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    [SIZE=3]Hi everyone! i'm new in the community. i had fun reading other threads and i'm hoping you guys could help me too..

    i'm about to buy a car for my graduation (yey!) but right now, i'm torn between Mazda3 1.6V A/t and Toyota Vios 1.5G A/T. i like both at different ways. sporty vs. classy ride. pros and cons for both models please. i'm super concerned about fuel efficiency. please help. super thanks![/SIZE]

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    I don't own neither of the two but I've been hearing a lot of complaints about Mazda 3 1.6V's fuel efficiency.... they said its disappointing for a 1.6L engine

    on the other hand, I've heard a lot of good feedbacks regarding Vios 1.5's fuel efficiency, even my officemate who has a Vios 1.5 is very happy this cars fuel economy.

    Hands down Mazda 3 is the much better looking than the Vios, but it will all come down to what you really want.

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    2007 Mazda3 (facelift)

    -1.6 li engine is really inadequate for its size
    - no manual transmission
    - not so thrifty fuel consumption
    - driver airbag only
    - donut spare tire

    + bigger body than Vios
    + better suspension than Vios
    + larger trunk space
    + nice handling car


    2007 Vios (recently launched all new body, but same old engine and transmission)

    + thrifty fuel consumption by engines [1.5li (1NZ-FE) and 1.3li (2NZ-FE)]
    + suprisingly spacious (legroom) esp. for rear passengers.

    -a bit overpriced (IMO) - [the 1.5G and 1.3E). The 1.3J has the most value.
    -noisy cabin (loud engine revving noise evident)
    -4 spd automatic transmission needs improvement
    - steel rims spare tire for 1.5G and 1.3E. But this is better than the donut spare in the Mazda3.
    -Very plasticky door panels.
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    Go for the mazda3 (on white please). I still prefer it's styling and perks over the new vios, that is if you don't consider FC that much.

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    the comparison is a little bit off, the other one is a sub-compact and the other is a compact.

    the M3 of course has lots of amenities, has bigger space and has a bigger engine. and it looks good too.

    the Vios is smaller, amenities are fewer than the M3 and has a smaller and more fuel efficient engine.

    i personally like the exteriors as well as the interiors of the M3. fogee talaga. reliability wise, Toyotas are have a little bit of edge. i am not saying na pagka Toyota, walang problem ha? meron at meron pa din yan.

    and i think Toyotas have a little bit of edge too as far as resale value is concerned.

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    It's the Mazda3 for me (even with the facelift of the Vios). The only thing going against it is its engine (or lack of a manual transmission) which translates to a poorer fuel consumption when compared to the Vios.

    The Vios uses some really cheap interior plastic, the driver's seat is still cramped and after a while there will be like a million units out there in EDSA. If you aren't picky about the looks, the City is still a better buy (though the Jazz 1.5 M/T is the best buy).

    Reliability is almost the same for both manufacturers (the Vios here in our company with less than 15K km in it already has some clutch slipping problem on the other hand I've seen a Mazda3 with a erratic idling problem).

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    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    2007 Mazda3 (facelift)

    -1.6 li engine is really inadequate for its size
    - no manual transmission
    - not so thrifty fuel consumption
    - driver airbag only
    - donut spare tire

    + bigger body than Vios
    + better suspension than Vios
    + larger trunk space
    + nice handling car


    2007 Vios (recently launched all new body, but same old engine and transmission)

    + thrifty fuel consumption by engines [1.5li (1NZ-FE) and 1.3li (2NZ-FE)]
    + suprisingly spacious (legroom) esp. for rear passengers.

    -a bit overpriced (IMO) - [the 1.5G and 1.3E). The 1.3J has the most value.
    -noisy cabin (loud engine revving noise evident)
    -4 spd automatic transmission needs improvement
    - steel rims spare tire for 1.5G and 1.3E. But this is better than the donut spare in the Mazda3.
    -Very plasticky door panels.
    For the V version its driverside + passenger side airbags.

    If you are concerned much about the fuel efficiency ditch the Mazda 4 Door. Why don't you toss in the hatch version w/c is also V spec? I believe mas matipid sya kesa sa V model na 4 door.

    Civic ayaw mo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by a4Tech View Post

    Civic ayaw mo?
    my mom is encouraging me to go for civic too. pros cons for civic po?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AprilEarthshine View Post
    my mom is encouraging me to go for civic too. pros cons for civic po?
    Hi there! though, it's a bit off topic and there are lots of threads w/c concerns your inquiry, here goes:

    Pro(s):
    Probably the next bench mark for compact sedan today.

    Power? Both the 1.8V/S or 2.0S/S-L boasts enough Hp and torque to tackle all different kinds of situation (daily drive or spirited/fun) and demolish any ricer(racer wannabes) on the road.

    Looks, two years ago, the civic's was being questioned and/or hardly acceptable by people. Today, it's one of the most striking and appreciated design there is. FYI, you can/may even put 20 inch mags on your civic and still run on it (though not practical). There are lots of nice bodykit available almost anywhere, even the casa provided Modulo kits are pretty. May it be JDM (yo!), USDM or EuDM, different looks will never dissapoint you. Or just go stock and clean all the way, it still looks cool. (get the red one! )

    Cockpit. Yes you saw it right, Cockpit. The civic's panels and gauges were intentionally designed to imitate of that a jet fighter plane with all the digital instrumentations (w/c really work) and panels. Although, for first time drivers (if you are), may need a little bit of adjustment since you will never see your hood up front. It's effective trust me, there are lots of female drivers out there and nobody is complaining (yet). I even saw a grandma drove her civic in one of my trips to my dealership for servicing.

    Comfort. Today, The Civic boasts class leading cabin space which usually is comparable to luxury level (almost). The suspension can/may deal with most of the road conditions (depending on the current status of the civic, setup or not).

    Fuel Economy, well, on my personal experience, I have to say, expect compact sedan FC (don't compare Compact to Sub compact, it's on a different league and philosophy). The Civic boasts Fuel Efficiency with its 1.8 R18 i-VTEC SOHC engine which delivers near to 1.5 sub-compact car level FC, Tested and proven specially on Highway trips.

    Entertainment. The civic has pretty decent Audio system that will make you happy, Just don't expect audiophile level audio setups (aftermarket) with those SQs and SPLs.

    Safety. The FD Civic have SRS (airbags, both front driver and passenger for S models up), 3 channel digital controlled ABS (anti-lock Braking system) and a LSD (Limited Slip Differential), and passed Collision standards abroad.

    Resale value, the Filipino market tends to go biased on Honda Brands, so expect it to be still high after 5-7 years.

    Well that's it. That's an overview of what a civic is on text. I'll also suggest as sir niky said previously that a test drive is the go. But on this comparison, Get the Mazda3 if you don't mind the fuel consumption, that's all there is to it.

    Good day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by a4Tech View Post

    Civic ayaw mo?
    my mom is encouraging me to go for civic too. they said it has high re-sale value. pros cons for civic po?

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