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    mga sir ano po kaya magandang bilhin sa budget kung 500k 2nd hand lng kung auv or suv ba. pang family use lang at pwede e byahe ng malayo.

    ang gusto kung piliin ay:

    * toyota revo diesel- timing chain ba ito or gear?
    * mitsubishi adventure-
    * pajero 2.8- malakas din ba ito sa diesel?
    * innova diesel- mahal ba maintenance nito?
    * at baka may ma recommend sa akin na iba.

    sana yung matipid sa diesel, hindi mahal ang parts, maganda pang long distance na byahe at hindi masyado matagtag. sana po matulongan nyo po ako sa pagpili. meron naman kaming ngayong isuzu trooper na 1992 model kaso ang lakas sa diesel kasi automatic ito at gusto na namin palitan ito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhunter View Post
    mga sir ano po kaya magandang bilhin sa budget kung 500k 2nd hand lng kung auv or suv ba. pang family use lang at pwede e byahe ng malayo.

    ang gusto kung piliin ay:

    * toyota revo diesel- timing chain ba ito or gear?
    * mitsubishi adventure-
    * pajero 2.8- malakas din ba ito sa diesel?
    * innova diesel- mahal ba maintenance nito?
    * at baka may ma recommend sa akin na iba.

    sana yung matipid sa diesel, hindi mahal ang parts, maganda pang long distance na byahe at hindi masyado matagtag. sana po matulongan nyo po ako sa pagpili. meron naman kaming ngayong isuzu trooper na 1992 model kaso ang lakas sa diesel kasi automatic ito at gusto na namin palitan ito.
    A Pajero 2.8's fuel consumption wouldn't be very far off from a 3.1 Trooper, given that both are matic, and in the same condition.

    Both Revo and Adventure diesel are belt driven, while the Crosswind is timing gear.

    An Innova D4D's routine maintenance is pretty similar to an old school diesel's. It's just that parts can get quite expensive if something like the turbo or injection system falls apart.

    If you want something comfortable, perhaps you can get the Starex. Manual transmission only, if you're particular about fuel efficiency.

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    if it is possible to replace your trooper's AT box with a MT box, baka tumipid sa krudo...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if it is possible to replace your trooper's AT box with a MT box, baka tumipid sa krudo...?
    Plan ko rin sana pa convert from a/t to m/t kaso ang mahal aabot ng 100k labor and materials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    A Pajero 2.8's fuel consumption wouldn't be very far off from a 3.1 Trooper, given that both are matic, and in the same condition.

    Both Revo and Adventure diesel are belt driven, while the Crosswind is timing gear.

    An Innova D4D's routine maintenance is pretty similar to an old school diesel's. It's just that parts can get quite expensive if something like the turbo or injection system falls apart.

    If you want something comfortable, perhaps you can get the Starex. Manual transmission only, if you're particular about fuel efficiency.

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    Crosswind din sana kaso mahal pa yung mga 2nd hand. Maganda din sana ang starex kaso ayaw rin ng mga kapatid ko kasi ginagamit sa mga ganyan.. Hmm alam nyo na. Pero may nakita rin akong new model na starex ewan ko lang kung kaya ba sa budget ko yun.

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    sa budget mo, makakakuha ka na ng good condition revo, adventure, even innova. kaunting tiyaga lang..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    sa budget mo, makakakuha ka na ng good condition revo, adventure, even innova. kaunting tiyaga lang..
    agree sa innova.... meron nang ganyan sa budget mo.....so that should be your first option.
    second option would be an adventure.

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    2012 Kia Carens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhunter View Post
    Crosswind din sana kaso mahal pa yung mga 2nd hand. Maganda din sana ang starex kaso ayaw rin ng mga kapatid ko kasi ginagamit sa mga ganyan.. Hmm alam nyo na. Pero may nakita rin akong new model na starex ewan ko lang kung kaya ba sa budget ko yun.

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    Alam mo bro kasi kung gusto mo na kumportable lahat ng pasahero mo, Starex talaga dapat. Kung AUV o SUV pwede nga makasakay ng sampo pero siksikan naman at matagtag.

    Ang Starex kasi hindi matagtag at merong space talaga for ten full sized adults. Yung dimensions nya hindi pa malaki. Similar lang sa typical midsize SUV. Bakit nga nila ayaw to? Starex GRX CRDi pasok na sa budget mo.

    Pwede ang mga AUV, pero significant downgrade yan galing sa Trooper. Baka manibago ka sa kupad.

