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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    HOWEVER this comparison is not equal. yun lang kasi 4x2 ng monty na-test ko so i can not comment on the 4x4 monty. dapat talaga if you will compare the eve 3.2 you must compare it to the 4x4 variants of the other brands.
    Yes, 4x4 variants are heavier. Additional weight is due to the presence of a transfer case, and front wheel drive mechanicals, (axles, diff, etc.). In some cases, 4x4 variants come with a bigger engine too, so again added weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    january 2016 nung kakakuha ko pa lang ng eve 3.2 ko sinabi ko na mabigat ang eve. 2475 kg ba? not sure on the weight but it is heavier by 400kg something over the 2.2 4x2 eve.

    if you are just basing it on test drives (AND EVE TEST DRIVE UNITS ARE 2.2 TREND MODELS) sasabihin mo talaga na malakas hatak ng eve. the 160 hp of the 2.2 engine is more than enough to give you that adrenaline fix. pero pag nakasakay ka na dun sa binili mo na 3.2 (like me, tested the 2.2 then bought the 3.2) e MABIGAT. lalo na nung sa akin mga unang labas ng eve e siguro pinapakiramdaman pa ng fordph so tuned down ang engine. ONLY AFTER THE 1ST 1000KM PM DID I FEEL THE POWER OF THE 3.2. mas lumakas na siya after the 1st pm kaya nasabi ko last year na ganun nga feel ko tuned down ang engine.

    i've only tested the 4x2 monty. kung 2.2 4x2 eve vs 2.5 4x2 monty then its almost all butt feel. halos pareho sila, depende na sa apak ng pedal. for me lamang monty, much lighter ang feel. the eve after all has heavier body panels. pero pag eve 3.2 4x4 vs monty 2.5 4x2 lamang ang monty ng malaki. laki ng weight difference. HOWEVER this comparison is not equal. yun lang kasi 4x2 ng monty na-test ko so i can not comment on the 4x4 monty. dapat talaga if you will compare the eve 3.2 you must compare it to the 4x4 variants of the other brands.

    huwag kayo nagbibigay ng opinion na hindi 1st hand. madaming buyers ang nagco-consult sa tsikot.com bago sila bumili. if you atest to something you did not personally experience it is 2nd only to telling a lie.
    Yup 4x4 monty ko heavier by 100 plus kilos than 4x2 that is around 1 ton. Lightest ppv on the market due to its alum engine .

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinametzin View Post
    Maging masaya kayo sa binili niyo. Wag niyo ng patulan kung alam niyo sa sarili niyo ang totoo. Lol. Parang karamihan dito naghahanap ng validation on their chosen vehicle. [emoji23]��[emoji23]. Subjective naman yan eh. There is more than numbers and figures. Hindi niyo kailangan maging staunch defenders of your chosen car. LOL.


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    alam ko bumile ka ng Fort lately, yan talaga gusto lahat ng Filipino bumile ng fort para pare-pareho kayo. novelty and prestige loses value at least aesthetihicaly pag pare pare kayo say sa parking lot ng starbucks tagaytay. i even commended toyota for raising their prices more, kasi economics yan eh, when people spend more on a car texhnically they are foregoing the other opportunities of the increase so hindi sila makakabile ng may mabibile pa ng say people who bought the discounted mux or monty.

    i like people pointing to the crowd mentality dept coz they subconsciouslly think they have the roght decision pero they lose individuality.

    i never like Toyota a d I will never buy a Toyota unless yun na nga kung totoo yun smuggled land cruisers dito. why land ceuisers are rare, but what's even more exciting is getting it at the price of a top of the line fort.

    pero toyota in general is a masa car with less features. you just pay for the brand and in turn the next gen Fprt will be even more stripped down and people will buy it more expensive pa. yan ang marketers dreams, the fairytale that is Toyota, mga uto-uto coz they are blindly hypnotized by the brand

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    alam ko bumile ka ng Fort lately, yan talaga gusto lahat ng Filipino bumile ng fort para pare-pareho kayo. novelty and prestige loses value at least aesthetihicaly pag pare pare kayo say sa parking lot ng starbucks tagaytay. i even commended toyota for raising their prices more, kasi economics yan eh, when people spend more on a car texhnically they are foregoing the other opportunities of the increase so hindi sila makakabile ng may mabibile pa ng say people who bought the discounted mux or monty.

    i like people pointing to the crowd mentality dept coz they subconsciouslly think they have the roght decision pero they lose individuality.

    i never like Toyota a d I will never buy a Toyota unless yun na nga kung totoo yun smuggled land cruisers dito. why land ceuisers are rare, but what's even more exciting is getting it at the price of a top of the line fort.

