2018 Toyota Hilux G 4x4 MT vs 2018 Nissan NP300 VL 4x4 MT

[LN106G]

Also averse to purchasing a pickup ... but then the Ford Ranger Raptor came along ... wonder if they would consider making a Ford Everest Raptor ...

Also because of the new tax scheme ... one might want to start considering a pickup ... it's deisel, high ground clearance and tax free ... hard to beat ...

yep. But practicality will win you over longterm if you own a pickup. Like when going to manila with several people on board and you know you cant put your stuff in the bed coz you dont want them stolen while queuing in traffic, its doubly hard to park now with pickup trucks esp in places with congested parking not to mention difficulty in maneuvering it owing to its length, prices of its tire set are much expensive compared to sedans and MPV's/AUV's, the bed is not much used maximally per annual calendar, etc..

These day to day duties can be carried out by AUV's or with the L300 FB probably with more grace esp during rainy season....

but of course, its a different story if you use your pickup for farming, hauling, delivery, etc

to each his own at the end of the day....

[GTcervan]

Also averse to purchasing a pickup ... but then the Ford Ranger Raptor came along ... wonder if they would consider making a Ford Everest Raptor ...

Also because of the new tax scheme ... one might want to start considering a pickup ... it's deisel, high ground clearance and tax free ... hard to beat ...

Di na sila maglalabas ng Raptor dyan sa Everest nang dahil lang naglabas sa Ranger. Mas lalo pa magiging overpriced yun at didikit na sa presyo ng Explorer kaya malamang di magiging mabenta yan pag ginawa nila yun.

[StockEngine]

Di na sila maglalabas ng Raptor dyan sa Everest nang dahil lang naglabas sa Ranger. Mas lalo pa magiging overpriced yun at didikit na sa presyo ng Explorer kaya malamang di magiging mabenta yan pag ginawa nila yun.

in the Philippines.. mabenta yun Titanium+

Everest Raptor versions will sell well... if it were sold here. 7 seats will sell...



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[GTcervan]

in the Philippines.. mabenta yun Titanium+

Everest Raptor versions will sell well... if it were sold here



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Pero if priced similarly (or more) with an Explorer or a Pajero, then I'd still get any of the latter kasi kahit Raptor pa yang Everest, di na masyadong unique yun. Dami na din sa kalsada niyan eh. At iba padin ang level ng Explorer at Pajero sa Everest.

[Egan101]

A 7-seater PPV based off a Ranger Raptor??? Unless you plan on punishing your rear passengers for each ride, it will just be too uncomfortable.

The Ranger Raptor uses a different suspension setup and geared more for performance. Those coilovers will give it a nasty stiff ride.

[StockEngine]

A 7-seater PPV based off a Ranger Raptor??? Unless you plan on punishing your rear passengers for each ride, it will just be too uncomfortable.

The Ranger Raptor uses a different suspension setup and geared more for performance. Those coilovers will give it a nasty stiff ride.

everest titanium + +++

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[StockEngine]

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[Egan101]

A new Everest with the Ranger Raptor's 2.0L turbo diesel is a big probability as manufacturers tend to reuse engines across platforms. However, that new Everest will not have the sport-tuned suspension of the Ranger Raptor.

Much like in the US with the F150 Ecoboost, Expedition Platinum, and the Raptor - similar platform, similar engines but different output tuning and suspension.

[StockEngine]

A new Everest with the Ranger Raptor's 2.0L turbo diesel is a big probability as manufacturers tend to reuse engines across platforms. However, that new Everest will not have the sport-tuned suspension of the Ranger Raptor.

Much like in the US with the F150 Ecoboost, Expedition Platinum, and the Raptor - similar platform, similar engines but different output tuning and suspension.

those fox shox alone cost 200,000+ 🤣

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[godwhacker]

A new Everest with the Ranger Raptor's 2.0L turbo diesel is a big probability as manufacturers tend to reuse engines across platforms. However, that new Everest will not have the sport-tuned suspension of the Ranger Raptor.

Much like in the US with the F150 Ecoboost, Expedition Platinum, and the Raptor - similar platform, similar engines but different output tuning and suspension.

in just a short period of time, even Ford has to admit that comfort does counts. we should not forget that when a navarra is pitted against a ranger, wether reviews, youtube videos would always favor the leaf spring. and even here, navara has been ridiculed and maligned. if this is true then Ford is joining the bandwagon...

Ford rejects Ranger Raptor 2.0-litre engine backlash

"The Raptor is about the suspension, it's about the chassis and it's about [us] breaking the bank on the chassis, the suspension, the architecture, the shocks… those four shocks cost as much as a small engine, and that's not an exaggeration.

