2011 STI sedan vs. Lancer Ralliart vs. GC

[kian2x]

Patulong po I plan to buy a sports car for mid class and asian brand. I prefered the NEW 2011 STI sedan, Lancer Ralliart and Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8.


My qualifications for my new car:
1. Good Engine reliability and new innovative transmission
2. Fuel Efficient (fuel consumption)
3. Good Suspension
4. More aerodynamic body
5. performance
6. Budget (under 2.7M)

i highly consider all your comments, suggestions,and feedbacks...
it really helped me a lot to deside which is the best of them all..
BTW im a business man 38yrs old,,really want to engaged to a sport car feeling,,sawa na sa diesel at luxury type sedan which is both MABAGAL
my present cars are 2010 ford EVEREST 4x4 and 2002 OPEL OMEGA

[renzo_d10]

Ayaw mo ng STi hatch ? Cause IMO, the sedan counterpart of the Impreza doesn't look like anything near sporty. It's merely just a normal sedan, for me. Wherein, in the hatchback, you can feel the aggressiveness of the vehicle ....

On the ralliart thing, won't you even consider an EVO X ?

Anyways, my vote would be ... ( in order )

1. Subaru Impreza STi HATCH
2. Lancer Ralliart ( if this is going to be an EVO X, make this the 1st one )
3. Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8

;)

[locoroco777]

Medyo disagree ako ngayon kay brother renz...

I say if you want to pursue with subaru get the impreza sedan STi....I never really like the idea of it going buttless in the first place thats why I was truly dissapointed when the first new generation STi was launched....

if your planning to get the Lancer ralliart naman...as what bro renzo said...I think konting himas nalang sa bank account pwede ka na mag Evo X...but still...the ralliart variant can be a great one to consider if you don't want to exceed your budget....Its the closest thing you can get to an evo X because of those performance toys and with that price...

for the GC naman, well, yeah, ok sya but IMHO 2 door kasi....so if assuming if you have a family and you want them to feel some adrenaline mas ok parin if you have a sedan... Plus, the 3.8 V6 hasn't prove anything yet in the racing scene where is unlike the other 2 brands, history is written all over it...especially with the boxer engine...and with the lancer's 4b11T's relatively young engine design.... if my memory serves me right it already has been used in a handful of rally races since its launch in 2007 abroad so I can say it has proven its worth already..

Hope it helps...

[kian2x]

thanks sir locoroco777, sir ocdmonochrome and sir renzo_d10...

all your comments are highly considered mga boss..

on the side of sir RENZ,,i consired also the HATCH..sa una tlga patay na patay ako sa hatch...e nung one time nka kita ako red 2.0 sedan sa SLEX
i think im in love with it Sooo much...

you can post some pics of the mods para makapagdeside me kung ano sa kanila pinaka madaling mabilhan ng mods...

[renzo_d10]

^

Hehehe. Sa totoo lang, ayoko ng current generation Impreza ... siguro kung 2.0R, pwede pa. Pero kung STi, I`ll think about it.

Kasi kung STi naman talaga gusto ko, I`ll opt for the 07`s. Mas aggressive looking, mas maganda, simply perfect.

Teka teka, ano ba itsura ng 2011 STi sedan, never seen one yet.

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07 STi


GOT WHP ?

[Starex_Gold]

Renzo,




Mas makisig pa yung hatch..

[renzo_d10]

Some few modded vehicles ... courtesy of Speedlab.







385whp on all four wheels.

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Lancer EVO.





325 whp and 305 lb ft torque

[actor21]

sa itsura vote ko sa lancer ralliart..pero wala ba mazda speed 3 dito? i think this one of the best sports hatch..

[kian2x]

Some few modded vehicles ... courtesy of Speedlab.







385whp on all four wheels.

--

Lancer EVO.





325 whp and 305 lb ft torque

Wow Parehas maganda...
sir di ba 2.0 R lang ung subaru na un?? magkano po kya inabot magpa power boost sa speed lab? WTH..385 HP?? amazing mas matulin pa EVO?? BTW ilan na po torque nung 2.0 R na un??

And full specs?? im very in terested...PROS and CONS din if mag papaconvert

[renzo_d10]

Wow Parehas maganda...
sir di ba 2.0 R lang ung subaru na un?? magkano po kya inabot magpa power boost sa speed lab? WTH..385 HP?? amazing mas matulin pa EVO?? BTW ilan na po torque nung 2.0 R na un??

