2016 Toyota Fortuner V 4x4 2.8L vs 2016 Isuzu MU-X LS-A 4x4 3.0L

[ClaNker]

Wala akong complain sa econo car with rear drum brakes. However, for an SUV this expensive?

[jut703]

The Fortuner is the second most expensive locally available car with rear drum brakes (the most expensive is the Hiace Grandia LXV but noone's bashing that one). It's a pity, yes. But in the grand scheme of things, is it a dealbreaker?

Save for the handful of people whining online about the drum brakes of the Fortuner, most buyers won't even care. Even if Toyota puts 4-wheel discs, sales of the Fortuner won't exponentially increase.

More people care about a car's looks, its reliability, its ride quality, its comfort, its engine, its resale value, than whether it has discs or drums at the rear.

I'm not saying drums are better than discs, of course not. As has been pointed out, drums are harder to clean. They are also more prone to brake fade, though rear brakes rarely fade even in downhill driving with a full load because much of the braking still falls to the front discs. But for the most part, rear drums do their main job of stopping a car as well as rear discs would.


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[zoomzoom]

Parang siomai. May 5 pesos siomai. May 50 pesos siomai. Pareho laman tiyan. Pareho nakakabusog.

Nakakainis lang Toyota is selling us 5 pesos siomai at 50 pesos. Tubong lugaw, so obvious.

[jut703]

Parang siomai. May 5 pesos siomai. May 50 pesos siomai. Pareho laman tiyan. Pareho nakakabusog.

Nakakainis lang Toyota is selling us 5 pesos siomai at 50 pesos. Tubong lugaw, so obvious.

Pwede namang hindi bumili. Kaso, best seller eh. Ibig sabihin karamihan ng tao may nakikitang iba dun sa 50-peso siomai na mas importante sa kanila kaysa kung pork o beef ba yung loob ng siomai.


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[GTi]

Having driven both a 2012 IPV (disc/drum) and a 2011 Carnival (disc/disc w/ABS), I have to say that the IPV brakes better despite the fact that the Carnival had new brake pads on all fours and new tires too. Somehow the Carnival was just too heavy for the brakes to more confidently stop the car. I have to say that the IPV (or probably D-Max in extension) is the best braking disc/drum car without ABS that I've driven so far.

The only thing I hate about drums is the servicing. Takes a lot of time and ear-splitting hammering to open it up, and longer still to service the shoes and springs inside.

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[Vensong Quezon]

Mas ok ang drum brakes!
Pero kung ginawang all disk brakes ang Fort gaya sa Australia.
Mas ok ang disk brakes!
wag na makipagtalo alam naman na kasi eh.

[ClaNker]

Mas ok ang drum brakes!
Pero kung ginawang all disk brakes ang Fort gaya sa Australia.
Mas ok ang disk brakes!
wag na makipagtalo alam naman na kasi eh.

Toyota for life!

*PATSYS If you have money to burn the go for the fortuner but I highly recommend that hold your purchase until they have resolved the issue with their AT. That is if you're getting one that comes with AT.

[jut703]

Mas ok ang drum brakes!
Pero kung ginawang all disk brakes ang Fort gaya sa Australia.
Mas ok ang disk brakes!
wag na makipagtalo alam naman na kasi eh.

Who's saying that drums are better?


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[viper888]

We have a forester with rear drums and an expedition with 4 wheel discs. Guess what stops better?

I just think drum brakes are a bit crude and cheap today. Just like not having rear parking sensors in basic models....... Oh wait


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[abongon65]

Parang siomai. May 5 pesos siomai. May 50 pesos siomai. Pareho laman tiyan. Pareho nakakabusog.

Nakakainis lang Toyota is selling us 5 pesos siomai at 50 pesos. Tubong lugaw, so obvious.

I was selling same rice sa market with different price tag, what is funny is the one with higher price sells more.