2022 Honda HR-V vs Ford Territory

[Verbl Kint]

All-new HR-V was just announced while the Territory has been one of the best sellers of the pandemic era.

Which one would you choose and why?

[Egan101]

All-new HR-V was just announced while the Territory has been one of the best sellers of the pandemic era.

Which one would you choose and why?

My in-laws bought a Ford Territory last July. Oks naman. It looks big for its size but interior space is a bit smaller than our Mitsubishi ASX. Lots of good features though.

If you ask me, I would save 200k more by buying the Geely Coolray. No difference in size and features but you get a livelier car to drive.


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[Verbl Kint]

My in-laws bought a Ford Territory last July. Oks naman. It looks big for its size but interior space is a bit smaller than our Mitsubishi ASX. Lots of good features though.

If you ask me, I would save 200k more by buying the Geely Coolray. No difference in size and features but you get a livelier car to drive.


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A relative got a Territory too. I actually liked it.

I also test-drove the Coolray and was definitely impressed. It definitely drove better than the Territory.

[ice15]

All-new HR-V was just announced while the Territory has been one of the best sellers of the pandemic era.

Which one would you choose and why?

I would choose the HR-V because I own a Honda and have personally experienced PMS from Honda Manila Bay, Las Pinas and now Makati.

2 times a year but PMS can be completed in a couple of hours (as long as you arrive on time for your appointment)
Then you have Honda SPA if you no longer want your PMS outside the dealership
*I have never tried Honda spa.

Was thinking of buying a Territory earlier but was turned-off by Ford Philippines' local support.

Some (Territory FB Group) members mentioned the service center required 2 days for their PMS.

The old Vezel was a popular Grab car in Singapore and I personally prefer it over the CH-R.

[Verbl Kint]

Honda HR-V 1.5 S CVT Honda SENSING -- P1,250,000
Honda HR-V 1.5 V Turbo CVT Honda SENSING -- P1,598,000

At these prices, it really just looks like Honda is banking on its branding, customer loyalty, and dealership trust.

I think it will be hard for the nouveau riche to choose the underpowered base model over the likes of the Ford Territory, MG HS, and the Geely Coolray.

Good thing the car looks good and has Honda Sensing. Honda PH has been great too, so definitely a plus. The spirited driver will probably prefer a different car for the price but traffic-stuck urbanites will end up liking this HR-V very much.

Meanwhile, the TOTL is already within earshot of the base model CR-V, other base model PPV's (the base model Mu-X is actually cheaper), and the Hybrid Corolla Cross, which I personally think is a better deal.

[ice15]

Meanwhile, the TOTL is already within earshot of the base model CR-V, other base model PPV's (the base model Mu-X is actually cheaper), and the Hybrid Corolla Cross, which I personally think is a better deal.

This is not the first time I'm seeing this statement...

But for me, the CR-V and other 7 seaters out there is not for everyone.

A single driver will probably think twice before choosing a 7 seater over a 5 seater.

Then there's the HR-Vs "exclusivity" which is important to some people.

Honda sold less than 1K units of the old Gen HR-V... I see less than 10 HR-Vs in our village.

If you want to be different, the HR-V is a nice choice and since it uses the same engine (non-Turbo and probably CVT) of the new City, it will also be easy to maintain.

[Verbl Kint]

This is not the first time I'm seeing this statement...

But for me, the CR-V and other 7 seaters out there is not for everyone.

A single driver will probably think twice before choosing a 7 seater over a 5 seater.

Then there's the HR-Vs "exclusivity" which is important to some people.

Honda sold less than 1K units of the old Gen HR-V... I see less than 10 HR-Vs in our village.

If you want to be different, the HR-V is a nice choice and since it uses the same engine (non-Turbo and probably CVT) of the new City, it will also be easy to maintain.

The new HR-V looks really good, too. I have a feeling it will sell as much as the previous generation did.

[TheUninvited]

The new HR-V looks really good, too. I have a feeling it will sell as much as the previous generation did.

Highly doubt it. Wala pang Coolray/Territory and the likes before.

This will be a hard-sell for Honda, foh sure.

[glntVR]

This is not the first time I'm seeing this statement...

But for me, the CR-V and other 7 seaters out there is not for everyone.

A single driver will probably think twice before choosing a 7 seater over a 5 seater.

Then there's the HR-Vs "exclusivity" which is important to some people.

Honda sold less than 1K units of the old Gen HR-V... I see less than 10 HR-Vs in our village.

If you want to be different, the HR-V is a nice choice and since it uses the same engine (non-Turbo and probably CVT) of the new City, it will also be easy to maintain.

