2018 Toyota Hilux G 4x4 MT vs 2018 Nissan NP300 VL 4x4 MT

[GTi]

For someone like me who has no need for the hauling capabilities of a pickup, it is like buying half an SUV with a long, topless trunk attached to the rear. [emoji23] Some people find pickups attractive, but I personally find them impractical for city driving, and have deterred my father from getting one on several occasions. I honestly find the base model 15 seater FB body variant one of the most practical vehicles ever made. Now if they could do the same with the top variant a la LC70 troop carrier plus the zero tax on pickups, that would be a very different story for me...

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[Walter]

Also averse to purchasing a pickup ... but then the Ford Ranger Raptor came along ... wonder if they would consider making a Ford Everest Raptor ...

Also because of the new tax scheme ... one might want to start considering a pickup ... it's deisel, high ground clearance and tax free ... hard to beat ...

[LN106G]

Also averse to purchasing a pickup ... but then the Ford Ranger Raptor came along ... wonder if they would consider making a Ford Everest Raptor ...

Also because of the new tax scheme ... one might want to start considering a pickup ... it's deisel, high ground clearance and tax free ... hard to beat ...

yep. But practicality will win you over longterm if you own a pickup. Like when going to manila with several people on board and you know you cant put your stuff in the bed coz you dont want them stolen while queuing in traffic, its doubly hard to park now with pickup trucks esp in places with congested parking not to mention difficulty in maneuvering it owing to its length, prices of its tire set are much expensive compared to sedans and MPV's/AUV's, the bed is not much used maximally per annual calendar, etc..

These day to day duties can be carried out by AUV's or with the L300 FB probably with more grace esp during rainy season....

but of course, its a different story if you use your pickup for farming, hauling, delivery, etc

to each his own at the end of the day....

[Walter]

yep. But practicality will win you over longterm if you own a pickup. Like when going to manila with several people on board and you know you cant put your stuff in the bed coz you dont want them stolen while queuing in traffic

Practicality is why a pickup is being considered ... it's tax free ... vs buying an SUV with tax ... more or less 300T difference ... to protect your items in the pickup bed, one can install a tri-fold bed cover ...

What's not to like about a pickup ... it's diesel ... high ground clearance ... has the creature comforts and gizmos of a modern sedan ... ride quality can be remedied by putting something heavy in the bed ...

[GTcervan]

Practicality is why a pickup is being considered ... it's tax free ... vs buying an SUV with tax ... more or less 300T difference ... to protect your items in the pickup bed, one can install a tri-fold bed cover ...

What's not to like about a pickup ... it's diesel ... high ground clearance ... has the creature comforts and gizmos of a modern sedan ... ride quality can be remedied by putting something heavy in the bed ...

The practicality he's pointing out might be about the characteristic of driving or handling a pickup when compared to an suv or a car, not the price of it or etc. Because the pickup has a much longer wheelbase due to its extended length, it gives burden to drivers because it is much harder to turn and park within tight spaces plus the blind spot it gives on its rear end but that can be remedied by installing a backup camera. I think it is ideal for those people who buy it for its real purpose, not just for porma or because it is cheaper than their ppv counterpart.

[GTcervan]

Also averse to purchasing a pickup ... but then the Ford Ranger Raptor came along ... wonder if they would consider making a Ford Everest Raptor ...

Also because of the new tax scheme ... one might want to start considering a pickup ... it's deisel, high ground clearance and tax free ... hard to beat ...

Di na sila maglalabas ng Raptor dyan sa Everest nang dahil lang naglabas sa Ranger. Mas lalo pa magiging overpriced yun at didikit na sa presyo ng Explorer kaya malamang di magiging mabenta yan pag ginawa nila yun.

[StockEngine]

Di na sila maglalabas ng Raptor dyan sa Everest nang dahil lang naglabas sa Ranger. Mas lalo pa magiging overpriced yun at didikit na sa presyo ng Explorer kaya malamang di magiging mabenta yan pag ginawa nila yun.

in the Philippines.. mabenta yun Titanium+

Everest Raptor versions will sell well... if it were sold here. 7 seats will sell...



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[GTcervan]

in the Philippines.. mabenta yun Titanium+

Everest Raptor versions will sell well... if it were sold here



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Pero if priced similarly (or more) with an Explorer or a Pajero, then I'd still get any of the latter kasi kahit Raptor pa yang Everest, di na masyadong unique yun. Dami na din sa kalsada niyan eh. At iba padin ang level ng Explorer at Pajero sa Everest.

