Battle of the Transmissions: M/T vs. A/T

[dr. d]

About transmission maintenance Ito yung kinaiinisan ko sa mga casa ng pinas and even talyer na gigil na gigil kumita eh.

Tingnan nyo pag nagsearch ako ang tatagal palitan hindi dapat agad-agad. Sa manual trans nga kung hinid pa nagleak gear oil ko eh hinid pa ako magpapalit so after 15years!!! . Kaya nga tinawag na "Lifetime oil"

"lifetime."
whose lifetime?

"when the transmission malfunctions, its lifetime is over. and so are any real or assumed warranties."

so what are my warranties?
"when it breaks in two, you own both parts."
- from a decades-old auto joke.
heh heh.

[dr. d]

Me and my friends ieeducate ko mga nasa facebook group kasi hindi nila naabutan tsikot forum sa proper maintenance. Ang dami mapagsamantalang scammer sa facebook so gigil sa kwarta.

so how successful have you and your friends been, in informing them that there is a tsikot.com?

[kagalingan]

^
Direcho advise na agad what to do and what not to avail. And we are telling them dont be afraid pag sinabihan hindi mawawarranty. Nung may recall sa honda airbags eh hindi naman ako regular magpms sa casa eh bakit kasama pa din ako na inayos airbag?

my friend kasi doc eh old school car guy na panahon pa wala pa tsikot forum panahon nila niky at ghosthunter and i forgot meron pa isa.

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Walandyo buhay tio meron pala transmission filter ang civic fd ko. Sa next atf change papailtan ko na.

[dr. d]

i am curious.
in our local setting,
does the CVT offer real, experiential fuel-saving advantages over the traditional AT?

[Egan101]

i am curious.
in our local setting,
does the CVT offer real, experiential fuel-saving advantages over the traditional AT?

My old Accord had an AT and it had a 2.3L NA engine. My FXT has a 2.0L turbo engine paired with a CVT on an AWD platform, it is more powerful and heavier than my old Accord. However, their fuel consumption is around the same.

Thus, the FXT prove to be more fuel efficient than my old Accord. The ASX (2.0L NA) with its CVT on a FWD platform is even more fuel efficient.

The new SkyActiv Mazda’s prove to be very fuel efficient without the use of a CVT.


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[17Sphynx17]

i am curious.
in our local setting,
does the CVT offer real, experiential fuel-saving advantages over the traditional AT?

As long as you don't floor it while it is doing its thing during the "Rubber banding" phase to try to accelerate you, there should be benefits there.

I personally am okay with CVTs, but only for city driving. But, my case is also different than the regular joe as I don't need to go out for a 9 to 5 job. So I'm only leaving home office for meetings and they don't usually coincide with the regular rush hour trip down to the offices, or I'm going in the opposite direction.

For flat highways, and coasting, it should be fine, especially with our speed limits in place. But if you are going to do climb, I prefer regular AT or MT. =)

[Egan101]

As long as you don't floor it while it is doing its thing during the "Rubber banding" phase to try to accelerate you, there should be benefits there.

I personally am okay with CVTs, but only for city driving. But, my case is also different than the regular joe as I don't need to go out for a 9 to 5 job. So I'm only leaving home office for meetings and they don't usually coincide with the regular rush hour trip down to the offices, or I'm going in the opposite direction.

For flat highways, and coasting, it should be fine, especially with our speed limits in place. But if you are going to do climb, I prefer regular AT or MT. =)

You should see me drive a CVT vehicle on the highway or on the twisty roads.


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[17Sphynx17]

You should see me drive a CVT vehicle on the highway or on the twisty roads.


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Haha! Family doesn't own any CVT car with a turbo or power output above 150hp. But yeah, Subaru has the better CVT compared to what we have. The first gen Honda CVT in the City, and the dreaded Jatco CVT (it is 2nd gen at least I recall and not a first gen)

For twisty road going up/down mountains/hills, I personally prefer manual override AT on a Diesel with my limited experience. Montero over the Fortuner. Carens over the Montero. Haha! I don't have other SUV/AUV/VAN experience with a modern Turbo diesel engine.

[jut703]

Haha! Family doesn't own any CVT car with a turbo or power output above 150hp. But yeah, Subaru has the better CVT compared to what we have. The first gen Honda CVT in the City, and the dreaded Jatco CVT (it is 2nd gen at least I recall and not a first gen)

For twisty road going up/down mountains/hills, I personally prefer manual override AT on a Diesel with my limited experience. Montero over the Fortuner. Carens over the Montero. Haha! I don't have other SUV/AUV/VAN experience with a modern Turbo diesel engine.

