.

    With that in mind, I think hindi ka magkakamali sa Lancer, Elantra or FD in terms of safety. Compared to bigger vehicles sold only in 3rd world countries and wasn't designed to meet international standards of safety, mas magaganda yung tatlong sedans dahil pumasa na iyan ng napakaraming crash tests.
    difficult to judge... like you said, these 3rd world vehicles haven't been crash-tested..
    personally, if ever i'm (Heaven forbid!!) involved in a crash, i'd feel safer if i were driving a bigger vehicle.. wasn't there a study sometime in the past, that indicated that in a crash, people driving bigger vehicles tended to suffer less injury than those driving smaller vehicles...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    difficult to judge... like you said, these 3rd world vehicles haven't been crash-tested..
    personally, if ever i'm (Heaven forbid!!) involved in a crash, i'd feel safer if i were driving a bigger vehicle.. wasn't there a study sometime in the past, that indicated that in a crash, people driving bigger vehicles tended to suffer less injury than those driving smaller vehicles...?
    True, bigger vehicles usually fair better in crashes (imagine a subcompact crashing into a truck) but a small car with a well designed safety system would fair better than a big car with a poorly designed system. (e.g. a small Volvo C30 vs a big, heavy PUV jeepney)

    If you really want to know more about a car's safety record, I suggest looking at their safety features and browsing through the sites of various crash testing organizations. (IIHS, Euroncap, ANCAP- you'll see the ratings of a lot of familiar models sold in the country in the Australian NCAP and ASEAN NCAP)

    Remember this: Mustang crashing into Adventure in Skyway - [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWa79lW1FcQ"]Mustang & Adventure Skyway Accident - YouTube[/ame]
    The Adventure is a bigger vehicle than the Mustang, but the fatalities came from the Adventure.

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    #25
    kakatingin ko lang po ng mga 2nd hand na Focus TDCi, ang taas pa pala ng value hay sayang, sabagay diesel kasi eh tapos ang lakas pa ng makina, pag 2nd po kasi nasa 400-450k lang ang budget ko kasi usually hangang 3 yrs lang pwede i loan ang mga 2nd hand cars not to mention mas malaki ang downpayment (30%)

    sa Mirage at Accent, ayaw na pumayag ni misis, maliit daw, ayaw nya daw ma compromise ang safety, kaya compact sedan lang talaga ang bagsak ko, yun Innova pwede din kaso parang masyadong malaki, ako lang naman kasi madalas ang laman, pero tama din naman ang sinasabi nyo sir dr d. mas safe nga naman Innova kaysa compact sedan, pag isapan ko din po ito, pero for now I'm leaning towards compact sedans. Yun ASX gusto ko din yan kaso mahal eh kahit 2nd hand, tapos halos wala pang nabebenta kasi nga very satisfied sila sa ASX nila. Hays! sana kasi i launch na ng Ford yun EcoSport dito sa Pinas malamang papatusin ko kaagad yun heheheh....

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    The Innova is actually a prudent choice. Its actually similar in length and width to a typical compact sedan. You get extended seating capacity, D4D engine gives decent performance and excellent gas mileage. You also get sturdy underpinnings and surprisingly high flood wading capability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jing182 View Post
    kakatingin ko lang po ng mga 2nd hand na Focus TDCi, ang taas pa pala ng value hay sayang, sabagay diesel kasi eh tapos ang lakas pa ng makina, pag 2nd po kasi nasa 400-450k lang ang budget ko kasi usually hangang 3 yrs lang pwede i loan ang mga 2nd hand cars not to mention mas malaki ang downpayment (30%)

    sa Mirage at Accent, ayaw na pumayag ni misis, maliit daw, ayaw nya daw ma compromise ang safety, kaya compact sedan lang talaga ang bagsak ko, yun Innova pwede din kaso parang masyadong malaki, ako lang naman kasi madalas ang laman, pero tama din naman ang sinasabi nyo sir dr d. mas safe nga naman Innova kaysa compact sedan, pag isapan ko din po ito, pero for now I'm leaning towards compact sedans. Yun ASX gusto ko din yan kaso mahal eh kahit 2nd hand, tapos halos wala pang nabebenta kasi nga very satisfied sila sa ASX nila. Hays! sana kasi i launch na ng Ford yun EcoSport dito sa Pinas malamang papatusin ko kaagad yun heheheh....
    Just tell the missus this:

    The Mirage has five star safety. Granted, our local Mirage doesn't have stability control, but it's still a five star car. The Innova has no crash-testing data... at all. It's a third-world vehicle, that, based on the Hilux crash test results, would be three stars at best.

    Then she says... but the Innova is bigger!

    Show her this:

    Fifth Gear - Renault Modus v Volvo 940 Crash Test - YouTube

    That Volvo is potentially a two or three star car. It's bigger, heavier and has more frontal crush space than the Renault. But you'd be deader in a head-on collision.

    That's what crash safety means. No matter how big or how small the car, the stars mean the same thing. Many big pick-ups and AUVs are rated a lowly three stars or less on modern crash tests... and some, like the ancient Adventure and Crosswind, aren't rated at all.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #28
    What about the Altis, hindi mo ba ito I-consider as one of your options?

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    #29
    Lots of blokes still stuck with the "bigger is always better (or in this case, safer)" mentality.

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMikProject View Post
    True, bigger vehicles usually fair better in crashes (imagine a subcompact crashing into a truck) but a small car with a well designed safety system would fair better than a big car with a poorly designed system. (e.g. a small Volvo C30 vs a big, heavy PUV jeepney)

    If you really want to know more about a car's safety record, I suggest looking at their safety features and browsing through the sites of various crash testing organizations. (IIHS, Euroncap, ANCAP- you'll see the ratings of a lot of familiar models sold in the country in the Australian NCAP and ASEAN NCAP)

    Remember this: Mustang crashing into Adventure in Skyway - Mustang & Adventure Skyway Accident - YouTube
    The Adventure is a bigger vehicle than the Mustang, but the fatalities came from the Adventure.
    the adventure is not the bigger car
    It only weighs 3100 pounds
    the mustang on the other hand is a porky 3700 pounds

    The big car doesnt always win

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