2018 Toyota Hilux G 4x4 MT vs 2018 Nissan NP300 VL 4x4 MT

**Sleepcare** · February 5th, 2018 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by trucker111

so for hilux, suspension modification (like bilstein, toughdog etc.) is a must?

i wonder why toyota didn't address this issue of tagtag in this new model? i doubt if they are not aware of it.

Yes!

I guess they wanted to be on the other side of the fence since abroad, they are really taking the word "utility" seriously.

**Egan101** · February 5th, 2018 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by trucker111

so for hilux, suspension modification (like bilstein, toughdog etc.) is a must?

i wonder why toyota didn't address this issue of tagtag in this new model? i doubt if they are not aware of it.

Maybe Toyota thought that pickup trucks should be that way. If you want a comfortable ride, they want you to buy a Camry or a RAV4.

**StockEngine** · February 5th, 2018 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by trucker111

so for hilux, suspension modification (like bilstein, toughdog etc.) is a must?

i wonder why toyota didn't address this issue of tagtag in this new model? i doubt if they are not aware of it.

new hilux roccos in Thailand have revised suspensions

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**LN106G** · February 7th, 2018 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by trucker111

so for hilux, suspension modification (like bilstein, toughdog etc.) is a must?

i wonder why toyota didn't address this issue of tagtag in this new model? i doubt if they are not aware of it.

Its NOT a must as ride quality is highly subjective. PU trucks here in the Philippines are delegated “sedan” duties almost 90% of the time by its owners and not what its supposed to do. Utility. Try loading 500-600kg up in the new Navarra and you will understand the suspension setup of the Hilux. If you are in the market for a new family vehicle or personal car (that will not see hauling), the Hilux is not for you. Abroad (Australia, Africa, SA, etc,) pickups are mostly for utility (Farming, mining, hauling, etc). Here in the PI, we dress them up and used as regular car. And then we complain about their suspension...😂

**JJB** · February 7th, 2018 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by LN106G

Its NOT a must as ride quality is highly subjective. PU trucks here in the Philippines are delegated “sedan” duties almost 90% of the time by its owners and not what its supposed to do. Utility. Try loading 500-600kg up in the new Navarra and you will understand the suspension setup of the Hilux. If you are in the market for a new family vehicle or personal car (that will not see hauling), the Hilux is not for you. Abroad (Australia, Africa, SA, etc,) pickups are mostly for utility (Farming, mining, hauling, etc). Here in the PI, we dress them up and used as regular car. And then we complain about their suspension...[emoji23]

+1000 on this

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**dr. d** · February 7th, 2018 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by LN106G

Its NOT a must as ride quality is highly subjective. PU trucks here in the Philippines are delegated “sedan” duties almost 90% of the time by its owners and not what its supposed to do. Utility. Try loading 500-600kg up in the new Navarra and you will understand the suspension setup of the Hilux. If you are in the market for a new family vehicle or personal car (that will not see hauling), the Hilux is not for you. Abroad (Australia, Africa, SA, etc,) pickups are mostly for utility (Farming, mining, hauling, etc). Here in the PI, we dress them up and used as regular car. And then we complain about their suspension...😂

and, they are long and not easy to park.

**GTcervan** · February 7th, 2018 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by LN106G

Its NOT a must as ride quality is highly subjective. PU trucks here in the Philippines are delegated “sedan” duties almost 90% of the time by its owners and not what its supposed to do. Utility. Try loading 500-600kg up in the new Navarra and you will understand the suspension setup of the Hilux. If you are in the market for a new family vehicle or personal car (that will not see hauling), the Hilux is not for you. Abroad (Australia, Africa, SA, etc,) pickups are mostly for utility (Farming, mining, hauling, etc). Here in the PI, we dress them up and used as regular car. And then we complain about their suspension...😂

Only bought for their infamous road presence...

Just kidding. 😂

**Walter** · February 8th, 2018 12:08 PM

Ford Ranger Raptor ... ticks almost all the boxes ...

**GTi** · February 8th, 2018 07:14 PM

For someone like me who has no need for the hauling capabilities of a pickup, it is like buying half an SUV with a long, topless trunk attached to the rear. [emoji23] Some people find pickups attractive, but I personally find them impractical for city driving, and have deterred my father from getting one on several occasions. I honestly find the base model 15 seater FB body variant one of the most practical vehicles ever made. Now if they could do the same with the top variant a la LC70 troop carrier plus the zero tax on pickups, that would be a very different story for me...

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**Walter** · February 9th, 2018 11:03 AM

Also averse to purchasing a pickup ... but then the Ford Ranger Raptor came along ... wonder if they would consider making a Ford Everest Raptor ...

Also because of the new tax scheme ... one might want to start considering a pickup ... it's deisel, high ground clearance and tax free ... hard to beat ...