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  1. Join Date
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    #11
    Quote Originally Posted by cnxpr08 View Post
    its just for city driving.
    ano kaya ok 2nd hand jazz,vios,city,accent or a b.new chevy spark 1.2 m/t

    things to be considered:

    1.
    F.C. and safety
    2. Parts and Maintenance
    3. Performance (ok lng if di maxadong mabilis basta kayangkaya kami e.transport from a to b) :D
    4. Space (max 4pax and my cute baby)
    5. Looks ( i don't really care sa looks as long as it performs at its best ok na ako dun)

    Btw I have a very tight budget for this 2nd car kasi nag.iipon pa ako for our main car w/c is SUV for 2013.
    My budget would be 600k max,good for b.new spark 1.2 m/t.
    I prefer m/t, kakaantok kasi a/t.
    I suggest you get the Carens 6M/T CRDi. Around 2007-2008 models will fit your budget. Its quite comfortable and roomy enough for your purpose. Performance is very, very good and it already has such safety features as ABS/EBD, airbags, and a modern crash structure.

    If you want something more rugged and mainstream, then the Innova it is. However, resale value of this car is very high. You will be able to get 2005-2007 models depending on the variant. And then, if I remember right, the earlier variants do not have ABS and airbags. Performance is good enough though not spectacular, fuel efficiency though is very good. Underpinnings are also very solid, being a ladder frame MPV with a Hilux-based chassis.

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    #12
    kung ako lang hindi ako susugal sa secondhand kia esp. carens or any hyundai cars second hand diesel, PMS napakamahal, PMS palang patay kana, pano pa pag may nasira? EGR magkano?
    baka yung pang gatas at vaccine ni baby mapunta lang sa kotse or hindi magmit yung biniling kotse dahil hindi mapagawa
    or hindi na machange oil sa mahal


    get the vios or city 2009 kung 600k ang budget
    city : every 10k km change oil siguro isang taon ka bago change oil kung city driving lang.. gas nalang problemahin mo, dami parts sa banawe
    vios: every 5k km change oil, mura and madami parts...

    yung matitipid mo sa PMS pambili mo nalang ng maliit na stroller pag 1 year old na si baby LOL
    more than enough naman siguro space ng vios or city dibale nalang kung pati crib bitbit nyo pag alis

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    #13
    A foldable crib won't fit in the Vios trunk with the stroller, unless it's a really small collapsible one (which sucks for malling). Stroller and crib WILL fit in the City trunk.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by 3GEMS View Post
    kung ako lang hindi ako susugal sa secondhand kia esp. carens or any hyundai cars second hand diesel, PMS napakamahal, PMS palang patay kana, pano pa pag may nasira? EGR magkano?
    baka yung pang gatas at vaccine ni baby mapunta lang sa kotse or hindi magmit yung biniling kotse dahil hindi mapagawa
    or hindi na machange oil sa mahal


    get the vios or city 2009 kung 600k ang budget
    city : every 10k km change oil siguro isang taon ka bago change oil kung city driving lang.. gas nalang problemahin mo, dami parts sa banawe
    vios: every 5k km change oil, mura and madami parts...

    yung matitipid mo sa PMS pambili mo nalang ng maliit na stroller pag 1 year old na si baby LOL
    more than enough naman siguro space ng vios or city dibale nalang kung pati crib bitbit nyo pag alis
    Hahaha~ Bro, it's not that bad. Modern Korean diesels are relatively reliable, having Bosch injection systems. Much more so than Toyota's finicky Denso pumps. Maintenance for all modern diesels are more expensive than their gasoline counterparts, be it Korean or Japanese. But the situation is very much magnified since you only do maintenance every few months or so, or even just twice a year depending on how much you use the vehicle. Consider that we have had the Trooper 4JX1, the king of all CRDi lemons, for eight years. Maintenance didn't really bite much. Even at this age, EGR only needs to be cleaned, not replaced, turbo needed to be repaired (but we're swindled into replacing), injectors replaced for free and alternator replaced with a higher capacity unit. Not really a lot considering that it is a notorious lemon using 1st gen CRDi technology and is now already ten years old. Change oil is mga 3-4k, depending on brand, for 8L of motor oil every 5tkms, mura lang naman ang oil filter. Not so bad, is it?

