Help... I will buy a new honda(1.5 or 1.3 city,jazz)

[masterjoe619]

Hi po newbie po ako d2 but matagal ko ng alam tong site na 'to since 2003 pa. D2 ako nagbase sa mga post nyo tungkol sa Khaoz at City vs Vios. Muntik na kasi kami mabiktima ng khaoz kaya salamat sa mga post nyo.

May mga cars po kami pero luma na (Nissan Sunny, Toyota Corrola 94, Toyota lite ace, Volkswagen) and yung lite ace lang ang nadrive ko kasi gamit ng mga tito ko yung iba and sa lolo ko yung van and his already dead at sa akin napunta and wala po ako masyadong knowledge so pag may problema babasa ako ng thread d2 at VVAVVAVOOM! Solve ang problema! Maraming salamat po!

I will now buy my first car (syempre brand new) and I need your help masters. Ito po pinagpipiliin ko:

1. Honda Jazz 1.3 or 1.5
2. Honda City 1.3 or 1.5

Tinanggal ko na po sa listahan ko yung VIOS and M3 kasi kung Vios pang-taxi tignan (peace po this is only my opinion ) at pag Mazda3 naman although maganda, aggressive pero magastos naman sa gasolina (just being practical folks).

Masters Tanong ko po:

1. Ano po ba mas fuel efficient yung 1.3 or 1.5? Syempre Jazz ang panalo and I don't care po sa speed kasi safe driver po ako(60-80km/h). Yung may City at Jazz owners po pwede po ba ipost nyo yung Fuel consumtion nyo? Mahilig kasi ako Magstroll.

2. If City or Jazz ang mapili ko, balak ko pong pa-gullwing yung doors and palagyan ng hydraulics(ala lowrider ni eddie) san po ba pwede magpainstall and how much? My budget is 1M. Naglalaro po ako ng Need for speed sa PS2 at may level yung hydraulics, level 1,2,3 ganun po b a talaga yun o sa game lng?Level 3 yung hydraulics ko sa Peugeot ko sa game.

3. Sa tingin nyo ano mas "chick magnet" yung City or Jazz? Sabi ng girlfriend ko City daw pero sabi ng Mamush ko Jazz daw. Yung bang maiinlove yung girl sa car at madaling "makapangisda" sa West dyan sa QC. hehehe

4. Taga Antipolo po ako and san po ba the best bumili at pwede matawaran ng malaki at syempre accomodating ang mga agents? Shaw? Marikina? Caloocan? Pasig?

5. Ano po ba mas tahimik Vtec o idsi? Since pupunta naman ako ng honda malalaman ko rin but I need your experiences masters.


Sa Color ako nang bahala and matatawaran ba ng malaki pag Cash? At dun ako sa CVT.
Thank you po.

[niky]

1. Ano po ba mas fuel efficient yung 1.3 or 1.5? Syempre Jazz ang panalo and I don't care po sa speed kasi safe driver po ako(60-80km/h). Yung may City at Jazz owners po pwede po ba ipost nyo yung Fuel consumtion nyo? Mahilig kasi ako Magstroll.

The 1.3. The 1.5 is relatively fuel efficient, but the 1.3 is still better.

2. If City or Jazz ang mapili ko, balak ko pong pa-gullwing yung doors and palagyan ng hydraulics(ala lowrider ni eddie) san po ba pwede magpainstall and how much? My budget is 1M. Naglalaro po ako ng Need for speed sa PS2 at may level yung hydraulics, level 1,2,3 ganun po b a talaga yun o sa game lng?Level 3 yung hydraulics ko sa Peugeot ko sa game.

It's not as simple as in video games. You can buy hydraulics, period. If you want fancy systems with more jump, you buy more expensive hydraulics. You can look up "Joker"... his shop is near Minerva Tire Center inside Westgate Alabang (it's the restaurant and shop strip between Festival Mall and Alabang Town Center).

I don't really know if the Jazz/City has enough space for the mechanisms associated with this mod... and be warned... they might have to cut up your car to do this. That's why most "lowriders" are old cars, as it's not as worrying to cut them up. If all you want is simple lowering, you can get lowering springs and sports shocks for the Jazz, cheap. If you want adjustability, you can get adjustable shocks and an in-cabin controller... but this won't give you height adjustability on-the-fly... you'll still have to adjust the spring mounts from the outside. Adjustable coil-overs should cost less than 100k pesos.

Gullwing doors... again, I don't know if there's enough space on the Jazz or City to install these. There are local vendors who will do it, but I don't remember the prices.

If your overall budget is 1m, It might all fit... as long as you get the 1.3 only.

If you want to do such destructive mods to the car, better to buy a secondhand earlier model. I'm not sure if gullwings and hydraulics are irreversible mods, but I'm pretty sure they're going to leave some holes in the bodywork. Hmmm... if you're set on cutting things, why not try suicide doors? Have the fronts normal and the rears open "suicide-style"... be much cooler and more "OEM" looking.

