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    #1981
    Quote Originally Posted by zoomzoom View Post
    It all boils down to REPUTATION. And here in the Philippines, FORD has a very BAD REPUTATION.

    Pag sinabing FORD, nasa isipan ng mga mamimili eh:

    1) Mahal ang sasakyan
    2) Mahal ang piyesa
    3) Mahal ang maintenance
    4) Pangit ang after-sales service
    5) Hindi matibay ang sasakyan (compared to, say, Toyota)
    6) Sirain (hello focus, hello fiesta)
    7) LOW resale value
    8) etc. etc.

    Ford cars RELIABILITY issues!!!

    Ford Fiesta Issues
    i got two Ford trucks, the previous Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer and now the Wildtrak. the thing is the real reason why Filipinos think Fords are unreliable is becuase they can't afford the parts. so expensive parts means pinagpapaliban ng amateur Pinoy owner yun pagapapalit ng Ford parts niya. that's really it.

    but Fords are indeed built-tough coz my Ford truck Eddie Bauer is one. what I do is frequent the American forums for advice. not the FGP kasi obvious naman mga puro pagkatipiran mga tao dun.

    so hayun, how much do I spend with my Ford EXplorer yearly, 2,500. P2000 for 5 liters orig Motorcraft 5W-30 FS Oil and P350 for the orig Motorcraft Oil Filter, + P150 sa Gasoline service change oil. that's my biggest secret hehe, and I get a truck that's so reliable and has prestige.

    most fords are here and abroad change fluids and other major consumable parts like belts and sparkplugs are scheduled for replacement every 100,000 miles. take note miles. my FE is now 12 years old at 45KTKM mileage. wala pa ako pinapalitan kahit ano sa engine. with regards to suspension, America is also a manufacturing hub in the world, they really sell good aftermarket parts like the Moog and others. mas mura pa nga eto sa mga Japanese suspension parts.

    kaya pag may naririnig ako na sabi di reliable ang Ford or Fix or Repair Daily, I let them. I let them become stupid and buy those Isuzus and Mitsus na kada PMS eh to the tune of Pho 12K to 18K lol. sinong naloloko sa crowd mentality.


    I also trained myself for engine detailing and cleaning, I do it personally every sunday as a hobby so I get to memorize my Fords. maybe sometime in the future, I can get a Jeep commander as a hobby, and you know what I can make it as durable as any PPVs now coz like I said I train myself and I'm not afraid of problems.

    to filipinos, reliability is spend less on parts, then harabas. but that's only becuase most filipinos never really tinker on their own cars.

    to me, I can get an everest now, and I can make it last for 20 years sa nalalaman ko sa Ford engines.

    ang okey pa sa mga Ford. it's park and forget. subukan nyo i-park yan mga Toyota or Isuzu nyo sa mga iskinita or say mga batangas port going to the beach, sigurado di kayo makampante kasi Hot car mga PPVS nyo, if there is a will, there's a way , pwede ma-carnap kasi dami meron, alam ang sikreto kung paano i-bypass ang security ng kotse nyo . but Fords, carnappers takot carnapin yan kasi baka gumastos pa sila

    how's that for peace of mind. so next thing you discuss things like Fords are unreliable and the Toyotas and Mitsus are not, siguraduhin nyo lag lagyan ng lock ang spare tire nyo lagi lol

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    #1982
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    nagamit ko na yan ABS ko sa SF ko, kungdi na rear end ko yun buong rear compartment nun corolla na tumigil, but that's only because I was speeding half-parallel sa kanya, kung pantay kami sapol siguro yun. but the ABS is good, parang may kumalas na tunog lata sa steering pero it kept both me and the vehicle in front of me safe.

    yun tunog na pag nag-engage ang ABS, parang yun tunog pa nag-activate yun anti-collision mitigation system ng Ranger ko. I've had 4 near misses with the ranger too. grabe kase ranger parang kotse manakbo so soft and so light yet so tall and trucky.

    kung ako tatanungen nyo, the best PPV if you are like into comfort and richly experience, it would the Everest - Ranger line-up. Fords are really so good nowadays , tama si glenn, parang walang difference na nga siguro sa Explorer gasoline.
    Yet the everest 3.2 runs heavier than 3.0 mux both in top and mid end. Cguro sa bigat ng body. 160kmh top . Malaks na vibration and engine noise

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    #1983
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    i got two Ford trucks, the previous Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer and now the Wildtrak. the thing is the real reason why Filipinos think Fords are unreliable is becuase they can't afford the parts. so expensive parts means pinagpapaliban ng amateur Pinoy owner yun pagapapalit ng Ford parts niya. that's really it.

    but Fords are indeed built-tough coz my Ford truck Eddie Bauer is one. what I do is frequent the American forums for advice. not the FGP kasi obvious naman mga puro pagkatipiran mga tao dun.

    so hayun, how much do I spend with my Ford EXplorer yearly, 2,500. P2000 for 5 liters orig Motorcraft 5W-30 FS Oil and P350 for the orig Motorcraft Oil Filter, + P150 sa Gasoline service change oil. that's my biggest secret hehe, and I get a truck that's so reliable and has prestige.

    most fords are here and abroad change fluids and other major consumable parts like belts and sparkplugs are scheduled for replacement every 100,000 miles. take note miles. my FE is now 12 years old at 45KTKM mileage. wala pa ako pinapalitan kahit ano sa engine. with regards to suspension, America is also a manufacturing hub in the world, they really sell good aftermarket parts like the Moog and others. mas mura pa nga eto sa mga Japanese suspension parts.

    kaya pag may naririnig ako na sabi di reliable ang Ford or Fix or Repair Daily, I let them. I let them become stupid and buy those Isuzus and Mitsus na kada PMS eh to the tune of Pho 12K to 18K lol. sinong naloloko sa crowd mentality.


