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    I wonder which is the best... do we have a diamond in the rough here?

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    Why would you even say "worst" if you want to buy one of these vehicles? it's rather unusual.


    With your choices, I'd go with the Elantra. Reliable engine and transmission and very good NVH. 1.6 is frugal.
    Its got a generous 150k discount as mentioned here in the forums.

    I would get the Civic though if compacts are your target.

    or wait for the new Kia Forte/Cerato.

    or wait even longer for the upcoming 2019 Toyota Corolla Altis and 2019 Ford Focus

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    Probably naka base sya sa car sales data. Halos wala kasi bumibili dun sa 3 choices nya.

    Is ford focus still being offered here?

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    Ford-PH announced no price increase for all models of the Fiesta and Focus. They were even offering a 150k discount on the Focus.

    Among the three, I would get the Focus. That 1.5L turbo engine is just a hoot to drive.


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    Diba Fiesta ang naka 1.5? The Focus entry level has a 1.8 engine if im not mistaken.

    If it were me though, i’d pick the elantra.


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    Quote Originally Posted by benchph1 View Post
    Diba Fiesta ang naka 1.5? The Focus entry level has a 1.8 engine if im not mistaken.

    If it were me though, i’d pick the elantra.


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    The Fiesta is offered with the lower powered 1.5L NA engine or the more powerful 1.0L Ecoboost engine. The Focus only comes with the 1.5L Ecoboost engine (180hp/240Nm).

    That Ford 1.8L engine was used on the Focus three generations ago.

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    Here’s my thoughts on these choices.

    If you want a comfortable ride and you prefer more of a relaxed approach to driving, go get the Sylphy. It is very similar to dimensions and ride as the Altis. Less discounts, the 1.8V model is a good buy for just over 900k.

    If you want a sporty ride (something quick, fast, and athletic), go get the Focus. It is out there among the quickest and best handling compacts available like the Civic RS, Golf 1.4T, and Mazda3 2.0L. Less discounts, it is the sportiest ride you can buy for 1M.

    I can’t say much about the new Elantra but the ones I have seen in the malls look bare. The previous generation 1.8L GLS model looks much better and with a more powerful engine.


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    I'll get the Elantra any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Why would you even say "worst" if you want to buy one of these vehicles? it's rather unusual.


    With your choices, I'd go with the Elantra. Reliable engine and transmission and very good NVH. 1.6 is frugal.
    Its got a generous 150k discount as mentioned here in the forums.

    I would get the Civic though if compacts are your target.

    or wait for the new Kia Forte/Cerato.

    or wait even longer for the upcoming 2019 Toyota Corolla Altis and 2019 Ford Focus
    I'm not looking into buying them. As I said, I'm just wondering what's the opinion of others on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    Probably naka base sya sa car sales data. Halos wala kasi bumibili dun sa 3 choices nya.

    Is ford focus still being offered here?
    Correct with car sales data as well as a slew of some other metrics like reliability and value for money etc...

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    compacts are a dying breed...

    mostly because of good choices in the subcompact range, honda city, diesel accents, vios.

    people who graduate from subcompacts will appreciate compacts and maybe leap into the cuv/suc/ppv market

    i have an elantra and im ready for a class above compact

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    compacts are a dying breed...

    mostly because of good choices in the subcompact range, honda city, diesel accents, vios.

    people who graduate from subcompacts will appreciate compacts and maybe leap into the cuv/suc/ppv market

    i have an elantra and im ready for a class above compact

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    This is the reality in the local car market but it is not a global trend. There are still bigger markets where compacts and midsize cars are the leaders in sales but in the case of North America, capable CUVs are eating up the sales of both categories.

    It would have been great for Hyundai-PH to have brought here the Elantra Sport with the 1.6L turbo engine (same as the Veloster) but they opted for the safer yet boring option of a 1.6L NA engine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Kahit anong engine ilagay nila sa Elantra, it won't sell because it's a Hyundai.

    They had their chance with the prev gen Elantra. Many bought, many were no longer repeat customers.

    Even the Accent with its vastly superior engine cannot outsell the more pedestrian City and Vios.

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    An even sadder reality for Hyundai. If only the local dealers work on improving their aftermarket services, maybe it would turn things around for them.


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    even pdi didnt include the compacts in their poll



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    Between Ford Focus at Sylphy alin po ba ang mas comfortable na second row seat?planning to buy din po kasi my first car,family car, comfortable po ang priority,iitatanong ko na din po ang fuel consumption ng Focus baka may idea po kayo kasi sya talaga ang gusto ko kahit s picture ko palang nakikita.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feder View Post
    Between Ford Focus at Sylphy alin po ba ang mas comfortable na second row seat?planning to buy din po kasi my first car,family car, comfortable po ang priority,iitatanong ko na din po ang fuel consumption ng Focus baka may idea po kayo kasi sya talaga ang gusto ko kahit s picture ko palang nakikita.
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    Sylphy, definitely. Ang sikip ng Focus. Mas maluwag pa Jazz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Sylphy, definitely. Ang sikip ng Focus. Mas maluwag pa Jazz.

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    Salamat sir,sa picture lang pala maganda yung interior ng Fucos

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    Same with Jut, the Sylphy is a better family car. It is big inside and comfortable. The Focus is more fit for yuppies or young couples with only a child or two.

    The Focus is cramped on the rear, like the Mazda3. You have to be mindful of the accelerator if you want to be thrift on gas with the Focus. Ecoboost engines tend to spool early at low rpms when properly warmed. Constant spooling at low rpm is not friendly on gas. Average fuel consumption for city driving is around 6-7 km/L, as per my friend who owns one.


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    No sure, pero focus is CBU from US, same with explorer, mustang and exped.

    Matutuwa si minicarph since sosyal, di ba? Lol

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    The Elantra is not a bad car... maybe lacking in some sound insulation compared to more expensive cars in the class, but perfectly competent.

    And perfectly forgettable.

    The Sylphy has much more space than almost anything else out there, but it doesn't have much else going for it.

    The Ford Focus is CRAMPED. But it is fantastic to drive. And that turbocharged 185 hp engine is good for some laughs. Better yet, the new six speed automatic is much less problematic than the old DCT.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    I am one of the few who bought elantra last year, and I'm happy with it. I got the old GLS model because of a huge discount. I also like the long warranty and that I can bring my own orig parts in some of their casas.

    I think the NVH of the new elantra has improved. I was wary of the rear suspension being torsion beam unlike Civic, Focus, Mazda3 but when I test drove it I liked the acceleration, ride and the sound insulation better than some of the cars I tried. Anyway I will not be cornering very fast. Watch Alex on Auto on youtube for comparison.

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