"That's what the Raptor is – it's not about horsepower, it's not about torque; it's having enough horsepower and enough torque to do the job but it's not a focal point."

Gone are the Ranger's rear leaf springs – the Raptor gets coil springs, Watt's link set-up, and solid rear axle – and its much-hyped suspension includes Fox Racing Shox dampers, front and rear, designed for fast, hard-core off-road driving and offering up greater wheel travel, with 46.6mm pistons for front and rear. The shocks – categorised as Position Sensitive Damping – are designed to cop the worst of undulating terrain at high speeds. "

so the rear coil spring is gaining ground and to summarize:
1. Mercedes X - copy and paste
2. Ford Raptor - copy and maybe paste
3. Toyota ???
4. Mitsubishi ???

[GTi]

I'd say the Ranger Raptor is "going soft" the way it was spec'd. It's really more of a lifestyle vehicle than anything else. While the 2.0 biturbo is no pussy, it would probably be better appreciated in a smaller vehicle, or even a van. Call me old fashioned, but I believe a bigger, unstressed engine would be a better match for this car.

While power may not be the selling point of this car, considering its level of equipment and expected price range, people will definitely expect more. Heck, if I'd hear the words "Ranger Raptor", I'd fully expect everything they did with the suspension, plus the new 3.0V6 turbo diesel developed for the F150.

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[godwhacker]

I'd say the Ranger Raptor is "going soft" the way it was spec'd.

and the nex time you knew,,, when someone says "comfort"

1. ford ranger raptor
2. nissan navara

WOW!

[Walter]

A 7-seater PPV based off a Ranger Raptor??? Unless you plan on punishing your rear passengers for each ride, it will just be too uncomfortable. The Ranger Raptor uses a different suspension setup and geared more for performance. Those coilovers will give it a nasty stiff ride.

Um, isn't the Ford Ranger Raptor more comfortable than the regular Ford Ranger ... Leaf spring vs Coil? ... the suspension can also be set to comfort mode? ...

[Egan101]

Um, isn't the Ford Ranger Raptor more comfortable than the regular Ford Ranger ... Leaf spring vs Coil? ... the suspension can also be set to comfort mode? ...

Performance-tuned suspensions are never meant to be comfortable. They are usually stiffer.

Case in point - the regular Impreza is more comfortable in terms of ride stiffness compared to the WRX.


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[Walter]

Coil springs are more comfortable than leaf springs ... the Ford Ranger Raptor is marketed as a lifestyle vehicle and not as a regular pickup hence the suspension is tuned better for comfort rather than for carrying loads ...

[godwhacker]

Coil springs are more comfortable than leaf springs ... the Ford Ranger Raptor is marketed as a lifestyle vehicle and not as a regular pickup hence the suspension is tuned better for comfort rather than for carrying loads ...

ahhh,,, so the atmosphere has changed. Now that Ford has a rear coil spring version of their pickup, a new category is born... "Lifestyle pickup" or , lifestyle vehicle. i wouldn't be surprised if Toyota or Mitsu
will also launch their own "upgraded" rear suspension and call it "the Lifestyle". "air suspension" anyone?

so, indeed, nice marketing term...lifestyle pickup.. and see? Ford is no. 1 spot now...

1. Ford Ranger Raptor
2. Nissan Navara
3. Mercedes X
4. Toyota Lifestyle???
5. MItsu LIfestyle???
6. Isuzu Lifestyle???
7. Colorado Lifesytle???

[GTcervan]

Coil springs are more comfortable than leaf springs ... the Ford Ranger Raptor is marketed as a lifestyle vehicle and not as a regular pickup hence the suspension is tuned better for comfort rather than for carrying loads ...

I think there is a coil spring which is stiffened for a performance setup, like the one found in the ranger raptor. While not as stiff as a leaf spring, I think it is more stiffer than other suvs or pickups with coil springs because the stiffness it has can influence its performance in cornering and may be able to minimize rollovers, etc. because it isn't a soft roader at all. And the stiffer suspension was also probably made for more longevity. Well, that's what I think about it.

[trucker111]

Now back to the topic.

[GTi]

^Have you checked out both units at the showroom? I suggest you get a feel of the vehicle along with your family. Have a test drive if available.

Ever considered the D-Max? Durability, reliability and resale value should not be any less than the Hilux's. Known to have excellent fuel efficiency too.

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[sean-archer]

Try driving both. The feel should be the primary factor. Other factors, magkakalapit lang naman siguro yan.

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