    pero toyota in general is a masa car with less features. you just pay for the brand and in turn the next gen Fprt will be even more stripped down and people will buy it more expensive pa. yan ang marketers dreams, the fairytale that is Toyota, mga uto-uto coz they are blindly hypnotized by the brand
    one example is here^^^. Don't be swayed by someone's opinion. Choose what really suits your needs. Yung anong gusto mo, saan ka mas masaya, comportable, kampante, may peace of mind etc! Wag kayong naghahanap ng validation sa iba dahil pera niyo yan. Kahit anong piliin niyo may masasabit masasabi sila. Hahahaha!


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    Quote Originally Posted by quinametzin View Post
    one example is here^^^. Don't be swayed by someone's opinion. Choose what really suits your needs. Yung anong gusto mo, saan ka mas masaya, comportable, kampante, may peace of mind etc! Wag kayong naghahanap ng validation sa iba dahil pera niyo yan. Kahit anong piliin niyo may masasabit masasabi sila. Hahahaha!


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    Though there are proven facts like matagtag ang fort, sulit ang monty maganda suspension niya, Ford having the best features, blah blah. These facts are very helpful for those who are very METICULOUS when it comes to shelling out large amount of money. Pero may mga tao talaga na will stick to their brand hanggang sa mamatay. HAHAHHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatchuPichu0324 View Post
    Though there are proven facts like matagtag ang fort, sulit ang monty maganda suspension niya, Ford having the best features, blah blah. These facts are very helpful for those who are very METICULOUS when it comes to shelling out large amount of money. Pero may mga tao talaga na will stick to their brand hanggang sa mamatay. HAHAHHA

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    That's what im saying. Let them be happy kung mag fanboi siya sa chosen brand niya all his life. Doon siya masaya. Haha. Icorrect na lang ng tama kase wala tayo magagawa if ayun yung experience niya na kahit ang tagtag and eh tuwang tuwa siya. And even tag tag and sulit are subjective. LOL. Pag may nag claim base on his experience. Wala tayong magagawa doon experience niya yon. All we can do is provide info about our own naman. Parang review vs review lang yan eh. Kung may 100 reviews at 5 lang doon says the otherwise compared sa 95 Let the lurkers be the judge kase sila yung hindi pinaka bias dito. Dahil sila pipili pa lang.


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    Quote Originally Posted by quinametzin View Post
    one example is here^^^. Don't be swayed by someone's opinion. Choose what really suits your needs. Yung anong gusto mo, saan ka mas masaya, comportable, kampante, may peace of mind etc! Wag kayong naghahanap ng validation sa iba dahil pera niyo yan. Kahit anong piliin niyo may masasabit masasabi sila. Hahahaha!


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    i guess thas the problem, bile ka ng Japan PPV durable nga pero di ka naman safe sa magnanakaw, bile ka ng non-Jap hindi nga ganun ka durable pero kahit iwan mo nakabukas walang kukuha ng car mo

    yun lang ang dapat na basehan sa pagpili ng car. not the engine displacement, features etc. so decisions simplified dba

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    i guess thas the problem, bile ka ng Japan PPV durable nga pero di ka naman safe sa magnanakaw, bile ka ng non-Jap hindi nga ganun ka durable pero kahit iwan mo nakabukas walang kukuha ng car mo

    yun lang ang dapat na basehan sa pagpili ng car. not the engine displacement, features etc. so decisions simplified dba
    D naman lagi about car. Yun laman nya sa loob . Such as celfone laptop. Nakita ko sa nlex gas station for stopover. Yun crv ninakawan ng laptop. Dko maalala kung binasag glass but then . Criminal do pay toll fees for their business. Or pwede rin nagkataon na criminal nag stop over para sa refreshment nakakita ng opportunity.

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    Kahit sa ibang forums, mas mabigat talaga daw arangkada ng eve compared sa monty at fort. Though if you bought a 3.2 eve model and paying that kind of amount, siyempre pipilitin mo sarili mo na exceptional yung performance niya compared sa fort at monty. HAHAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatchuPichu0324 View Post
    Kahit sa ibang forums, mas mabigat talaga daw arangkada ng eve compared sa monty at fort. Though if you bought a 3.2 eve model and paying that kind of amount, siyempre pipilitin mo sarili mo na exceptional yung performance niya compared sa fort at monty. HAHAHAHA