Honda actually sold more than 7k units of the 2nd Gen HR-V. Easily sold over 1.5k/year in the first 3 years.

That's true, it shares a lot of parts with majority of Honda models so maintenance will be easy for the N/A and Turbo.

[Egan101]

The base model CRV is the 2.0L gas model. It only has seats for 5 people. It is one of the most spacious CUVs in the market today (similar to the Forester).

The HRV 1.5L Turbo may have a more potent engine compared to CRV 2.0L gas but the CRV is the better family vehicle.


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[TheUninvited]

The base model CRV is the 2.0L gas model. It only has seats for 5 people. It is one of the most spacious CUVs in the market today (similar to the Forester).

The HRV 1.5L Turbo may have a more potent engine compared to CRV 2.0L gas but the CRV is the better family vehicle.


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Sa pricepoint na yan, no-brainer to choose the HR-V instead. It's bigger than ever, very close na sa size ng CR-V, it has Honda Sensing na din.

Malapit na din all-new CR-V.

[glntVR]

Sa pricepoint na yan, no-brainer to choose the HR-V instead. It's bigger than ever, very close na sa size ng CR-V, it has Honda Sensing na din.

Malapit na din all-new CR-V.

The CR-V is still far more spacious vs. the HR-V. Tons of rear seat legroom, wider but biggest upgrade is in the cargo capacity
so this will attract those who need space.

Vs. the current CR-V, the HR-V will offer better (more updated) tech and better power in a still practical package.

[babkalakal]

The base model CRV is the 2.0L gas model. It only has seats for 5 people. It is one of the most spacious CUVs in the market today (similar to the Forester).

The HRV 1.5L Turbo may have a more potent engine compared to CRV 2.0L gas but the CRV is the better family vehicle.


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i'm rooting for honda. our family had civics or accords in the 90s. my sister owns a crv diesel currently) there is a market for 1.5 gasoline powered cuvs. from the reviews i think this is a nice offering. i like the interior even if it is a bit "black". i just hope honda isn't too late to the party or priced itself out of the competition. both things they may have done in the past.

[Egan101]

i'm rooting for honda. our family had civics or accords in the 90s. my sister owns a crv diesel currently) there is a market for 1.5 gasoline powered cuvs. from the reviews i think this is a nice offering. i like the interior even if it is a bit "black". i just hope honda isn't too late to the party or priced itself out of the competition. both things they may have done in the past.

1.5L turbo is much better compared to 1.5L NA. Mahina yung 1.5L NA for small crossovers, better yan for subcompact cars like City or Vios.


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[glntVR]

1.5L turbo is much better compared to 1.5L NA. Mahina yung 1.5L NA for small crossovers, better yan for subcompact cars like City or Vios.


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Quite subjective actually. Probably for a lot of customers this has enough power. Looking forward to test driving the 1.5 base HR-V and see how it compares
to the previous 1.8. I have a feeling performance will be similar with better CVT tuning and the DOHC engine. The old 1.8 didn't really feel powerful

[Verbl Kint]

Just got back from a quick trip to the MG dealership near my office.

I was thoroughly impressed by the MG HS. It's the size of a CX-5 and just as premium inside (I noticed design cues from the Merc B-class -- no joke). The salesguy wasn't as knowledgeable with the product, sadly, but I do hear it's got 169hp and 250Nm which should work great with its paddle shifters (7-speed DCT).

Size, great interior, 5-star rating by Euro NCAP, plus a lot of driving aids (again, salesguy was no help), makes this a great value at about 1.2M. Couldn't cop a test drive, unfortunately, but from the bits and pieces I've seen online from the Aussies and Brits, it seems to be a decent drive (probably not as good as the Coolray or the CX-5).

It looks like the MG HS will probably be another best-seller, for sure.

[Egan101]

Quite subjective actually. Probably for a lot of customers this has enough power. Looking forward to test driving the 1.5 base HR-V and see how it compares
to the previous 1.8. I have a feeling performance will be similar with better CVT tuning and the DOHC engine. The old 1.8 didn't really feel powerful

The big difference in torque figure is not subjective between a gas NA engine versus a gas turbo engine. Peak torque is easily achievable in turbo engines (2k rpm vs 4k rpm) and usually, it is 60% more on similar displacements.

The ASX and the XT both have 2.0L displacements but the XT is turbocharged. There is a big difference in output on a regular drive, even if the XT is heavier.

The same comparison applies between a Honda City 1.5L NA versus a Civic 1.5L turbo.


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