Elantra 1.6 GL M/T vs Lancer 1.6 EX M/T

[GTi]

2nd hand Focus TDCi ayaw nyo sir? Pwede siguro 2011-2012 units. Open naman pala kayo sa 2nd hand eh. If so there are many options available even among SUVs.

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[TheMikProject]

Sa tingin ko lang po, sa mga bagong sasakyan, hindi naman po nasi laki ang sukatan ng safety niya sa crashes. Mas importante pa rin yung design ng crash structure.

Tingnan niyo po yung ASX, kaliit-liit pero isa siya sa dalawang CUV na pumasa ng small overlap crash test ng IIHS. Talo pa niya ang CR-V, Rav 4 na bago, Jeep Patriot, Kia Sportage, etc.

With that in mind, I think hindi ka magkakamali sa Lancer, Elantra or FD in terms of safety. Compared to bigger vehicles sold only in 3rd world countries and wasn't designed to meet international standards of safety, mas magaganda yung tatlong sedans dahil pumasa na iyan ng napakaraming crash tests.

[dr. d]

Sa tingin ko lang po, sa mga bagong sasakyan, hindi naman po nasi laki ang sukatan ng safety niya sa crashes. Mas importante pa rin yung design ng crash structure.

Tingnan niyo po yung ASX, kaliit-liit pero isa siya sa dalawang CUV na pumasa ng small overlap crash test ng IIHS. Talo pa niya ang CR-V, Rav 4 na bago, Jeep Patriot, Kia Sportage, etc.

With that in mind, I think hindi ka magkakamali sa Lancer, Elantra or FD in terms of safety. Compared to bigger vehicles sold only in 3rd world countries and wasn't designed to meet international standards of safety, mas magaganda yung tatlong sedans dahil pumasa na iyan ng napakaraming crash tests.

difficult to judge... like you said, these 3rd world vehicles haven't been crash-tested..
personally, if ever i'm (Heaven forbid!!) involved in a crash, i'd feel safer if i were driving a bigger vehicle.. wasn't there a study sometime in the past, that indicated that in a crash, people driving bigger vehicles tended to suffer less injury than those driving smaller vehicles...?

[TheMikProject]

difficult to judge... like you said, these 3rd world vehicles haven't been crash-tested..
personally, if ever i'm (Heaven forbid!!) involved in a crash, i'd feel safer if i were driving a bigger vehicle.. wasn't there a study sometime in the past, that indicated that in a crash, people driving bigger vehicles tended to suffer less injury than those driving smaller vehicles...?

True, bigger vehicles usually fair better in crashes (imagine a subcompact crashing into a truck) but a small car with a well designed safety system would fair better than a big car with a poorly designed system. (e.g. a small Volvo C30 vs a big, heavy PUV jeepney)

If you really want to know more about a car's safety record, I suggest looking at their safety features and browsing through the sites of various crash testing organizations. (IIHS, Euroncap, ANCAP- you'll see the ratings of a lot of familiar models sold in the country in the Australian NCAP and ASEAN NCAP)

Remember this: Mustang crashing into Adventure in Skyway - [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWa79lW1FcQ"]Mustang & Adventure Skyway Accident - YouTube[/ame]
The Adventure is a bigger vehicle than the Mustang, but the fatalities came from the Adventure.

[jing182]

kakatingin ko lang po ng mga 2nd hand na Focus TDCi, ang taas pa pala ng value hay sayang, sabagay diesel kasi eh tapos ang lakas pa ng makina, pag 2nd po kasi nasa 400-450k lang ang budget ko kasi usually hangang 3 yrs lang pwede i loan ang mga 2nd hand cars not to mention mas malaki ang downpayment (30%)

sa Mirage at Accent, ayaw na pumayag ni misis, maliit daw, ayaw nya daw ma compromise ang safety, kaya compact sedan lang talaga ang bagsak ko, yun Innova pwede din kaso parang masyadong malaki, ako lang naman kasi madalas ang laman, pero tama din naman ang sinasabi nyo sir dr d. mas safe nga naman Innova kaysa compact sedan, pag isapan ko din po ito, pero for now I'm leaning towards compact sedans. Yun ASX gusto ko din yan kaso mahal eh kahit 2nd hand, tapos halos wala pang nabebenta kasi nga very satisfied sila sa ASX nila. Hays! sana kasi i launch na ng Ford yun EcoSport dito sa Pinas malamang papatusin ko kaagad yun heheheh....

[GTi]

The Innova is actually a prudent choice. Its actually similar in length and width to a typical compact sedan. You get extended seating capacity, D4D engine gives decent performance and excellent gas mileage. You also get sturdy underpinnings and surprisingly high flood wading capability.

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[niky]

kakatingin ko lang po ng mga 2nd hand na Focus TDCi, ang taas pa pala ng value hay sayang, sabagay diesel kasi eh tapos ang lakas pa ng makina, pag 2nd po kasi nasa 400-450k lang ang budget ko kasi usually hangang 3 yrs lang pwede i loan ang mga 2nd hand cars not to mention mas malaki ang downpayment (30%)

sa Mirage at Accent, ayaw na pumayag ni misis, maliit daw, ayaw nya daw ma compromise ang safety, kaya compact sedan lang talaga ang bagsak ko, yun Innova pwede din kaso parang masyadong malaki, ako lang naman kasi madalas ang laman, pero tama din naman ang sinasabi nyo sir dr d. mas safe nga naman Innova kaysa compact sedan, pag isapan ko din po ito, pero for now I'm leaning towards compact sedans. Yun ASX gusto ko din yan kaso mahal eh kahit 2nd hand, tapos halos wala pang nabebenta kasi nga very satisfied sila sa ASX nila. Hays! sana kasi i launch na ng Ford yun EcoSport dito sa Pinas malamang papatusin ko kaagad yun heheheh....

