BMW M5 or Nismo Skyline R34?

[mazdamazda]

M5... comfort creature and also WilliamsF1 somehow dipped their hands in this particular model.

pre... that's just a marketing ploy.

when interviewed... sabi ng Williams wala daw silang na contribute sa M5. hehe.

[kimpOy]

oh well...

M5 pa rin...

[pixelparadigm]

Skyline na. It's a toy. Unlike yung M5, it's like your usual luxury car, with a V10.

[OTO]

pre... that's just a marketing ploy.

when interviewed... sabi ng Williams wala daw silang na contribute sa M5. hehe.

But it uses the same detuned Formula 1 engine right?

[mbt]

sa tingin ko rin (sa tingin ko lang ha! hehehe) over-hyped ang skyline GT-R, just as the last toyota supra was pretty over-hyped by its fans. for one thing, it's got a ridiculous curb weight. for another, all-wheel-drive offers no absolute performance advantages to dry-road handling (it does, however, help with standing-start acceleration and is more forgiving to clumsy drivers).

that said, i still want one

[kimpOy]

eto ang sabi...

Powered by a 5.0-liter V10 based on BMW's Formula One racing engine, the M5 can accelerate from 0 to 62 m.p.h. in "well under" 5.0 seconds and to 124 m.p.h. in 13 seconds, BMW research and development chief Burkhard Goeschel promised.
Specially modified Bi-VANOS camshaft timing, individual throttle butterflies and engine electronics derived from the BMW Williams F1 car make these impressive performance levels possible. These are linked to an enhanced DSC traction control system, a variable limited slip differential and adapted brakes to ensure that the Concept M5 offers an exhilarating, but safe, driving experience.
The folks at M say that they have designed the car "for maximum comfort when driving for longer periods on motorways or in stop-and-go city traffic, as well as for putting on a good show when racing round the north loop of the Nürburgring".
The impressive levels of performance are made possible by specially modified Bi-VANOS camshaft timing, individual throttle butterflies and engine electronics derived from the BMW Williams F1 car. These are linked to an enhanced DSC traction control system, a variable limited slip differential and adapted brakes to ensure that the Concept M5 offers an exhilarating, yet safe, driving experience.

[squala]

But it uses the same detuned Formula 1 engine right?

Probably not. The M5 has a 5-liter V10 unlike the Williams that's 3-liter. The road car also has to be reliable as the engine is not to be overhauled from time to time unlike the F1 car's.

[pixelparadigm]

for another, all-wheel-drive offers no absolute performance advantages to dry-road handling (it does, however, help with standing-start acceleration and is more forgiving to clumsy drivers).

Skyline's ATESSA ET-S drivetrain works differently than the usual AWD. Usually, it just runs like an FR. But when stability is lacking, 50/50 power distribution is applied. Extra power is added to the back wheels when understeering occurs. Combined with four wheel steering, it can contend with European sports cars in terms of handling.

Audi with their AWD Quattro system also doesn't do AWD for nothing. The same goes for Evos, Imprezas, and even Porches.

[beepskie]

go for the M5. Iba talaga ang European Technology.

[squala]

Skyline's ATESSA ET-S drivetrain works differently than the usual AWD. Usually, it just runs like an FR. But when stability is lacking, 50/50 power distribution is applied. Extra power is added to the back wheels when understeering occurs. Combined with four wheel steering, it can contend with European sports cars in terms of handling.

Audi with their AWD Quattro system also doesn't do AWD for nothing. The same goes for Evos, Imprezas, and even Porsches.

Yes, the Skyline's 4WD system has a great deal of sophistication, but if AFAIK, it's still not as agile as an Evo being a bigger, heavier car. On the other hand, BMW still doesn't apply 4WD to their M cars for some reason, despite already being employed in less powerful 3 and 5-Series models.