BATTLE OF THE NEW SUV's - All New Everest vs 2016 Montero vs 2016 Fortuner

[jabaliza]

http://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-i...mpetition.html


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[jabaliza]

http://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-i...d-everest.html


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[lichking616]

after driving, isa lang masasabi ko sa montero....effortless

[frostmourn]

0-100 from Thai mag.

2.4L vs. 2.8L vs. 3.2L

Which is which?

[niky]

0-100 from Thai mag.

2.4L vs. 2.8L vs. 3.2L

Which is which?

The Everest isn't all that difficult to beat. The 3.2 has a very short powerband. Lots of torque, but a short powerband.

Still, those numbers look oddly slow... and none of them close to matching the Trailblazer 2.8... or maybe even the old MS 2.5 AT.

[EQAddict]

i dont think any can beat the older trailblazer in terms of acceleration and speed.

[3GEMS]

^ so halimaw talaga trailblazer 2.8? Some says same lang daw montero 2.5 V coz its heavier?

[StockEngine]

^ so halimaw talaga trailblazer 2.8? Some says same lang daw montero 2.5 V coz its heavier?

Yun 4x2 2.8 with good tires kaya sub 8seconds hehehe

[siuu3ci]

^ so halimaw talaga trailblazer 2.8? Some says same lang daw montero 2.5 V coz its heavier?

Nope mas mabilis pa rin sa 2.5v 4D56 Monty kahit mas mabigat. Though the new 4N15 is very promising. It comes to mind how will a 2.8 MIVEC Diesel would be? I bet it can easily beat Chevs Duramax. Now that is the real Monstero! Hehe 😊

[EQAddict]

Raced with many montero 2.5v already in my ltz. And mine is the older engine hindi pa new model. Mine is the 180hp version and not the newer 200hp 500NM version. Even my older unit would easily beat the monteros. No iffs and buts. Headstart or no headstart for the opposition

[jabaliza]

For me ride comfort, towing capacity gets my vote. So its a toss bet mont, eve and fort. Thats whats included in this thread anyway. Others are OT already


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[yebo]

eto computation bakit pure BS yang 120kph * 1500 rpm.

according to 2016 montero sports specs sheet:
6th gear ratio for manual = 0.651
8th gear ratio for a/t = 0.672
final gear ratio = 3.865 for both manual and a/t.
both have 265/60r18 tires.

circumference of tire:
(((265×0.60×2)/25.4)+18)×2.54×3.1415)100 = 2.435 meters.

at 120kph:
120,000/60 minutes/2.435 = 821.355 revolutions of the wheel per minute at 120 kph.

for manual transmission:
engine rpm = wheel rpm x final gear ratio x 6th gear ratio
= 821.355 x 3.865 x 0.651
= 2,066 rpm * 120 kph.

for automatic transmission:
engine rpm = 821.355 x 3.865 x 0.672
= 2,133 rpm, assuming no loss from the hydromatic.

sige pa ipagboladas mo pa yang 120kph * 1500 rpm lie mo.

the only way you can get that picture they ask you is on an a/t, then run at higher than 120kph then let go off the accelerator pedal so engine rpm goes down then take the picture as the needle goes to the 120kph mark. syempre di ka na nakatapak sa gas pedal mababa na rpm. di mo pa ginagawa huli ko na kung paano.

sorry mods, i hate people who lie. especially those lies meant to mislead.

[siuu3ci]

eto computation bakit pure BS yang 120kph * 1500 rpm.

according to 2016 montero sports specs sheet:
6th gear ratio for manual = 0.651
8th gear ratio for a/t = 0.672
final gear ratio = 3.865 for both manual and a/t.
both have 265/60r18 tires.

circumference of tire:
(((265×0.60×2)/25.4)+18)×2.54×3.1415)100 = 2.435 meters.

at 120kph:
120,000/60 minutes/2.435 = 821.355 revolutions of the wheel per minute at 120 kph.

for manual transmission:
engine rpm = wheel rpm x final gear ratio x 6th gear ratio
= 821.355 x 3.865 x 0.651
= 2,066 rpm * 120 kph.

for automatic transmission:
engine rpm = 821.355 x 3.865 x 0.672
= 2,133 rpm, assuming no loss from the hydromatic.

sige pa ipagboladas mo pa yang 120kph * 1500 rpm lie mo.

the only way you can get that picture they ask you is on an a/t, then run at higher than 120kph then let go off the accelerator pedal so engine rpm goes down then take the picture as the needle goes to the 120kph mark. syempre di ka na nakatapak sa gas pedal mababa na rpm. di mo pa ginagawa huli ko na kung paano.

sorry mods, i hate people who lie. especially those lies meant to mislead.