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    Maninibago ka sa AUV kung naka trooper ka
    Back to topic
    Innova J lang na 2005 pasok sa 500k and E
    croswind xuv/xuvi 2002-04
    revo ok din mura ang bentahan ng revo ngayon (madaming gas na revo kaya nakakalito)
    lumang starex pwede pa nga yung 4X4 na starex

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhunter View Post
    mga sir ano po kaya magandang bilhin sa budget kung 500k 2nd hand lng kung auv or suv ba. pang family use lang at pwede e byahe ng malayo.

    ang gusto kung piliin ay:

    * toyota revo diesel- timing chain ba ito or gear?
    * mitsubishi adventure-
    * pajero 2.8- malakas din ba ito sa diesel?
    * innova diesel- mahal ba maintenance nito?
    * at baka may ma recommend sa akin na iba.

    sana yung matipid sa diesel, hindi mahal ang parts, maganda pang long distance na byahe at hindi masyado matagtag. sana po matulongan nyo po ako sa pagpili. meron naman kaming ngayong isuzu trooper na 1992 model kaso ang lakas sa diesel kasi automatic ito at gusto na namin palitan ito.
    Sir we have the same ride Isuzu Trooper. Ilan ba ang FC mo sir kaya mo nasabi na malakas ang consumption? Kasi ako 7-8 km/L ang consumption ko pure city driving. Normal FC na yan given na 3.1 ang displacement. Yung 2.8 Pajero ng friend ko halos ganun din ang consumption. Nasa driving habits mo din siguro yun sir. Ako kasi di ko pinapalagpas ng 2.5k rpm. Mahal ang price ng parts ng Isuzu pero reliable naman sir at tumatagal. Pero kung desidido ka talaga sir pinaka okay sa choices yung Innova D4D.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kimpuy30 View Post
    Sir we have the same ride Isuzu Trooper. Ilan ba ang FC mo sir kaya mo nasabi na malakas ang consumption? Kasi ako 7-8 km/L ang consumption ko pure city driving. Normal FC na yan given na 3.1 ang displacement. Yung 2.8 Pajero ng friend ko halos ganun din ang consumption. Nasa driving habits mo din siguro yun sir. Ako kasi di ko pinapalagpas ng 2.5k rpm. Mahal ang price ng parts ng Isuzu pero reliable naman sir at tumatagal. Pero kung desidido ka talaga sir pinaka okay sa choices yung Innova D4D.


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    Pareho din pala tayo ng FC ng trooper natin boss. Ang ayaw ko lang talaga sa trooper namin ay a/t bitin kasi mag overtake lalo na uphill. Kung m/t na trooper(4jg2) ano kaya FC nya? Baka palitan ko nalang siguro ng manual na trooper.

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    2008 Tucson 2.0 crdi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcal68 View Post
    2008 Tucson 2.0 crdi.

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    May 3rd row seat ba ito sir?

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    Isuzu Alterra 1st Gen (2005/2006) model. Saw an ad na 400k lang sa OLX dati.

    CRDi na yan, and tipid rin sa diesel.
    Reliable parts, but medyo pricey. Pero so far SCV (*7k) palang pinapalitan ko sa engine area after 9 years of ownership.
    Already changed the 10 speakers due to overuse. Intact parin yung stock subwoofer nya kahit laging ginagamit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mykpogi View Post
    Isuzu Alterra 1st Gen (2005/2006) model. Saw an ad na 400k lang sa OLX dati.

    CRDi na yan, and tipid rin sa diesel.
    Reliable parts, but medyo pricey. Pero so far SCV (*7k) palang pinapalitan ko sa engine area after 9 years of ownership.
    Already changed the 10 speakers due to overuse. Intact parin yung stock subwoofer nya kahit laging ginagamit.
    Good choice rin ang alterra boss.
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    Go with innova diesel nalang sir or pajero fieldmaster. Matipid sa gas and madaling makahanap ng parts. Pero innova nalang kung meron ka makita para bago bago na :D

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    7-8km/L pala FC mo eh. It's not so bad... I'd expect the same from a Pajero or a Starex. Our Revo diesel consistently gets 7-8km/L before we had the head gasket replaced, and it now gets around 9km/L.

    Perhaps you can mod the car for more power and fuel efficiency. A K&N filter and alcohol injection would be nice. Probably also an intercooler upgrade. If you drive the same way as you do now, more power would mean better FC.

    If you just want a newer vehicle, a Pajero M/T might be a suitable upgrade, but don't expect much difference in terms of FC. If you want more power, there's always the 4JX1 Trooper...

    Innova is a good choice when it comes to fuel efficiency. Engine performance is good enough for the daily grind and the occasional trip out of town, but don't expect much in terms of top end power. 3rd row is quite cramped and I find the ride rather bouncy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post


    Innova is a good choice when it comes to fuel efficiency. Engine performance is good enough for the daily grind and the occasional trip out of town, but don't expect much in terms of top end power. 3rd row is quite cramped and I find the ride rather bouncy.

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    I dont agree that the 3r row of the innova is cramped kasya ako dyan maluwag kahit 5'9
    and bouncy ?? how about the revo with the leaf spring
    power?? it has enough power to overtake a vehicle refusing to be overtaken

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    Starex grx if you want space and comfort. Kasya 10, lots of leg room, lots of power di ka bibitinin ng crdi ng grx lahit 145 hp and 370 N-m torque lang yan iiwanan nyan ang mga innovas, troopers and pajeros. It has decent luggage space but if you need more you can always put a roof rack. I used to own one, pinalitan ko lang ng gs kasi na-ondoy. Meron na ako nakikitang ex-korea na mga grx sa mindanao avenue dealers (sure na hindi na-ondoy pag ex-korea).

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