Apples to Oranges: All-New Toyota Altis or Nissan XTrail 2.0 or Honda City 1.5EL?

**cherice** · January 3rd, 2014 10:48 PM

All-New Toyota Altis has a long waiting list and offers no cash discounts. We're also told that to be "prioritized" in the unit allocation, we have to go for in-house financing. Cash or company PO transactions will most likely take much longer to be given a unit. We're looking at the 1.6G AT variant which is pegged at 935K.

Meanwhile, Nissan is offering the 2.0 AT variant pegged at 1.085M with a cash discount of 86K. This will allow us to get a subcompact SUV for only 999K, which is the same price of the new Altis 1.6V variant. The unit is available readily so that means we will be able to get the new car asap! A very tempting offer indeed.

On the periphery is the Honda City 1.5EL, which, being TOTL, has leather seats and very posh looking on the inside. Plenty of nice buttons to play around with. Price is at 871K, no cash discount currently being offered.

I know these 3 belong to different categories, but if you were to assess it individually, how would you rate each? And how would you make your choice?

PS
My last ride was also an Altis matic. The new Altis is thus our default choice but the long waiting time and in-house financing catch are a bit of a disappointment. I prefer the Xtrail, but my husband is doubtful of Nissan's maintenance costs and availability of parts...

**_Cathy_** · January 3rd, 2014 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by cherice

I know these 3 belong to different categories, but if you were to assess it individually, how would you rate each? And how would you make your choice?

I am looking into buying the same unit - 1.6 G A/T. I have been told as well that there will be no discounts. I expected that already since it's a new model. I am bargaining for free LTO but that would mean I would be bumped into the end of the waiting list. I would still go for Toyota, I don't mind the long waiting time. Subok na Toyota e. The Honda City you are considering may be TOTL but it is still a subcompact. I would still go for the bigger car. Re Nissan, in my lifetime, we've never owned one, unless datsun is also nissan (?), so for some reason, I never really considered the brand

**jut703** · January 3rd, 2014 11:09 PM

Do you need a new car right now already?
If you don't, a little patience goes a long way for the Altis.

What X-Trail is this that's netting 999k? If it's the old body, forget it. If it's the current one (with the CVT), that's a more modern car with lots of space, but be prepared for the higher running costs of an SUV vs a sedan (gas, tires, parts, etc).

I'd rank it:
1. Altis - new model, reliable brand, easy to own
2. X-Trail - higher ground clearance, more space
3. City - cheapest, also frugal, but very unexciting

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**cherice** · January 3rd, 2014 11:27 PM

Thanks both for your prompt replies! Much appreciated!

*cathy_for_you: Did your SA tell you how long you will be waiting for the unit allocation?

*jut703: Is the CVT the same with nissan continuously variable valve timing control? that's the one in the 2.0L AT variant we are looking at...

**_Cathy_** · January 3rd, 2014 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by cherice

Thanks both for your prompt replies! Much appreciated!

*cathy_for_you: Did your SA tell you how long you will be waiting for the unit allocation? ...

Nope. Their launching it on the 2nd week of January ata. I might drop by the casa then.

**brainmafia_310** · January 3rd, 2014 11:56 PM

i suggest wait for a month or two, when the new vios (3rd gen) is coming out, wala daw discount na kayang ibigay sa akin toyota. so i end up buying gen 2.5 with lots of discount (around 150k for 1.3 G M/T).

i was surprised that after 2 or 3 months of launching the 3rd gen vios, eto na umuulan na ng discounts again.

kung hindi ka naman picky, at major facelift alng ang meron sa altis, why not go to the old model and haggle for a bigger and better discount. just my 2 cents.

hth.

**cherice** · January 4th, 2014 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by brainmafia_310

i suggest wait for a month or two, when the new vios (3rd gen) is coming out, wala daw discount na kayang ibigay sa akin toyota. so i end up buying gen 2.5 with lots of discount (around 150k for 1.3 G M/T).

i was surprised that after 2 or 3 months of launching the 3rd gen vios, eto na umuulan na ng discounts again.

kung hindi ka naman picky, at major facelift alng ang meron sa altis, why not go to the old model and haggle for a bigger and better discount. just my 2 cents.

hth.

We were really after the old gen, since it looks more classy than sporty. And lots of discounts! But they ran out of units before we could get one, only the black MT variants were left at the time and we were looking for an AT variant...

**brainmafia_310** · January 4th, 2014 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by cherice

We were really after the old gen, since it looks more classy than sporty. And lots of discounts! But they ran out of units before we could get one, only the black MT variants were left at the time and we were looking for an AT variant...

hmmm... i suggest you look at toyota abad santos. usually when you visit the casa they ahve a board wherein it displayed the top seller to almost non performing dealership within the metro. i suggest you hunt down the non performing dealership for better and bigge discounts especially on month ends. oh by the way, most of them have surplus units din.

**[archie]** · January 4th, 2014 12:40 AM

Xtrail vs Altis? No question, I'll take the xtrail (that is kung handa na mashock sa gas consumption).

**vvti2.0** · January 4th, 2014 01:07 AM

Di naman ata pwede i-compare ang fuel consumption ng 1.6 at 2.0, lalo na magkaibang maker ng makina heheheh....

Parehas na nga 2.0 same maker pa, iba pa rin ang consumption.

Sabi nila x-trail is around 5-6 km/l mixed highway and city driving.