    I also trained myself for engine detailing and cleaning, I do it personally every sunday as a hobby so I get to memorize my Fords. maybe sometime in the future, I can get a Jeep commander as a hobby, and you know what I can make it as durable as any PPVs now coz like I said I train myself and I'm not afraid of problems.

    to filipinos, reliability is spend less on parts, then harabas. but that's only becuase most filipinos never really tinker on their own cars.

    to me, I can get an everest now, and I can make it last for 20 years sa nalalaman ko sa Ford engines.

    ang okey pa sa mga Ford. it's park and forget. subukan nyo i-park yan mga Toyota or Isuzu nyo sa mga iskinita or say mga batangas port going to the beach, sigurado di kayo makampante kasi Hot car mga PPVS nyo, if there is a will, there's a way , pwede ma-carnap kasi dami meron, alam ang sikreto kung paano i-bypass ang security ng kotse nyo . but Fords, carnappers takot carnapin yan kasi baka gumastos pa sila

    how's that for peace of mind. so next thing you discuss things like Fords are unreliable and the Toyotas and Mitsus are not, siguraduhin nyo lag lagyan ng lock ang spare tire nyo lagi lol
    Well ganon din maningil ang ford casas or even higher pa. Sa mitsu naman may pms plus so oil lang bayad upto 30 k km. Yun isuzu ko never naman nakatikim ng pms ng kasa since new dahil sa taas maningil ng casa. Running at 15k km now in 2 yrs. bought all orig consumable parts from thailand . Regardless of brand parepareho lang naman. But mitsu isuzu and toyota have so many aftermarket parts available than ford. So the cost is lower. With regards to carnap. Pa insured mo to have peace of mind.

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    #1984
    The fastest PPV i drove and owned was the Trailblazer. Hands down it was the most powerful and you really experienced it in everyday situations. But the interior sucked. I guess the facelifted one is better. Braking distance wasnt bad but for these types of cars but you do have to give allowance due to the weight.

    I think the fortuner will have no problem accelerating past 160 kmh. But you will be tempting fate at the speed in a car whose center of gravity is that high.

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    #1985
    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    The fastest PPV i drove and owned was the Trailblazer. Hands down it was the most powerful and you really experienced it in everyday situations. But the interior sucked. I guess the facelifted one is better. Braking distance wasnt bad but for these types of cars but you do have to give allowance due to the weight.

    I think the fortuner will have no problem accelerating past 160 kmh. But you will be tempting fate at the speed in a car whose center of gravity is that high.

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    Minsan nga ill do a test between our 3.2Eve and ltz trail... 0-100 and quarter mile run..

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    #1986
    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    The fastest PPV i drove and owned was the Trailblazer. Hands down it was the most powerful and you really experienced it in everyday situations. But the interior sucked. I guess the facelifted one is better. Braking distance wasnt bad but for these types of cars but you do have to give allowance due to the weight.

    I think the fortuner will have no problem accelerating past 160 kmh. But you will be tempting fate at the speed in a car whose center of gravity is that high.

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    what i like most with the TBZ is when going up to Baguio... i really appreciate its torque!
    on older versions i totally agree that its interior sucks, engine is noisy and heavy steering wheel.
    but i've test driven the new variant and most of my gripes were addressed/corrected.

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    #1987
    New Trailblazer has better steering and handling. Interior looks better, too. But aside from the power, it doesn't have the wow factor over other competitors.

    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Minsan nga ill do a test between our 3.2Eve and ltz trail... 0-100 and quarter mile run..
    It'd be a massacre.

    The Everest takes around 11-12 seconds to hit 100 km/h.

    The Trailblazer does it in around 9.

    -

    Quarter mile... now that would be interesting.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #1988
    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    The fastest PPV i drove and owned was the Trailblazer. Hands down it was the most powerful and you really experienced it in everyday situations. But the interior sucked. I guess the facelifted one is better. Braking distance wasnt bad but for these types of cars but you do have to give allowance due to the weight.

    I think the fortuner will have no problem accelerating past 160 kmh. But you will be tempting fate at the speed in a car whose center of gravity is that high.

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    The Trailblazer is quite quick for its size. Normally, the Fiesta Ecoboost has enough quickness to get past most PPVs but not the Trailblazer. On the road, I have noticed Trailblazers to accelerate more quickly than most PPVs. However, you can't expect it to be as quick as the more powerful CUVs, midsize sedans, and the more powerful compacts.

    I once encountered an aggressive driver scooting his previous gen Fort 3.0L on SLEX. His vehicle seem to lose steam past 150 kmh. I guess the newer gen Forts would be about the same in performance.

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    #1989
    Quote Originally Posted by boybit View Post
    Yet the everest 3.2 runs heavier than 3.0 mux both in top and mid end. Cguro sa bigat ng body. 160kmh top . Malaks na vibration and engine noise
    Tried 180kph at tplex. Feels planted and stable especially with 7 people on board. And surprisingly quite inside no one even noticed I was speeding na. Also tried the fort 2.4V at sctex. 120kph pa lang parang galit na galit na makina sa ingay.

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    #1990
    Quote Originally Posted by vin23 View Post
    Tried 180kph at tplex. Feels planted and stable especially with 7 people on board. And surprisingly quite inside no one even noticed I was speeding na. Also tried the fort 2.4V at sctex. 120kph pa lang parang galit na galit na makina sa ingay.

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    What's the engine speed of your fort *120kph?

    Our diesel 2.4g m/t *120 kph is at around sub-1900rpm's. . . can't really say na me galit ng mararamdaman at those engine speeds

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