Whoa! Nice compute brod. Pde magtanong ano ba ibig sabihin ng final gear ratio? Sori for asking just interested to know these kinds of stuff☺

[yebo]

Whoa! Nice compute brod. Pde magtanong ano ba ibig sabihin ng final gear ratio? Sori for asking just interested to know these kinds of stuff☺

differential gear ratio lang yun. kaya nga if you noticed both the manual and a/t models have the same ratio since both models use the same differential. the gear ratios define how many turns the engine makes with regards to the output shaft.

example: for the 6th gear of the manual tranny model the ratio is 0 651:1, the engine turns 0.651 x for every turn of the transmission output shaft, meaning the engine is actually turning slower that the output shaft of the tranny. however at the differential the ratio is 3.865:1, so the output shaft of the tranny turns 3.865 x for every turn of the wheel. so the total drive ratio is engine × tranny x differential = 1 × 0.651 × 3. 865 when the tranny is in 6th gear.

[ayosbathere]

differential gear ratio lang yun. kaya nga if you noticed both the manual and a/t models have the same ratio since both models use the same differential. the gear ratios define how many turns the engine makes with regards to the output shaft.

example: for the 6th gear of the manual tranny model the ratio is 0 651:1, the engine turns 0.651 x for every turn of the transmission output shaft, meaning the engine is actually turning slower that the output shaft of the tranny. however at the differential the ratio is 3.865:1, so the output shaft of the tranny turns 3.865 x for every turn of the wheel. so the total drive ratio is engine × tranny x differential = 1 × 0.651 × 3. 865 when the tranny is in 6th gear.

nice math and explanation. But to get the actual max speed per gear ration (of the physical vehicle) this need to run * the wheel


mag karera na lang kayo.. or dyno nyo mga new SUV to end the discussion.

PS: nasa driver pa rin yan hehehe

peace kay 120KPH * 1500rpm... totoo free wheeling yan ginawa mo hahahaha

[gundam]

eto computation bakit pure BS yang 120kph * 1500 rpm.

according to 2016 montero sports specs sheet:
6th gear ratio for manual = 0.651
8th gear ratio for a/t = 0.672
final gear ratio = 3.865 for both manual and a/t.
both have 265/60r18 tires.

circumference of tire:
(((265×0.60×2)/25.4)+18)×2.54×3.1415)100 = 2.435 meters.

at 120kph:
120,000/60 minutes/2.435 = 821.355 revolutions of the wheel per minute at 120 kph.

for manual transmission:
engine rpm = wheel rpm x final gear ratio x 6th gear ratio
= 821.355 x 3.865 x 0.651
= 2,066 rpm * 120 kph.

for automatic transmission:
engine rpm = 821.355 x 3.865 x 0.672
= 2,133 rpm, assuming no loss from the hydromatic.

sige pa ipagboladas mo pa yang 120kph * 1500 rpm lie mo.

the only way you can get that picture they ask you is on an a/t, then run at higher than 120kph then let go off the accelerator pedal so engine rpm goes down then take the picture as the needle goes to the 120kph mark. syempre di ka na nakatapak sa gas pedal mababa na rpm. di mo pa ginagawa huli ko na kung paano.

sorry mods, i hate people who lie. especially those lies meant to mislead.

Reminds me of dtkiko hehehe [emoji39].
Tagal ko na din pala dito.

[ACarEnthusiast]

eto computation bakit pure BS yang 120kph * 1500 rpm.

according to 2016 montero sports specs sheet:
6th gear ratio for manual = 0.651
8th gear ratio for a/t = 0.672
final gear ratio = 3.865 for both manual and a/t.
both have 265/60r18 tires.

circumference of tire:
(((265×0.60×2)/25.4)+18)×2.54×3.1415)100 = 2.435 meters.

at 120kph:
120,000/60 minutes/2.435 = 821.355 revolutions of the wheel per minute at 120 kph.

for manual transmission:
engine rpm = wheel rpm x final gear ratio x 6th gear ratio
= 821.355 x 3.865 x 0.651
= 2,066 rpm * 120 kph.

for automatic transmission:
engine rpm = 821.355 x 3.865 x 0.672
= 2,133 rpm, assuming no loss from the hydromatic.

sige pa ipagboladas mo pa yang 120kph * 1500 rpm lie mo.

the only way you can get that picture they ask you is on an a/t, then run at higher than 120kph then let go off the accelerator pedal so engine rpm goes down then take the picture as the needle goes to the 120kph mark. syempre di ka na nakatapak sa gas pedal mababa na rpm. di mo pa ginagawa huli ko na kung paano.

sorry mods, i hate people who lie. especially those lies meant to mislead.

I totally agree.

[EQAddict]

Nice post there yebo. No disputing the math.

[minicarph]

Magaling talaga mag-comoute yan si fafa, Kasi sa oil rig yan eh

[Oddyseus]

Based on experience, 80kph * 1600 rpm; 100kph * 1800 rpm and 120 * 2000 rpm. Steady acceleration lang and hindi pinreno. One full tank was enough to cover ikot sa bulacan then straight to La Union and back from manila. About 670 kms in total which I think is okay for a new car na di pa na break in fully. Hoping the FC will improve once the gaskets set. Just disappointed on the confusion on PMS sked. Nothing mentioned in the manual and the dealers are confused kung ano ba talaga. Citi saying required 1K and 5K, Carworld saying every 10k. Pitfalls of getting a new unit siguro, di pa kabosado ng dealers or iba lang gusto kumita ng malaki. The car dash reminded states every 10K or 6 months nga pala.