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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Hello,

    Im new in this forum and new in buying cars. Me and my husband is planning to buy a car since we will be having a baby soon and we think its important to have a better transpo (as compared to commuting) when the baby is born. Our parents are suggesting to buy a brand new toyota vios with 1.3 engine while we plan to buy a 2nd hand 2002 model 1.3z honda city.

    The brand new vios is a good choice since there will be less maintenance but the higher cost will have longer amortization (5 years at 10K/month).

    The 2nd hand city is good choice since the amortization will only be for 2 years at 8K.

    1. My question is that is it safe to buy 2nd hand car today knowing that many cars where submerged in flood water during the unfortunate Odoy time?

    2. Would there be a way to identify if the car was a victim of the Ondoy?

    suggestion would greatly be appreciated


    Truly yours
    Ann
    Last edited by ann jelynne; April 8th, 2010 at 10:48 AM. Reason: mispell

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    #2
    Buying an 8yr old car? For sure there are lots of parts and fluids that need to be replaced. Allocate around P50,000.00 for miscellaneous repairs, parts, fluids, tires, etc....

    Getting a brand new car is always better, as long as your budget allows for it.

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    #3

    1. My question is that is it safe to buy 2nd hand car today knowing that many cars where submerged in flood water during the unfortunate Odoy time? No.

    2. Would there be a way to identify if the car was a victim of the Ondoy? Yes & No. Yes if the car hasn't been cleaned thoroughly and if the owner is honest to you. No, if the car is cleaned and if the owner is dishonest to buyers.


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    There's nothing really bad about buying 2nd hand vehicles especially with those whose budget are quite tight. If you think that you can pay the amortization without affecting your financial and current state then go, the brand new vios is better and the freshened up design is just released. However if you're quite unsure about your budget then you could stay away from new vehicles, first.

    Remember ....

    1. You will have a new baby soon. Having a baby is like having a vehicle, you should take care of him/her and you should allot a LOT of money for him/her.

    Congrats ma'm Ann in your upcoming baby and may you choose the best choice.

    BTW, let me share this few guidelines that I made that could help you in choosing the right 2nd hand vehicle ...

    In buying a second hand vehicles, it is important to consider some facts first.

    1. It is very hard to spot a flooded vehicle from the not-flooded ones. Especially if, this has been cleaned completely.
    The best thing to do ? Look at the place, ask some people there if that particular place has been flooded or not, if it is
    avoid the vehicle ASAP.

    2. In buying a 2nd hand vehicle, it doesn't stop from paying the vehicle itself ... the spending of money goes on and on.
    And, in buying a 2nd hand vehicle, expect repairs.

    3. A car, isn't an INVESTMENT. You don't really get money from it, unless you`re planning to keep it for several years
    until it becomes vintage already.

    4. Stay cool in driving. You'll never know what you might encounter, so the very best thing to do to avoid road rage is
    keeping your head cool as possible. Take a cup of coffee if you want, or yet ... don't drive if you're experiencing personal
    problems.

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    Now, to see if the vehicle is in it's greatest condition ... you must do the following.

    1. Check odometer readings. But don't just rely on this ... some, tampers this to lower the reading itself for them to fool
    buyers.

    2. Before you bring a trusted mechanic with you, it's better if you check the basic parts of the vehicle first. The power
    features if it's working, dents on the body, scratches, squeeking sound if any. Those basic things wont really be
    needing a mechanic, a good ear and a good eye will do.

    3. Check the engine if there are any problems. This will need you the mechanic. Let him check if there are any things
    that needs replacing ... list it down, count the cost then minus it from the total price of the vehicle.

    4. Check also the brakes. Check if its forming rust etc. Especially in drum brakes.

    5. Check also the other electrical stuffs. The radio, is it working ? The power antennas ( if available ) etc.

    6. Aircon too, check it. Is it cool enough for the cabin or does it need cleaning already or freon additions.

    7. Test drive. You need to push the car to 100kph. Here, you can see if there is any wiggling issues.
    Also do check the idling of the vehicle ? Too harsh or is it just normal ?

    8. Check vehicle history. You can go to the LTO to check it.

    9. Haggle the price down. The lower the better.

    ©Renzo_d10



    .... again congrats and goodluck.



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    #4
    among the options. i'll go for the brand new vios. atleast its brand new

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    #5
    opinion ko lang. Dahil concern ka sa safety ng family mo at lalong lalo na sa baby nyo, wag nyo na tipirin ang sarili ninyo. go for brand new na para mas safe.

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    #6
    Mag Vios 1.3E ka nalang!

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    #7
    If budget is really tight, even the 1.3 J at Php 599,000.00 (discounts may apply) is quite good as a family car.

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    #8
    lahat nasabi na ni renzo. nothing beats brand new vehicles, maliban lang kung lemon

    Vios 1.3E nalang. may Automatic Transmission 1.3E na ngayon para hindi ka mahirapan mag drive. priced at 720K

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    Thanks to all that replied. All your our suggestions will be a great help in our decision. Actually, our parents will also be helping in the monthly amortization, therefore we can afford even a brand new car. Thanks to Renzo for the guideline for second hand car. Thanks to Ishimaro also. I never realize until now that safety should come first. And tama "di dapat tinitipid si baby". Today, we will be looking at brand new vios, we will try to get discounts.

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    ^ If you can, then good. Tama, try to have discounts .... pigain mo ang SA mo and REMEMBER, wag ka lang titingin sa isang dealer. Different dealers and SA's tend to have different freebies and discounts that they can give you. If you want a bigger vehicle, try looking at the lancer cedia ... paktay ka nga lang sa gas nun. :rofl:

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