[StockEngine]

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[Egan101]

A new Everest with the Ranger Raptor's 2.0L turbo diesel is a big probability as manufacturers tend to reuse engines across platforms. However, that new Everest will not have the sport-tuned suspension of the Ranger Raptor.

Much like in the US with the F150 Ecoboost, Expedition Platinum, and the Raptor - similar platform, similar engines but different output tuning and suspension.

[StockEngine]

A new Everest with the Ranger Raptor's 2.0L turbo diesel is a big probability as manufacturers tend to reuse engines across platforms. However, that new Everest will not have the sport-tuned suspension of the Ranger Raptor.

Much like in the US with the F150 Ecoboost, Expedition Platinum, and the Raptor - similar platform, similar engines but different output tuning and suspension.

those fox shox alone cost 200,000+ 🤣

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[godwhacker]

A new Everest with the Ranger Raptor's 2.0L turbo diesel is a big probability as manufacturers tend to reuse engines across platforms. However, that new Everest will not have the sport-tuned suspension of the Ranger Raptor.

Much like in the US with the F150 Ecoboost, Expedition Platinum, and the Raptor - similar platform, similar engines but different output tuning and suspension.

in just a short period of time, even Ford has to admit that comfort does counts. we should not forget that when a navarra is pitted against a ranger, wether reviews, youtube videos would always favor the leaf spring. and even here, navara has been ridiculed and maligned. if this is true then Ford is joining the bandwagon...

Ford rejects Ranger Raptor 2.0-litre engine backlash

"The Raptor is about the suspension, it's about the chassis and it's about [us] breaking the bank on the chassis, the suspension, the architecture, the shocks… those four shocks cost as much as a small engine, and that's not an exaggeration.

"That's what the Raptor is – it's not about horsepower, it's not about torque; it's having enough horsepower and enough torque to do the job but it's not a focal point."

Gone are the Ranger's rear leaf springs – the Raptor gets coil springs, Watt's link set-up, and solid rear axle – and its much-hyped suspension includes Fox Racing Shox dampers, front and rear, designed for fast, hard-core off-road driving and offering up greater wheel travel, with 46.6mm pistons for front and rear. The shocks – categorised as Position Sensitive Damping – are designed to cop the worst of undulating terrain at high speeds. "

so the rear coil spring is gaining ground and to summarize:
1. Mercedes X - copy and paste
2. Ford Raptor - copy and maybe paste
3. Toyota ???
4. Mitsubishi ???

[GTi]

I'd say the Ranger Raptor is "going soft" the way it was spec'd. It's really more of a lifestyle vehicle than anything else. While the 2.0 biturbo is no pussy, it would probably be better appreciated in a smaller vehicle, or even a van. Call me old fashioned, but I believe a bigger, unstressed engine would be a better match for this car.

While power may not be the selling point of this car, considering its level of equipment and expected price range, people will definitely expect more. Heck, if I'd hear the words "Ranger Raptor", I'd fully expect everything they did with the suspension, plus the new 3.0V6 turbo diesel developed for the F150.

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[godwhacker]

I'd say the Ranger Raptor is "going soft" the way it was spec'd.

and the nex time you knew,,, when someone says "comfort"

1. ford ranger raptor
2. nissan navara

WOW!

[GTi]

^Have you checked out both units at the showroom? I suggest you get a feel of the vehicle along with your family. Have a test drive if available.

Ever considered the D-Max? Durability, reliability and resale value should not be any less than the Hilux's. Known to have excellent fuel efficiency too.

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[sean-archer]

Try driving both. The feel should be the primary factor. Other factors, magkakalapit lang naman siguro yan.

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[GTi]

I would only consider a pickup a practical vehicle if I can have it converted into a troop carrier with side facing benches in the bed a la L300. [emoji23] I remember seeing government issue 1st gen double cab Hilux's in this configuration.

For most hauling needs, with 2nd and 3rd rows up, our Carnival can actually rise to the occasion with a loading area that is longer and wider (though not taller) than any single cab pickup bed cab can ever dream to have. In fact, I have an aunt who uses their Carnival for delivery duties in their perishable goods business during coding day of their delivery vehicle.

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[Nonick750]

Considerations include:

1. Durable and Reliable
2. Riding Comfort
3. Easy and Cheap to maintain (hindi mahirap hanapin ang piyesa)
4. Looks
5. Fuel Consumption
6. Value for money (sulit)
7. Resale value

Hilux lahat yan sir

[Walter]

Toyota Hilux has one of the stiffest suspension ... even the Toyota Fortuner has stiff ride ...