And full specs?? im very in terested...PROS and CONS din if mag papaconvert

No, WRX yan. But it was given a name : " STi killer "

Modifications are as follows ...

Engine:
Garrett GT3071 Turbocharger
BOK Pipes Header
BOK Pipes Downpipe
SpeedLab Front Mount Intercooler
Custom Aluminum Piping
Custom 3" Midpipe
Custom 3" Inlet Pipe
Silicon Hose Adaptors
T Bolt Clamps
AVO Blow Off Valve
K&N Intake
Cusco Oil Catch Can
HKS Hiper Muffler
HKS Oil Cap
HKS Radiator Cap

Suspension & Brakes
Brembo Brake Conversion
Runstop Slotted Rotors
Emotion Coilovers
Ultra Racing Upper Strut Bar

Exterior
Z Works Wrap Around Kit
Z Works Vented Hood
Z Works Rear Spoiler
Smoked Tail Lights
Racing Tow Hook
Volk Racing CE28 19x8 Wheels
Nitto NT555 235/35 R19

Interior
Pioneer Head Unit
ScanGaugeII
ARC Shitknob
Defi BF Boost Gauge
Defi BF EGT Gauge
Defi BF Water Temp
Defi Control Link

Torque is at 377 lb ft.

Engine mods alone ranges from 370 - 400k.

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Brembo Brakes with Runstop Rotors



Side profile

[kian2x]

Some few modded vehicles ... courtesy of Speedlab.







385whp on all four wheels.

--

Lancer EVO.





325 whp and 305 lb ft torque

now i notice this WRX (modified by SPEED LAB) could kill STi and EVO in both stock condion..but still in cheaper of the two...wow

sir RENZ is this already proven? what is its top speed??

according to you..can it beat the STi and EVO in both stock by this WRX??

[foresterx]

now i notice this WRX (modified by SPEED LAB) could kill STi and EVO in both stock condion..but still in cheaper of the two...wow

sir RENZ is this already proven? what is its top speed??

according to you..can it beat the STi and EVO in both stock by this WRX??

no it won't, it will only win on a drag race. but the STi and EVO isn't just a one trick car. i've seen and known so many wrx owner who claims that they can make their wrx faster than an STi and spend less on the track, all of them failed. you can only make a wrx faster on a straight line but it won't out handle the STi or EVO or make the wrx out handle the STi and EVO but won't be faster. you'll be spending a lot more just to make it as fast as the STi and evo on the track. all though it is true that you'll be spending less on the wrx to make it faster than an STi on a quarter mile, but that's just plain stupid to buy a wrx and STi or even an evo just to drag race it. the hyundai gc would be a much better drag car and much cheaper.

[ocdmonochrome]

Hindi magkalevel ang STi & Ralliart in terms of performance, pero locally sa presyo hindi nagkakalayo.

Re: fuel efficiency, lahat sila makonsumo. Sports cars kasi sila boss, sakit na talaga nila iyan. STi ng classmate ko before 4.x km/L if I remember correctly, 70% city/30% expressway, racing mode whenever possible.

Re: suspension, STi & Evo parehong matagtag. Well, kapag hataw ang patakbo dapat lang na ramdam mo yung road. Hindi pa ako nakasakay ng Ralliart, pero WRX mas forgiving. 230+ hp ito, so mabilis narin.

Re: performance, mas type ko Evo, so kung Ralliart vs. WRX baka maging pareho lang observation ko. Pero since STi vs. Ralliart, STi na kasi mas mataas naman class nito to begin with.

Re: aerodynamics, no idea.

Re: engine/reliability in general, depende sa gamit. Kung racing mode parati, since stressed ang components, magiging mas maaga ang palit ng parts. Kaya if you'll notice 1 yr. warranty lang ang STi. Ang assumption most probably ng MI aabusuhin.

1. STi
2. Ralliart
3. Genesis

[ghosthunter]

Patulong po I plan to buy a sports car for mid class and asian brand. I prefered the NEW 2011 STI sedan, Lancer Ralliart and Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8.


