BATTLE OF THE NEW SUV's - All New Everest vs 2016 Montero vs 2016 Fortuner

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If one will look at this artist rendering, the SUV navarra is relatively easy to build. Dont know why they are not enthusiastic about ladder frames




Or maybe because of the Nissan Diesel Terrano that is sweeping India and Malaysia. Yun na lang dalhin nila para may diesel SuV naNissan

What category papasok Nissan Terrano or Pathfinder? Baka sa compact suv din sila, wala pa midsize suv Nissan.

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If one will look at this artist rendering, the SUV navarra is relatively easy to build. Dont know why they are not enthusiastic about ladder frames




Or maybe because of the Nissan Diesel Terrano that is sweeping India and Malaysia. Yun na lang dalhin nila para may diesel SuV naNissan

What category papasok Nissan Terrano or Pathfinder? Baka sa compact suv din sila, wala pa midsize suv Nissan.

[minicarph]

Labo mo naman sir eh hindi naman Category ng Juke yung mga Fortuner. Mas Ok pa kung yung Darating na Navara Suv kesa sa Juke ang naka List dyan kasi yun talaga ang katapat ng mga Pick up based Suv .

D ko lang nalagay sa #7 yun Toyota Rush, dalhin na d2 sa 2016

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D ko lang nalagay sa #7 yun Toyota Rush, dalhin na d2 sa 2016

Hi sir minicarph, I understand your point na may advantage mini suv when it comes to the traffic situation dito sa atin. We cannot ignore the fact na ang dami ngayon na ang preference is midsize suv maybe because of the extra 2 small seats and the road conditions (lubak, baha, etc..) Siguro gawa tayo seperate thread to pit compact suv's against midsize suv's.

BTT, we recently got the Everest Trend and currently enjoying it. It just excites me to see yung mga bagong models ng Fort and Monty kasi nakakaumay na yung mga current, sa dami ba naman di ba.

Interesting din to see how the new Eve fairs against the upcoming Forts and Monties.

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[timming_gear]

D ko lang nalagay sa #7 yun Toyota Rush, dalhin na d2 sa 2016

Iba ang Category nun. Sir. Midsize Suv ang pinag uusapan natin at pinag kukumpara natin dito.

[minicarph]

Iba ang Category nun. Sir. Midsize Suv ang pinag uusapan natin at pinag kukumpara natin dito.

Yun Trax nag hinde naman kasama Dylan

[StockEngine]

Mitsu to lose 2nd spot in the 7seat suv market because of high prices next year?

May the Mux be number 2 then.

[siuu3ci]

Curb weights (depending on variants)

Montero - 2045-2070 Kg
Fortuner - 2110-2135 Kg
Everest - 2370-2495 Kg

[EQAddict]

Curb weights (depending on variants)

Montero - 2045-2070 Kg
Fortuner - 2110-2135 Kg
Everest - 2370-2495 Kg

That's a huge difference 425kg between the Everest totl vs montero.

That's 936 pounds almost 1,000 pounds weight difference. That will take a big hit on performance, economy and handling comparisons.

I didn't know the difference was that big. Are these numbers accurate?

[niky]

That's a huge difference 425kg between the Everest totl vs montero.

That's 936 pounds almost 1,000 pounds weight difference. That will take a big hit on performance, economy and handling comparisons.

I didn't know the difference was that big. Are these numbers accurate?

The Everest 4x4 does 0-100 km/h in just a little less time than the old Fortuner 4x4... despite having a 40 hp and two gear advantage.

[siuu3ci]

That's a huge difference 425kg between the Everest totl vs montero.

That's 936 pounds almost 1,000 pounds weight difference. That will take a big hit on performance, economy and handling comparisons.

I didn't know the difference was that big. Are these numbers accurate?

These are taken from practicalmotoring.com australia review. Though it may vary in countries but I dont think the margins will become close. I guess its safe to put 350kg-400kg difference since the performance already shows proof anyways

https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car...tralian-drive/

https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car...ions-released/

[gundam]

Curb weights (depending on variants)

Montero - 2045-2070 Kg
Fortuner - 2110-2135 Kg
Everest - 2370-2495 Kg

Significant yan ah. I can feel the difference nga sa hila ng car ko sa full tank compared sa near empty fuel tank.

[frostmourn]

Curb weights (depending on variants)

Montero - 2045-2070 Kg
Fortuner - 2110-2135 Kg
Everest - 2370-2495 Kg

What a huge difference.

[sirLancelot]

Curb weights (depending on variants)

Montero - 2045-2070 Kg
Fortuner - 2110-2135 Kg
Everest - 2370-2495 Kg

Pasensya na if medyo idiotic question, does this mean alot ba sir?

[siuu3ci]

Pasensya na if medyo idiotic question, does this mean alot ba sir?

Yes curb weights means a lot in terms of acceleration and fuel efficiency. Or better yet call it power-to-weight ratio.

In general, the lighter the car the better fuel efficiency and acceleration. Of course this is one factor alone but for me is a major one.

[Monty]

Parang 5 adults yung sakay sa Montero 2.4 4x2.

[HUMABOL KA]

Yes curb weights means a lot in terms of acceleration and fuel efficiency. Or better yet call it power-to-weight ratio.

In general, the lighter the car the better fuel efficiency and acceleration. Of course this is one factor alone but for me is a major one.

OT:
i think this video is the perfect example how power-to-weight ratio affects the overall performance of a car

AGERA VS BUGATTI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DH5j4PYp-o

on paper the bugatti is up by 60 hp and also has more torque that is up by as much as 300 nm compared to the agera. but the drawback lies on the curb weight of the bugatti.

[HUMABOL KA]

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[HUMABOL KA]

Curb weights (depending on variants)

Montero - 2045-2070 Kg
Fortuner - 2110-2135 Kg
Everest - 2370-2495 Kg

perhaps maybe the reason why ford decided to upgrade its 2.2 engine is because of its heavy curb weight, and even with the upgraded 2.2 tdci it did not really have a significant effect on the acceleration department of the car especially with the everest.

JUST A COMPARISON ON THE ACCELERATION OF THESE NEW SUV'S
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEpAfM8ej2M- acceleration of everest 2.2 TDCI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YPMaEWbxnI- acceleration of everest 3.2 TDCI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64NXlPUPUZU- acceleration of toyota fortuner 2.4 2GD V(wala pang video ng 2.8 GD eh).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3bqJ_-zqzA- acceleration of mitsubishi pajerosport(monterosport) 2.4 MIVEC 4x4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlw1j-s_VxQ- acceleration of mitsubishi pajerosport(monterosport) 2.4 MIVEC 4x2.

[viper888]

perhaps maybe the reason why ford decided to upgrade its 2.2 engine is because of its heavy curb weight, and even with the upgraded 2.2 tdci it did not really have a significant effect on the acceleration department of the car especially with the everest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEpAfM8ej2M

The original 2.2 was said to be laggy. The new engine got a small power bump and reduction of lag. But yes, they probably upgraded it to handle the everest's considerable mass.


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[Eevie]

Yes, I was validating my purchase but we are also actually looking to replace our other 10 year old SUV. My wife wanted the new Monty, told her to wait until we have test driven the Fortuner before making the decision. I think the new Monty will do just fine.