    *TS: 5 pax ang isasakay mo lagi jan. It would be better kung may extended capacity para kung may isasama ka. And for out of town trips, you need space to put the stuff of all five folks, including the baby, who usually has the most stuff. IMHO, hindi na OK ang sedan para sa ganon, kahit sabihin mo pang midsize sedan yan.

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    #15
    Bibili naman si TS ng SUV next year daw... or whenever. So baka gusto nya lang ng city car

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    #16
    Oonga but still... Ang hirap talaga if you have to cram the baby's bag and stroller along with a week or two's worth of groceries for five folks and various other stuff from the mall in the trunk of a sedan. Naku po, kahit siguro yung trunk ng Accord namin mahirapan diyan, yung mga subcompact pa kaya. Tiyak na luluhod na yan! And then if you get a small car, you have to figure the space needed for the car seat. Malaking space din ang kinakain niyan. I remember before with our 1997 Accord, nilagyan namin ng car seat, katamtaman lang talaga, eh ang laki ng backseat niyan.

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    #17
    For your budget, you can actually have a 2008-2010 Altis 1.6 E or G. That car has one hell of a trunk that would have no problem fitting your baby's stroller. It's also spacious, and it's really economical for a 1.6L car. 10 km/l in city driving isn't unusual.

    I come from a family of 5, and throughout my life we've only ever owned sedans. It was never a problem, even when my younger siblings had strollers.
    Last edited by jut703; May 1st, 2012 at 07:41 PM.

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    #18
    to all,im very sorry i forgot to mention that most of the time kami lng 3 ni misis at baby magkasama sa joy riding sa city.sayang kasi yung space masyadong malaki tapos 3 lng kami just like what happend before nung sportivo xmax gamit namin,walang katatao sa likuran,kaya ok lng sa amin sedan.

    Gustong gusto kasi ni baby kasama siya sa lakad namin, the other 2pax will just go along w/us in case we really needed someone to take cake care of my baby,busy kami ni misis minsan tapos nagtatalo pa,kawawa si baby. di kasi aq kumukuha ng yaya para close sa amin si baby. Kaya optional na yung 2pax kasi busy din minsan tita at mga cousins ko para magbantay kay baby.
    Anyways my other concerned is not to choose a very huge car for our 2nd car kasi di na magkasya sa garahe pag meron na suv,may nakapark pa ditong pick up at auv na isuzu,kaya 1st thing that comes out in my mind is the minicar spark,but for the fact na mini siya wala masyadong space for my babies stroller and his other huge toys.

    Out na talaga sa list ko yung innova,carens,advie at lalong lalo na ang xwind,hahaha.
    I'm looking for a sedan now for our tight budget,my problem now wala pa sa akin yung pera,hahaha.
    Yung ma2 ko may nahanap na vios at nasa kanya pa yung pera ko good luck sa amin,but mas gusto ko yung city or civic.
    What about avanza?ok ba toh?nakasay ako ng taxi na avanza j,ang tagtag parang xwind din.
    Ok ba yung suspension nung avanza2012?

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    #19
    You can try Grand Livina, good ride and more space than a sedan. Kung may budget, Legacy Wagon.

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    #20
    Ayaw mo ng CUV? Para at least merong mas malaking trunk space, and also higher ground clearance. A 3rd gen CRV M/T or 1st gen Tucson CRDi (A/T only but with manual shift override, so pwede na rin siguro?) will fit your budget, though still with a bit of haggling. And then I would suggest you reconsider the Carens. It's dimensions are actually quite similar to that of a compact sedan. Very convenient actually, suits your needs very much, IMHO.

    Kung sedan lang talaga, then I suppose you just go get the newest FD you can get.

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