Personally? If you get a brand-new vehicle, stick to coilovers, mags and sounds. Even just 15" and 16" mags look terrific on the Jazz, and there's lots of space in the trunk for a great sound set-up. If you want, you might still have enough left over for a turbo kit... I think SpeedLab is finalizing a mass-market version of their Jazz turbo-kit. Cost will hopefully be under 150k (and that's all new stuff... no surplus)

3. Sa tingin nyo ano mas "chick magnet" yung City or Jazz? Sabi ng girlfriend ko City daw pero sabi ng Mamush ko Jazz daw. Yung bang maiinlove yung girl sa car at madaling "makapangisda" sa West dyan sa QC. hehehe

Jazz. Definitely.

4. Taga Antipolo po ako and san po ba the best bumili at pwede matawaran ng malaki at syempre accomodating ang mga agents? Shaw? Marikina? Caloocan? Pasig?

Don't know. Let's wait for the others to chime in.

5. Ano po ba mas tahimik Vtec o idsi? Since pupunta naman ako ng honda malalaman ko rin but I need your experiences masters.

Same same. The VTEC is a bit more growly at high rpms, but that's about it. I could be imagining this, though.

Sa Color ako nang bahala and matatawaran ba ng malaki pag Cash? At dun ako sa CVT.
Thank you po.

Usually you can get something off, but most dealerships make extra money through financing schemes, so they're not likely to give you much.

[hitomi]

Masters Tanong ko po:

1. Ano po ba mas fuel efficient yung 1.3 or 1.5? Syempre Jazz ang panalo and I don't care po sa speed kasi safe driver po ako(60-80km/h). Yung may City at Jazz owners po pwede po ba ipost nyo yung Fuel consumtion nyo? Mahilig kasi ako Magstroll.

2. If City or Jazz ang mapili ko, balak ko pong pa-gullwing yung doors and palagyan ng hydraulics(ala lowrider ni eddie) san po ba pwede magpainstall and how much? My budget is 1M. Naglalaro po ako ng Need for speed sa PS2 at may level yung hydraulics, level 1,2,3 ganun po b a talaga yun o sa game lng?Level 3 yung hydraulics ko sa Peugeot ko sa game.

3. Sa tingin nyo ano mas "chick magnet" yung City or Jazz? Sabi ng girlfriend ko City daw pero sabi ng Mamush ko Jazz daw. Yung bang maiinlove yung girl sa car at madaling "makapangisda" sa West dyan sa QC. hehehe

4. Taga Antipolo po ako and san po ba the best bumili at pwede matawaran ng malaki at syempre accomodating ang mga agents? Shaw? Marikina? Caloocan? Pasig?

5. Ano po ba mas tahimik Vtec o idsi? Since pupunta naman ako ng honda malalaman ko rin but I need your experiences masters.


Sa Color ako nang bahala and matatawaran ba ng malaki pag Cash? At dun ako sa CVT.
Thank you po.

1. makinig kay sir niky hehe, mas fuel efficient ang 1.3

2. mahirap magpa-gullwing doors. scissor doors nalang, para hindi gaanong magalaw bodywork. hydraulics sa jazz/city? di po ata bagay, ikli at maliit kasi nila, parang nababawasan yung drama/effect. opinion ko lang naman po

3. jazz ang chick magnet (pero may girlfriend ka na di ba? hehe)

4. tama yung sabi ni sir niky, kuripot magtawad ang honda. nung tumingin kami ng city sa alabang 10k lang disount at tint lang ang libre pag cash. sabi nung ahente talagang mahal ang presyo dahil high-quality naman daw at nakikita kong proud sila dun.

5. di na issue ang engine noise, sa galing nila mag-design ng makina ngayon. kahit yung diesel ng bmw o audi parang gas engine na din.

HTH

[krazeyrock]

additional info lang po... kung cvt ang kukunin ninyo mas maganda po yung jazz kasi nasa steering po yung controls ng parang sport mode ng cvt... kung gusto mo mag change sa first to the last gear... parang video game...

i had an opportunity to test drive one. mas spacious din ang jazz pagdating sa cargo, just try to fold the rear seats to see it...

kung papamodify mo lang din, go for a second hand vehicle... I think mavovoid yung warranty mo pag nagpamodify ka according to what you have listed. Yung sa magwheels nga lang pag nagpalit ka under warranty ay mavovoid na yung warranty ng suspension mo... di ko lang sure kung sa lahat ng car dealers ganito.

[masterjoe619]

The 1.3. The 1.5 is relatively fuel efficient, but the 1.3 is still better.



It's not as simple as in video games. You can buy hydraulics, period. If you want fancy systems with more jump, you buy more expensive hydraulics. You can look up "Joker"... his shop is near Minerva Tire Center inside Westgate Alabang (it's the restaurant and shop strip between Festival Mall and Alabang Town Center).

Gullwing doors... again, I don't know if there's enough space on the Jazz or City to install these. There are local vendors who will do it, but I don't remember the prices.