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    Not an isolated case. May mga fort, monty, tb and mux owners din na ganyan. Clarification, hindi lahat pero meron bawat group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatchuPichu0324 View Post
    Kahit sa ibang forums, mas mabigat talaga daw arangkada ng eve compared sa monty at fort. Though if you bought a 3.2 eve model and paying that kind of amount, siyempre pipilitin mo sarili mo na exceptional yung performance niya compared sa fort at monty. HAHAHAHA

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    Wag masyadong fan-boy at hater. It's getting old...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatchuPichu0324 View Post
    Kahit sa ibang forums, mas mabigat talaga daw arangkada ng eve compared sa monty at fort. Though if you bought a 3.2 eve model and paying that kind of amount, siyempre pipilitin mo sarili mo na exceptional yung performance niya compared sa fort at monty. HAHAHAHA

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    Compared sa monty medyo patas pa. Pero sa fort I pretty damn sure na talagang malayo ang difference. Oh well hindi nga naman patas. Sa australia nga sa prado nila minamatch ang eve lol.

    Like they've said, let us be happy with our chosen car. Everything is subjective naman eh. But please be reasonable when you post something here. There are a lot of members and lurkers here that reads out posts to decide which PPV to buy. Hindi yung kesyo sabi ni ano sabi ni ganyan ano daw si ganito. You all know what I mean.

    Hindi naman ako nangangarera sa daan. Basta ako happy sa 3.2 ko. Hindi ko kailangan diinan ng todo ang gas pedal or press a power mode button whenever I need to overtake. [emoji16]

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    Ohhhhhh the saltiness. Love it. HAHAHA

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    Sama mo pa mahindra sa inaayawan ng carnapper hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokong22 View Post
    Sama mo pa mahindra sa inaayawan ng carnapper hehe

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    sino naman ang ka-karnap ng official sasakyan ng pulis station?
    heh heh.

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    Pero seryoso, sabi ng asawa ng tita ko sa US, Ford daw yung worst brand dun, di niya na mention kung bakit pero nasabi niya na "thats why you see a lot of Honda, Toyota and Lexus in the streets coz theyre the most reliable ones out there"

    Sa pangit ng service nila dun, nagihing stereotype na, if Ford gamit mo, poor ka ganun. Same goes to Chevy. Sikat dito sa pinas kasi siyempre, American Brand. Although maganda rin features niya, the best probably dito sa pinas, pero brand yung issue dito para sakin. Reliability wise nope. We wouldve got a Ford if it werent for it.

    FYI di bias tong post na to, just sharing what the husband of my tita said before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatchuPichu0324 View Post
    Pero seryoso, sabi ng asawa ng tita ko sa US, Ford daw yung worst brand dun, di niya na mention kung bakit pero nasabi niya na "thats why you see a lot of Honda, Toyota and Lexus in the streets coz theyre the most reliable ones out there"

    Sa pangit ng service nila dun, nagihing stereotype na, if Ford gamit mo, poor ka ganun. Same goes to Chevy. Sikat dito sa pinas kasi siyempre, American Brand. Although maganda rin features niya, the best probably dito sa pinas, pero brand yung issue dito para sakin. Reliability wise nope. We wouldve got a Ford if it werent for it.

    FYI di bias tong post na to, just sharing what the husband of my tita said before.

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    over twenty-five years ago, my dear, now-departed dad already voiced out his opinion.
    "why buy a ford (or chevy or etc...) when the japanese car is so much more reliable?

    i wonder... is it the lousy design, or is it the ill-trained mechanics..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    over twenty-five years ago, my dear, now-departed dad already voiced out his opinion.
    "why buy a ford (or chevy or etc...) when the japanese car is so much more reliable?

    i wonder... is it the lousy design, or is it the ill-trained mechanics..?
    Both. Their features are great. But it stops there tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatchuPichu0324 View Post
    Both. Their features are great. But it stops there tbh.

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    Not just features... pati performance...

    Remember the best Vehicles in thw world doesnt come from japan... its from european countries.. even the best engine in the world is not japanese...

    You dont buy a car only because its reliable.....

    You buy it for its overall performance....

    And besides... lahat naman yan will last for 10-15 years.... unless nalang Kung WALA KA NANG BALAK MAGPALIT ng sasasakyan for the rest of your life....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    over twenty-five years ago, my dear, now-departed dad already voiced out his opinion.
    "why buy a ford (or chevy or etc...) when the japanese car is so much more reliable?

    i wonder... is it the lousy design, or is it the ill-trained mechanics..?
    Japan made vehicles.. yes its reliable...

    Toyota and mitsubishi is now made in thailand...

    you cant say thats its still toyota... iba and quality pag galing japan... iba din ang quality pag galing India or thailand...

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