You don't need more than 150 hp to enjoy a CVT on mountain roads. Fast car slow driver will always get beaten by slow car fast driver. [emoji4]

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[Egan101]

You don't need more than 150 hp to enjoy a CVT on mountain roads. Fast car slow driver will always get beaten by slow car fast driver. [emoji4]

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They should see you drive that Civic and CRV. Both CVT and just within 150hp. Hahahaha


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[17Sphynx17]

You don't need more than 150 hp to enjoy a CVT on mountain roads. Fast car slow driver will always get beaten by slow car fast driver. [emoji4]

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That is true.

With my Jatco CVT equipped car, I don't want to gamble it suddenly conking out on me. Nung inakyat ko sa Mt Samat, masaya naman... pero pagdating ko taas... di ko malaman kung sino nangangamoy sunug na clutch sa dami ng kotse last year. haha! Kaya pababa medyo alalay na lang ako para sigurado.

Haven't driven the newer Honda's with their Aisin CVT

[ice15]

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[yapoy86]

That is true.

With my Jatco CVT equipped car, I don't want to gamble it suddenly conking out on me. Nung inakyat ko sa Mt Samat, masaya naman... pero pagdating ko taas... di ko malaman kung sino nangangamoy sunug na clutch sa dami ng kotse last year. haha! Kaya pababa medyo alalay na lang ako para sigurado.

Haven't driven the newer Honda's with their Aisin CVT

nung nag baguio din kami minsan, yung mga vios medyo hirap umahon sa tirik... tendency ng driver mag slide clutch talaga lalo na kung mga newbie.. unlike yung malaki engine displacement at diesel engine, hindi hirap sa ganyan, kahit low rev nakaka ahon.. yung small displacement, need ng more revs para sa torque

[Egan101]

nung nag baguio din kami minsan, yung mga vios medyo hirap umahon sa tirik... tendency ng driver mag slide clutch talaga lalo na kung mga newbie.. unlike yung malaki engine displacement at diesel engine, hindi hirap sa ganyan, kahit low rev nakaka ahon.. yung small displacement, need ng more revs para sa torque

Kung turbocharged yung small displacement gas engine, no issues sa torque delivery at mga akyatan. Yung Fiesta 1.0L Ecoboost engine produces about the same amount of torque at high revs as a 2.0L NA gas engine.


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[StockEngine]

That is true.

With my Jatco CVT equipped car, I don't want to gamble it suddenly conking out on me. Nung inakyat ko sa Mt Samat, masaya naman... pero pagdating ko taas... di ko malaman kung sino nangangamoy sunug na clutch sa dami ng kotse last year. haha! Kaya pababa medyo alalay na lang ako para sigurado.

Haven't driven the newer Honda's with their Aisin CVT

Honda makes their own cvts. They use zf on their bigger vehicles.

[dr. d]

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after over 140K km and 15 years, my innova's MT box and clutch are still un-touched.
but i did have to replace the trans oil after ondoy.

there are always outliers.

[StockEngine]

after over 140K km and 15 years, my innova's MT box and clutch are still un-touched.
but i did have to replace the trans oil after ondoy.

there are always outliers.

I went over the article too. Their vios at needs servicing. Mukhang they didn't change the fluid enough. My 6sp at is close to half mil and its holding up pretty well.

[dr. d]

I went over the article too. Their vios at needs servicing. Mukhang they didn't change the fluid enough. My 6sp at is close to half mil and its holding up pretty well.

i don't know.
it seems like they're giving the vios mt too many sakits that it does not really have.
pms to the core, talaga.
"we will replace your parts even if it still looks like it is in very good condition, so that it will not brake down on you."
heh heh.

[tigkal]

For longevity, MT. It will outlast the car. Yung AT, designed to last same as the car or less. If you plan to sell the car after x years, choose AT. If you want to keep it forever, MT. My Altis MT at 150k and 14 years without any transmission parts replaced. Minsan nasa pag gamit din. I grew up driving MT. 3 speed pa noon. Shifted to AT for comfort. Iba kasi yung feeling upon arrival at destination using MT and AT..

[GTcervan]

M/t is a dying breed these days.