My qualifications for my new car:
1. Good Engine reliability and new innovative transmission
2. Fuel Efficient (fuel consumption)
3. Good Suspension
4. More aerodynamic body
5. performance
6. Budget (under 2.7M)

i highly consider all your comments, suggestions,and feedbacks...
it really helped me a lot to deside which is the best of them all..
BTW im a business man 38yrs old,,really want to engaged to a sport car feeling,,sawa na sa diesel at luxury type sedan which is both MABAGAL

my present cars are 2010 ford EVEREST 4x4 and 2002 OPEL OMEGA

From how you describe yourself, I might think you may not want a "purist" sports car. You would want something that would give you the taste of a sports/performance car but still have "practicality" of a car that can be driven daily.

My suggestion: Mitsubishi Lancer EX Ralliart.



237hp engine with a six speed DCT transmission and AWD would give you that rush of power & performance, yet the paddle-shift ease of driving it in traffic without wearing out your left leg.

The Lancer EX Ralliart's aggressive look would give you that feel of satisfaction of "intimidation" on the road and in your garage.


PRICELIST:
http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/u...UPricelist.jpg

[kian2x]

From how you describe yourself, I might think you may not want a "purist" sports car. You would want something that would give you the taste of a sports/performance car but still have "practicality" of a car that can be driven daily.

My suggestion: Mitsubishi Lancer EX Ralliart.



237hp engine with a six speed DCT transmission and AWD would give you that rush of power & performance, yet the paddle-shift ease of driving it in traffic without wearing out your left leg.

The Lancer EX Ralliart's aggressive look would give you that feel of satisfaction of "intimidation" on the road and in your garage.


PRICELIST:
http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/u...UPricelist.jpg

thanks sir Ghosthunter....tumpak ka sir ,that was i need a sportscar feeling in a convenient and practical use not a gasguzzler but can perform and match those german counterparts in closest....

[ocdmonochrome]

WRX = P 1,728,000
Ralliart = P 2,348,000
Difference = P 620,000

Same class sila, pero check mo price difference. Hindi lang ako sure kung mas loaded ba ang Ralliart. Pero kahit na, ang dami mo ng magagawa sa amount na iyan. :thumbup:

[ghosthunter]

WRX = P 1,728,000
Ralliart = P 2,348,000
Difference = P 620,000

Same class sila, pero check mo price difference. Hindi lang ako sure kung mas loaded ba ang Ralliart. Pero kahit na, ang dami mo ng magagawa sa amount na iyan. :thumbup:

Kindly note:

Lancer EX RA (standard) = P1,998,000 (after dealer discounts)

Lancer EX RA (limited) = P1,948,000 (after dealer discounts)

Taken from: http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/u...UPricelist.jpg

[renzo_d10]

^ Ohwow. Not bad considering that it's price is very close to the 3.8L of the GC's.

[foresterx]

the STi is in a totally different class compared to lancer ra and the gc. if you can afford it get the STi na, just remember that the cost of maintenance of the STi would be much much more expensive than lancer ra and the gc. lancer ra against a wrx, wrx parin ako, lancer ra isn't just as performance oriented compared to wrx and STi. if you test drive both the lancer ra and the wrx you'll see what i mean.

ito top list ko pag bumili ako sports car.
1. STi/evo
2. WRX
3. hyundai gc/ legacy gt
4. lancer ra

[zner2525]

from the choices.. in order.. (1 as the most liked)
1.) Subaru Impreza STI
2.) Mitsu Ralliart
3.) Genesis Coupe 3.8 (mas gusto ko kasi yung 2.0T)

sa choices mo, pinakamaganda talaga yung STI (most especially the sedan for me.. dati mas gusto ko yung hatch, pero mas aggressive tignan yung wide body sedan ng STi for me) kasi competitor siya ng EVO.. kaya kung EVO ang nasa choices mo, performance wise, EVO na siyempre.. although I like the STi more.. dont know why?

kung WRX naman, you can reach more of the STi with same price.. and WRX can beat the STi "in a straight line" siguro, but not on the track.. (sabi nila..) bakit kasi mas mahal ang 2.5L turbo ng STi, sa 2.5L turbo ng WRX? its because of the internals..

sa GC naman.. talagang GWAPO lang talaga.. haha! wala na tayong magagawa diyan.. sa ngayon, wala pang napapatunayan ang GC compared sa history ng dalawa mong competitors.. naguumpisa palang ang hyundai..

Good Luck!!