Just tell the missus this:

The Mirage has five star safety. Granted, our local Mirage doesn't have stability control, but it's still a five star car. The Innova has no crash-testing data... at all. It's a third-world vehicle, that, based on the Hilux crash test results, would be three stars at best.

Then she says... but the Innova is bigger!

Show her this:

Fifth Gear - Renault Modus v Volvo 940 Crash Test - YouTube

That Volvo is potentially a two or three star car. It's bigger, heavier and has more frontal crush space than the Renault. But you'd be deader in a head-on collision.

That's what crash safety means. No matter how big or how small the car, the stars mean the same thing. Many big pick-ups and AUVs are rated a lowly three stars or less on modern crash tests... and some, like the ancient Adventure and Crosswind, aren't rated at all.

[mojojojo]

What about the Altis, hindi mo ba ito I-consider as one of your options?

[jut703]

Lots of blokes still stuck with the "bigger is always better (or in this case, safer)" mentality.

[viper888]

True, bigger vehicles usually fair better in crashes (imagine a subcompact crashing into a truck) but a small car with a well designed safety system would fair better than a big car with a poorly designed system. (e.g. a small Volvo C30 vs a big, heavy PUV jeepney)

If you really want to know more about a car's safety record, I suggest looking at their safety features and browsing through the sites of various crash testing organizations. (IIHS, Euroncap, ANCAP- you'll see the ratings of a lot of familiar models sold in the country in the Australian NCAP and ASEAN NCAP)

Remember this: Mustang crashing into Adventure in Skyway - Mustang & Adventure Skyway Accident - YouTube
The Adventure is a bigger vehicle than the Mustang, but the fatalities came from the Adventure.

the adventure is not the bigger car
It only weighs 3100 pounds
the mustang on the other hand is a porky 3700 pounds

The big car doesnt always win

[meledson]

The adventure does not have seatbelts or lap belts for every one. major concern ito sa safety. got the innova over the adventure. seatbelts is a major deal breaker for me.

[vinj]

Between the two choices of the TS, i still lean towards the Lancer 1.6L.

For his daily distance though, i think a diesel (Innova/Accent) or a Mirage/new Vios would do well on the fuel budget side.

[b0y37]

Slightly OT..
May kakilala ako na taga Bulacan, tapos everday pumapasok sa Ortigas. Dinadala nya yung City nya hanggang Trinoma, dun na sya nagpapark. Tapos MRT na lang papuntang Ortigas. Baka pwedeng ganun na lang gawin mo sir? Ligtas ka pa sa traffic sa Edsa.

[b0y37]

Pero kung gugustuhin brand new, Elantra nalang ako. Mas naggwapuhan ako eh. Although you won't get wrong with any of the two.

Boss Renzo, iba na ang choice mo ngayon? hehe
http://tsikot.com/forums/car-compari...27/index2.html

[jing182]

Di po pwede sir b0y37, mid shift po ang pasok ko, 3PM - 12AM, anyways tanong ko lang sir ano po daw ang average consumption ng kakilala nyo na naka city?para ok din sya eh, hehehe hala mas lalo ng gumugulo ang isipan ko hehehe sayang din kasi ang 10K PMS interval eh.

[renzo_d10]

Boss Renzo, iba na ang choice mo ngayon? hehe
http://tsikot.com/forums/car-compari...27/index2.html

Nagsawa na ko sa looks ng EX eh. Haha.

Baka kasi dumarami na rin sa kalye.

[Rockyds]

Boss Renzo, iba na ang choice mo ngayon? hehe
http://tsikot.com/forums/car-compari...27/index2.html

Oonga eh ako thread starter jan, at binili ko ang EX dahil sa advice ni Renzo hehehe

Di po pwede sir b0y37, mid shift po ang pasok ko, 3PM - 12AM, anyways tanong ko lang sir ano po daw ang average consumption ng kakilala nyo na naka city?para ok din sya eh, hehehe hala mas lalo ng gumugulo ang isipan ko hehehe sayang din kasi ang 10K PMS interval eh.

Sakto lang pala sa pasok mo sir hindi na masyado traffic ng ganyang time, well traffic ng konte lang naman. Grabe kasi sa EDSA traffic sa umaga. Tapos yung uwi mo maluwag na din, ganda nga ng shift mo eh pang EDSA! hehe

Sa byahe mo ang tancha ko sa FC mo with the EX is 10-12 km/l papasok, while 11-13 km/l pauwi o baka kaya pa 14km/l.

[jing182]

Oonga eh ako thread starter jan, at binili ko ang EX dahil sa advice ni Renzo hehehe

Ganun ba sir Rockyds, mukhang happy naman kayo sa advise ni sir Renzo, paano yan Elantra advise sakin ni sir Renzo, eh di mag Elantra na ko hehehhe joke! syempre pag aaralan ko pa ng mabuti yan, kaya nga i'm very open to everyone's suggestion

[Mikemike07]

Elantra nalang. Para di dumami pa lalo mga lancer. Hehe jk. Pero kung wala ka balak bihisan, elantra nalang. O kaya altis na pearl white. Gandang ganda ako dun eh. Bagay talaga pampamilya. Lancer kasi mukhang pangbinata.

[jing182]

Na consider ko na din po ang altis, kaso masyadong bare yun altis E eto kasi ang ka presyo ng dalawa, pero spec wise ang katapat nun elantra at lancer eh yun altis G, kaso malaki na ang price gap