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    Fellow Tsikoteers:

    Our company is contemplating to either get a Toyota Avanza 1.3E or a Suzuki APV Bare Model. Either will be used to transport our agents and clients. And we also plan to use it for delivery of our goods, on the average, around 500kg at a time.

    Which one will be your pic? I hope those who own either one can give feedback on payload capacity, fuel consumption and overall reliability.

    Thanks!

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    Our company opted to purchase the bare model of the APV simply because it's cheaper. :lol:

    Kidding aside, the APV has more grunt than the Avanza. Quite useful if it's jam packed with engineers & their equipment. It also has a slight advantage in terms of interior space.

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    for me, i see the APV as the better one.
    why? it can be used for business affairs as well as goods and people carrier.

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    The interior of the Avanza is just so... plain... compared to anything else... but I believe the 1.3 version should be a little more economical than the 1.6 APV (MT to MT).

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Locally, there is no 1.3E Avanza.

    The APV has more space than the Avanza and is heavier. The 1.3J Avanza has a better power to weight ratio than the APV.

    All local Avanzas have dual aircon. Not all models of the APV are dual aircon.

    1.3 DOHC VVTi vs 1.6 SOHC carb engine. This 2 engines almost have the same power and torque.
    Last edited by meledson; January 23rd, 2008 at 05:19 PM.

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    Baka 1.3J ang ibig sabihin nang TS.

    mukhang mas malaki nga ang APV.. it can sit 8.. so mas marami kang maisasakay.. mas marami ka ring mailalagay na cargo.. kaya lang wala yatang aircon sa likod ang bare na APV.. tsaka mas malakas ang consumo sa gas nang APV.

    Mas madami din akong nakikitang Avanza kesa APV.

    Available na yata test drive nang Avanza ngayon.. so maganda dyan.. eh i test drive mo pareho.. then you decide.

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    check m din yung APV and Avanza threads.. madami ka makukuhang info don..

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    check m din yung APV and Avanza threads.. madami ka makukuhang info don..
    I bumped the thread para mabasa mo. Daming info na ang nakalagay dito.

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    Hi Guys!

    Sorry, I was referring to the Avanza 1.3J pala.

    Qwerty and Meledson, salamat sa link. It's indeed helpful.

    M2, kamusta actual fuel consumption ng APV niyo? Big deciding factor kasi ito.

    Thanks to all again!

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    APV mga 7 to 9 Km per liter.

    I have a 1.3J avanza. for severral months now my FC is between 12 to 14 typically. I average at about 13 Km per liter mixed city and hiway. I am not an "economical" driver.
    Last edited by meledson; January 24th, 2008 at 03:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpy555
    M2, kamusta actual fuel consumption ng APV niyo? Big deciding factor kasi ito.

    Thanks to all again!
    Transport for people or goods... I think thats a job for the roomier APV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpy555 View Post
    Hi Guys!

    Sorry, I was referring to the Avanza 1.3J pala.

    Qwerty and Meledson, salamat sa link. It's indeed helpful.

    M2, kamusta actual fuel consumption ng APV niyo? Big deciding factor kasi ito.

    Thanks to all again!
    Balitaan mo na lang kami kung alin sa dalawa ang nabili. :D

    Basically, sa space lamang ang APV. Sa economy, lamang ang Avanza J. Looks? This is subjective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpy555 View Post
    M2, kamusta actual fuel consumption ng APV niyo? Big deciding factor kasi ito.
    As I remember from our budget worksheets, they tagged it at around 8-10km/L, which is pretty standard for 1.6L devoid of variable timing. As I remember, the APV peeps here are also getting pretty similar figures for their A/T equipped rides (and the basic M/T will definitely be more economical).

    Btw, the company got the APV pretty cheap c/o discounts. Will check how much they paid for it.

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    So how many kms do you get per liter on the Manual APVs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpy555 View Post
    Fellow Tsikoteers:

    Our company is contemplating to either get a Toyota Avanza 1.3E or a Suzuki APV Bare Model. Either will be used to transport our agents and clients. And we also plan to use it for delivery of our goods, on the average, around 500kg at a time.

    Which one will be your pic? I hope those who own either one can give feedback on payload capacity, fuel consumption and overall reliability.

    Thanks!
    Both van are reliable.

    APV because of the space and cheaper than the Avanza J (not E).
    Fuel Consumption: Sa City driving panalo and Avanza bacause 1.3 ang makina. APV mga 6-8 Km per liter ang konsumo. Sa high driving tabla lang (13-14 Km per liter). Walang aircon sa likod ang APV, kung gusto mo ng aircon ng APV, go to Suzuki pasig (600K ang price). Pero kung delivery at bihira ang sumasakay APV na walang arcon sa likod (nasa 565K).

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    Sino ang magpapagas? office? then FC is not an issue unless yan ang priority ng office..

    Since clients and employees ang gagamit, its better to get a car which offers the best ride and features..

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    Baka 1.3J ang ibig sabihin nang TS.

    mukhang mas malaki nga ang APV.. it can sit 8.. so mas marami kang maisasakay.. mas marami ka ring mailalagay na cargo.. kaya lang wala yatang aircon sa likod ang bare na APV.. tsaka mas malakas ang consumo sa gas nang APV.

    Mas madami din akong nakikitang Avanza kesa APV.

    Available na yata test drive nang Avanza ngayon.. so maganda dyan.. eh i test drive mo pareho.. then you decide.
    YUn APV base na may aircon sa likod available sa Suzuki Pasig. Nasa P605K ang price.

Avanza 1.3E or APV Basic