2017 Pajero BK, still a good buy?

[EQAddict]

Remapping of the ecu increases power a lot. I can attest to that. But it also significantly decreases the component lifespan of the engine. There are trade offs. More power means More boost = more heat and more stress which the manufacturers didnt intend for those component parts.

This engine was meant to last hundreds of thousands of kilometers at the stock tune. As long as you know the compromises and are okay with the decreased longevity then its okay. I have chipped many cars and some have had engine light warning flashes on the dashboard after a few months.

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[dr. d]

Remapping of the ecu increases power a lot. I can attest to that. But it also significantly decreases the component lifespan of the engine. There are trade offs. More power means More boost = more heat and more stress which the manufacturers didnt intend for those component parts.

This engine was meant to last hundreds of thousands of kilometers at the stock tune. As long as you know the compromises and are okay with the decreased longevity then its okay. I have chipped many cars and some have had engine light warning flashes on the dashboard after a few months.

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errr... what are these parts that are threatened, po?

[EQAddict]

Pistons, gaskets, rods, transmission etc.

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[monty_GTV]

^ shorter PMS interval too...

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[Walter]

Haha! Lakas ng hatak ng 2017 Pajero, thanks sa VGT! Thinking about adding a diesel chip as future upgrade. This would push the power beyond 200hp

Careful ... the automatic transmission might not be able to handle to additional torque ...

[Walter]

errr... what are these parts that are threatened, po?

Mostly the parts inside and around the engine that relates to power ... it's like giving a person an injection of adrenaline ... he may run faster and longer, jump higher, more strength ... but after the rush ... he will be feeling all sorts of pain in the joints, muscles, etc ...

[Juan Martinez]

if pajero bk could speak, it would say: "why the heck would you inject me with adrenaline when i wasn't built for speed? i carry you to work safely, i carry your children to school safely, i carry you and your family to the mall or to the beach or to wherever you want me to bring them safely. why? do you want me to race with those prados, explorers, fortuners, etc. while you, your children, your family, your in-laws on-board in your kind of roads and in your kind of traffic? if you love speed, you bought the wrong car. try a chiron or a veyron or a pagani or a centenario."

[StockEngine]

if pajero bk could speak, it would say: "why the heck would you inject me with adrenaline when i wasn't built for speed? i carry you to work safely, i carry your children to school safely, i carry you and your family to the mall or to the beach or to wherever you want me to bring them safely. why? do you want me to race with those prados, explorers, fortuners, etc. while you, your children, your family, your in-laws on-board in your kind of roads and in your kind of traffic? if you love speed, you bought the wrong car. try a chiron or a veyron or a pagani or a centenario."

another perspect..

The Truth about Engine ECU Upgrades, Chips & Re-mapping | Auto Expert John Cadogan | Australia - YouTube

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[bjreyesmd]

Thanks for the heads-up guys, will just stick to wheel/tire upgrade for now, hehe. Just felt excited with the 192hp the VGT brought to the 3.2 4M41 engine.

[minicarph]

if pajero bk could speak, it would say: "why the heck would you inject me with adrenaline when i wasn't built for speed? i carry you to work safely, i carry your children to school safely, i carry you and your family to the mall or to the beach or to wherever you want me to bring them safely. why? do you want me to race with those prados, explorers, fortuners, etc. while you, your children, your family, your in-laws on-board in your kind of roads and in your kind of traffic? if you love speed, you bought the wrong car. try a chiron or a veyron or a pagani or a centenario."

Shucks naawa naman ako, pupunta na ako sa garahe ngaun and give it a pat. I didn't know, I'm so feeling awkward and sad ..

[monty_GTV]

Thanks for the heads-up guys, will just stick to wheel/tire upgrade for now, hehe. Just felt excited with the 192hp the VGT brought to the 3.2 4M41 engine.

throttle controller doc, talagang di ka magsisisi [emoji16] sakto kapag nag-upgrade ka ng gulong sa mas mabigat na 20's, para hindi kumupad

btt: my SA reported his gf from another dealership found a color white. i will know in the coming days if pwede nila mahatak for me [emoji848]

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[Juan Martinez]

Thanks for the heads-up guys, will just stick to wheel/tire upgrade for now, hehe. Just felt excited with the 192hp the VGT brought to the 3.2 4M41 engine.

that's way better than the 2018 2.7 I4 4WD prado with 161hp and 246 Nm

[Egan101]

that's way better than the 2018 2.7 I4 4WD prado with 161hp and 246 Nm

Wow, that's too anaemic for such a big platform! Even worse since it is 4WD.

[Shutterbug]

Is this correct? So meaning the current Pajero BK has better engine specs than the more expensive current Prado?

Wow, that's too anaemic for such a big platform! Even worse since it is 4WD.

[jut703]

Is this correct? So meaning the current Pajero BK has better engine specs than the more expensive current Prado?

No. The current local Prado gas comes with a 4.0 V6 engine, shared with the FJ.

It's also available with a 3.0 D4D. The facelifted 2018 version will come with the Fortuner's new 2.8 D4D engine.

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[minicarph]

ayos Prado gagamet ng engine ng fortuner, eh di biglang nawalan ng value yun mga nakabile na ng tig 3M+

[jut703]

ayos Prado gagamet ng engine ng fortuner, eh di biglang nawalan ng value yun mga nakabile na ng tig 3M+

The Prado diesel has always shared the same engine as the Fortuner. There was even a time that the Prado was using the older 131 hp 1KZ engine while the Fort had the updated 160 hp 1KD engine. The Prado was updated only in 2006 to carry the same 1KD as the Fortuner, which the Prado still used until 2017. Only with the facelifted Prado did they update to the newer 1GD engine.

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[monty_GTV]

paper specs lang yan, a manufacturer can indicate a higher power/torque ratings to make it appealing to consumers, for marketing purposes. for torque, gear ratios will give you indication kung anong lakas ng hatak niyan. as an example, my montero gtv base sa specs nasa 178hp. sa actual dyno run nasa 156whp lang. you may say its wheel hp yung sa dyno but at least the manufacturer should have indicated o put a note na yung value nila is engine hp o bhp. you ask a casa technician and they don't even have a clue. the upgraded pajero gtv now says nasa 198hp, pero kapag sa dyno yan, expect the value to be 10-20% less.

[mrstealyourgirl]

paper specs lang yan, a manufacturer can indicate a higher power/torque ratings to make it appealing to consumers, for marketing purposes. for torque, gear ratios will give you indication kung anong lakas ng hatak niyan. as an example, my montero gtv base sa specs nasa 178hp. sa actual dyno run nasa 156whp lang. you may say its wheel hp yung sa dyno but at least the manufacturer should have indicated o put a note na yung value nila is engine hp o bhp. you ask a casa technician and they don't even have a clue. the upgraded pajero gtv now says nasa 198hp, pero kapag sa dyno yan, expect the value to be 10-20% less.

Tama lang naman po ata yung 178hp ng monty. Lahat naman po ata ng manufacturer ay hindi inaadvertise ang wheel hp?


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[Sleepcare]

Tama lang naman po ata yung 178hp ng monty. Lahat naman po ata ng manufacturer ay hindi inaadvertise ang wheel hp?


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Isuzu mux... 158whp against sa 160hp advertised HP