Better Passenger Van? Nissan Urvan Or Toyota Hi-ace Commuter or others?

**KIANTOT** · February 21st, 2012 09:31 PM

Mas less maintanance ang urvan sir dahil old school diesel, may sanden at denso na aircon gamit ang toyota pero kapag shuttle service kahit nissan kailangan pa din ng extra blower dahil kapag puno hirap na din aircon hindi gaya ng escapade at grandia konte lang ang sakay.

**kompressor** · February 21st, 2012 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by KIANTOT

Mas less maintanance ang urvan sir dahil old school diesel, may sanden at denso na aircon gamit ang toyota pero kapag shuttle service kahit nissan kailangan pa din ng extra blower dahil kapag puno hirap na din aircon hindi gaya ng escapade at grandia konte lang ang sakay.

Same case din with the hiace commuter model pag puno ng pasahero na kailangan din lagyan ng extra blower sa gitnang area coz the passengers on the first rows have the tendency to hog the aircon vents themselves kaya ang nangyayari, sa bandang front rows lang nagcicirculate ang lamig. Unlike the I-van/Urvan Estate/Grandia models na may aircon vents distributed on all rows kaya maganda distribution ng lamig.

**KIANTOT** · February 21st, 2012 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by kompressor

Same case din with the hiace commuter model pag puno ng pasahero na kailangan din lagyan ng extra blower sa gitnang area coz the passengers on the first rows have the tendency to hog the aircon vents themselves kaya ang nangyayari, sa bandang front rows lang nagcicirculate ang lamig. Unlike the I-van/Urvan Estate/Grandia models na may aircon vents distributed on all rows kaya maganda distribution ng lamig.

Dun nga lang ako bilib sa I-van yung blower niya mukhang malaki sa pics, pero yung hiace commuter parang may nakita ako na vent fix directly sa likod bukod pa yung mga movable aircon vents, dapat nga ginaya na lang ng nissan at toyota yung wrap around aircon ng L300 versa van

**kompressor** · February 22nd, 2012 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by KIANTOT

Dun nga lang ako bilib sa I-van yung blower niya mukhang malaki sa pics, pero yung hiace commuter parang may nakita ako na vent fix directly sa likod bukod pa yung mga movable aircon vents, dapat nga ginaya na lang ng nissan at toyota yung wrap around aircon ng L300 versa van

Speaking of the versa van's wrap around aircon, Its blower motor is too weak even on the highest setting kaya hirap na hirap din siya pag puno na ng pasahero. Yung mga natututukan lang diretso ng vents ang masaya. If it only had blower motors as powerful as a nissan vanette's, then it would have been the best during its time.

Yung fixed na vents ng hiace commuter na pointing papuntang likod helps a lot but the airflow rate is still not enough pag filled to the brim na ng pasahero. Hindi rin halos nararamdaman ng nasa last 2 rows pag puno na. Lalo na yung urvan shuttle. Pag binuwakaw na ng front rowers yung aircon vents, good luck sa mga nasa likod.

Regarding the ceiling mounted and row distributed aircon vents of the newer models, parang sa grand starex ako naging pinaka-happy. Nice vent positions and very very nice airflow. Mas malakas pa ata kesa sa mga passenger/tourist buses.

**OTEP** · February 22nd, 2012 12:27 AM

Yeah, the rear a/c of the L300 is a bit of a joke. They did get the concept right, though.

Toyota does make a half hearted attempt with the fixed vents on the newer Hiace.

Individual vents on the I-Van, Urvan Estate, Grandia, and even MB100 are what we need to cope with the local climate. My only pet peeve is passengers like to play with the vents and on some fleet units the vents become loosey-goosey or get broken totally.

Saka kahit anong lakas ng aircon, walang magagawa kung may putok at bad breath ang kasama mo sa loob. hehehe. Random thought lang.

**kompressor** · February 22nd, 2012 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by OTEP

Saka kahit anong lakas ng aircon, walang magagawa kung may putok at bad breath ang kasama mo sa loob. hehehe. Random thought lang.

To add to this random thought, mas malala yung naexperience ko nung high school sa MB100 ng classmate namin. The aircon was doing quite well pero merong nag "silent killer/silencer" sa loob. Parang yung feeling eh biglang uminit yung cabin as in biglang naglabasan kaming lahat! As usual, WALANG UMAMIN! :D :D

**KIANTOT** · February 22nd, 2012 01:00 AM

Agree because when you look inside the L300 versa you will think it has good airconditioning system, pero kapag pina andar na yun lang

and yes another thing yung mga pasahero na pasaway, they don't care when changing the vents direction akala nila bakal they push the vents very hard kaya nasisira eh pwede naman baguhin ng dahan dahan, gusto nila sinlamig ng mall pagpasok pa lang.

minsan nasa driver na din ang diskarte kase kailangan bago pa lang magsakay ng pasahero pinalalamig na yung van, para hindi na mag agawan ng vents, pero I hope na magkaroon ng quality na mura mga parts yang D4D toyota gusto ko din kumuha at mag upgrade pero just because galing ako sa old school diesel kaya ang hirap icompare ang mga parts at may mga negative pa din kase ako naririnig lalo na sa ka officemate ni erpats hehe kaya after 2 years kapag ganun pa din urvan estate na lang ang choice

**OTEP** · February 22nd, 2012 01:02 AM

Haha. Next nito may magpopost na galing sa Colgate, Rexona, at Diatabs claiming their products are heavy duty. Peace. :D hehe.

In that regard, patay ang mga naka-sakay sa Hiace Grandia in that situation kasi inoperable ang rear windows.

**cripple_rooster** · February 22nd, 2012 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by mondragon

bkit cripple rooster, hndi ba direct injection ang urban n yan? i-van leads over urban in terms of payload, and of course i-van is nhr truck than an urban which is purely van.... but if with hi-ace, hi ace has slight advantage over urban in comfort and aircon

Direct injection increases fuel-efficiency about 20% with no sacrifice to power and reliability.

**Ry_Tower** · February 22nd, 2012 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by mondragon

bkit cripple rooster, hndi ba direct injection ang urban n yan? i-van leads over urban in terms of payload, and of course i-van is nhr truck than an urban which is purely van.... but if with hi-ace, hi ace has slight advantage over urban in comfort and aircon

Saan ka ba nakatira> Hiace has better aircon than Urvan? More comfortable pa? Walandiyo, ikaw lang ata nagsasabi niyan. Dami dito sa amin niyan, lamang ang nissan sa comfort at aircon sa hiace.

At yung thread eh best passenger van so Hiace vs Urvan lang yan, di puwede i-van dahil truck na halos yun eh. Parang more of cargo hauler!