If your overall budget is 1m, It might all fit... as long as you get the 1.3 only.

Thank you po sir for your reply. Hindi na po ako magpapagullwing but i'll still go for the exterior set-up for the Jazz (Jazz 1.3 kukunin ko na po) and 1m po yung budget ko for the set-up

If you want to do such destructive mods to the car, better to buy a secondhand earlier model. I'm not sure if gullwings and hydraulics are irreversible mods, but I'm pretty sure they're going to leave some holes in the bodywork. Hmmm... if you're set on cutting things, why not try suicide doors? Have the fronts normal and the rears open "suicide-style"... be much cooler and more "OEM" looking..

Suicide doors? Grabe naman yun.

Personally? If you get a brand-new vehicle, stick to coilovers, mags and sounds. Even just 15" and 16" mags look terrific on the Jazz, and there's lots of space in the trunk for a great sound set-up. If you want, you might still have enough left over for a turbo kit... I think SpeedLab is finalizing a mass-market version of their Jazz turbo-kit. Cost will hopefully be under 150k (and that's all new stuff... no surplus)

Ok Sir ganyan na lang po ang gagawin ko. Pero sir ok ba yung scissors door for my Jazz? Sa banawe po ba mas mura bumili ng exterior accesorries?

[masterjoe619]

additional info lang po... kung cvt ang kukunin ninyo mas maganda po yung jazz kasi nasa steering po yung controls ng parang sport mode ng cvt... kung gusto mo mag change sa first to the last gear... parang video game...

i had an opportunity to test drive one. mas spacious din ang jazz pagdating sa cargo, just try to fold the rear seats to see it...

kung papamodify mo lang din, go for a second hand vehicle... I think mavovoid yung warranty mo pag nagpamodify ka according to what you have listed. Yung sa magwheels nga lang pag nagpalit ka under warranty ay mavovoid na yung warranty ng suspension mo... di ko lang sure kung sa lahat ng car dealers ganito.

Sir I'll go for the Jazz na para kasing "JOYSTICK" dun kasi yung controls. Exterior set-up na lng po ako and I'm sure that it will not void the 3 year warranty.

[mazdamazda]

Errr... I don't get it... you want a fuel-efficient vehicle but you are willing to blow 1 million pesos on exterior aesthetics?

Just get the new Hyundai Coupe if you want a good looking vehicle.

[BlueBimmer]

fd civic fd civic!!!!!

[bonzai buddy]

...go for jazz

[IMm29]

I'd rather you got the 1.5L Jazz, so you'd still have a little more OOMPH!! considering you'd be loading it with quite a lot of mods.

[kimpOy]

Jazz 1.5

keep it simple and keep it clean
pa SQ mo na lang and buy mags na "bagay"
wag na masyadong borloloy... trust me in the long magsasawa ka rin...

wala sa car ang pagka "chickmagnet"

[Galactus]

If you have 1M to spend, why not get the FD Civic? Although 1.8 ang makina, its very fuel efficient. Also, its more of a chick magnet than the Jazz, and mas magandang iset-up

[masterjoe619]

Sa ngayun Jazz 1.5 ang nasa isip ko tapus keep it clean na lang and buy fancy mags and scissors door kung gusto nyo.

Civic? Fuel efficient din ba yun? Pwede po ba pa post ng fuel consumption ng Civic 1.8 vs Jazz 1.5?

Thank you po sa mga reply

[niky]

The 1.8 is fuel efficient... supposedly as good as the 1.5 Jazz, but from anecdotal reports... so-so lang... pretty good, but not Jazz-league.

The Civic is a nice car to "porma", but the lack of tumble-down rear seats limits your audio options.

[masterjoe619]

Thanks master niky. I've read that there is an un-official Honda Civic na pumasok sa Petron Xtra mile challenge at nabreak din nya yung record ni Mister P.R. Dun naman sa challenge na yun ginamitan nila ng driving techniques. Meron po bang makakapagpost ng Fuel consumption ng Civic 1.8 auto tranny with econ set ang aircon?

[masterjoe619]

Scissors door pala. Ok ba sa Jazz or sa Civic mga masters? Saan pwede palagay? Banawe?

[masterjoe619]

Kung 9-10 km/L ang Civic sa Jazz na ako. I'm not sure kasi kaya kung may Civic 1.8 owners dyan pwede po ba pa post ng fuel consumption

[iiinaslao]

Kung 9-10 km/L ang Civic sa Jazz na ako. I'm not sure kasi kaya kung may Civic 1.8 owners dyan pwede po ba pa post ng fuel consumption

ang alam ko sa civic 1.8 a.t. around 10-12 km/li.

[masterjoe619]

ang alam ko sa civic 1.8 a.t. around 10-12 km/li.

Sir yung City nyo ano fuel consumption?
Yung Fuel cons din po ng Jazz kung sino meron pa post din po.

[masterjoe619]

yung scissors din pala saan? magkano?