BMW M5 or Nismo Skyline R34?

[seonadancing]

M5 for me.

[ptk675]

hands down M5 din vote ko

[dhel]

WOW!... 2 of my dream cars! ;) But I guess, I dreamed the nismo Ztune GTR a lot more than the M5. It matches myself more eh, that's the first thing I consider when choosing. One of fastest production car ever made w/ 10.06sec.

[kha]

M5!
dream car!

[yohc]

M5, BMW kasi.

[bruton]

skyline! nakakasawa na m5, dumadami na rin. hindi pa ako nakakakita ng R34 dito sa pinas, siguro R33 pa lang at isang beses lang un. tumulong ka naman sa pagdagdag ng variety sa traffic hehehe

[N-nigma]

Actually, this thread confused me a bit... the poll should clearly specify that the skyline is not an ordinary skyline but a GT-R... and a very limited make Z-Tune model.

A tough one but I'd take the Japanese legend GT-R! It's more me eh. Diba Topgear Supercar of the year yung new model nito...

[kimpOy]

oh well...

M5 pa rin...

[pixelparadigm]

Skyline na. It's a toy. Unlike yung M5, it's like your usual luxury car, with a V10.

[mbt]

sa tingin ko rin (sa tingin ko lang ha! hehehe) over-hyped ang skyline GT-R, just as the last toyota supra was pretty over-hyped by its fans. for one thing, it's got a ridiculous curb weight. for another, all-wheel-drive offers no absolute performance advantages to dry-road handling (it does, however, help with standing-start acceleration and is more forgiving to clumsy drivers).

that said, i still want one

[pixelparadigm]

for another, all-wheel-drive offers no absolute performance advantages to dry-road handling (it does, however, help with standing-start acceleration and is more forgiving to clumsy drivers).

Skyline's ATESSA ET-S drivetrain works differently than the usual AWD. Usually, it just runs like an FR. But when stability is lacking, 50/50 power distribution is applied. Extra power is added to the back wheels when understeering occurs. Combined with four wheel steering, it can contend with European sports cars in terms of handling.

Audi with their AWD Quattro system also doesn't do AWD for nothing. The same goes for Evos, Imprezas, and even Porches.

[squala]

Skyline's ATESSA ET-S drivetrain works differently than the usual AWD. Usually, it just runs like an FR. But when stability is lacking, 50/50 power distribution is applied. Extra power is added to the back wheels when understeering occurs. Combined with four wheel steering, it can contend with European sports cars in terms of handling.

Audi with their AWD Quattro system also doesn't do AWD for nothing. The same goes for Evos, Imprezas, and even Porsches.

Yes, the Skyline's 4WD system has a great deal of sophistication, but if AFAIK, it's still not as agile as an Evo being a bigger, heavier car. On the other hand, BMW still doesn't apply 4WD to their M cars for some reason, despite already being employed in less powerful 3 and 5-Series models.

[mazdamazda]

Yes, the Skyline's 4WD system has a great deal of sophistication, but if AFAIK, it's still not as agile as an Evo being a bigger, heavier car. On the other hand, BMW still doesn't apply 4WD to their M cars for some reason, despite already being employed in less powerful 3 and 5-Series models.

RWD is still the way to go. just look at the REAL supercars... Enzo, Carrera GT & Mclaren SLR.

AWD will only add additional weight & lowers WHP. plus if you have a really good chassis, electronic driver aids (like ESC) & a driver who knows how to use it... who needs AWD to correct you?

Usually, it just runs like an FR

Nope... power is delivered to all wheels (but biased to the rear).

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IMO... AWD & 4WS is just a way to cover up a mediocre chassis.

[ghosthunter]

RWD is still the way to go. just look at the REAL supercars... Enzo, Carrera GT & Mclaren SLR.

AWD will only add additional weight & lowers WHP. plus if you have a really good chassis, electronic driver aids (like ESC) & a driver who knows how to use it... who needs AWD to correct you?

you forgot lamborghini... their current cars have all wheel drive. The advantage is additional traction when needed.

If you have over 500hp going to the two rear wheels, I think wheel spin is the result.

[IGNITED]

sa tingin ko rin (sa tingin ko lang ha! hehehe) over-hyped ang skyline GT-R, just as the last toyota supra was pretty over-hyped by its fans. for one thing, it's got a ridiculous curb weight. for another, all-wheel-drive offers no absolute performance advantages to dry-road handling (it does, however, help with standing-start acceleration and is more forgiving to clumsy drivers).

that said, i still want one

Di naman cguro my bro, its considred a legend for its feats and records set in the motoring world. Such that other Jap, Am or even Euro sports cars would be envious of. ;) e.g. nurburgring lap times, a record[SIZE=2] 50 consecutive official race wins[/SIZE][SIZE=2],[/SIZE] was banned in a race due to its gnarly performance, the only known race car to be given a handicap of 30 kilos every time it races! etc. etc. just to name a few. Thats why it was nicked "Godzilla" by foreigners due to its performance on the track.

[Dr.Kamiya]

Di naman cguro my bro, its considred a legend for its feats and records set in the motoring world. Such that other Jap, Am or even Euro sports cars would be envious of. ;) e.g. nurburgring lap times, a record[SIZE=2] 50 consecutive official race wins[/SIZE][SIZE=2],[/SIZE] was banned in a race due to its gnarly performance, the only known race car to be given a handicap of 30 kilos every time it races! etc. etc. just to name a few. Thats why it was nicked "Godzilla" by foreigners due to its performance on the track.

Right on! The Calsonic R32 GT-R was so good, it got AWD banned in Group-A.

Sila Tsuchiya pa yung drivers noon.

[kimpOy]

eto ang sabi...

Powered by a 5.0-liter V10 based on BMW's Formula One racing engine, the M5 can accelerate from 0 to 62 m.p.h. in "well under" 5.0 seconds and to 124 m.p.h. in 13 seconds, BMW research and development chief Burkhard Goeschel promised.
Specially modified Bi-VANOS camshaft timing, individual throttle butterflies and engine electronics derived from the BMW Williams F1 car make these impressive performance levels possible. These are linked to an enhanced DSC traction control system, a variable limited slip differential and adapted brakes to ensure that the Concept M5 offers an exhilarating, but safe, driving experience.
The folks at M say that they have designed the car "for maximum comfort when driving for longer periods on motorways or in stop-and-go city traffic, as well as for putting on a good show when racing round the north loop of the Nürburgring".
The impressive levels of performance are made possible by specially modified Bi-VANOS camshaft timing, individual throttle butterflies and engine electronics derived from the BMW Williams F1 car. These are linked to an enhanced DSC traction control system, a variable limited slip differential and adapted brakes to ensure that the Concept M5 offers an exhilarating, yet safe, driving experience.

[beepskie]

go for the M5. Iba talaga ang European Technology.

[baurtwellXUV]

skyline na muna.. toy car ba.. i wish i had the money...

[nugundam93]

standard setting ng GT-R is to have all power to the rears, but if need be (wheelspin on rears, etc...), it distributes the torque to the front too.

weight-wise...both the GT-R naman and M5 are heavy, so ayun. heheh.