2016 Toyota Fortuner V 4x4 2.8L vs 2016 Isuzu MU-X LS-A 4x4 3.0L

[PATSYS]

Toyota for life!

*PATSYS If you have money to burn the go for the fortuner but I highly recommend that hold your purchase until they have resolved the issue with their AT. That is if you're getting one that comes with AT.

Hi bro, no, I definitely do not have money to burn. If I were to pay extra, it should be for good reasons (fuel economy, durability, etc). Looks also weighs a lot in my car scorecard.

Right now I am torn between buying the 4x4 Fortuner and simply wait next year when the 1.9L DDI Blue Power of Isuzu MU-X will be available.

[jut703]

Mas ok ang drum brakes!
Pero kung ginawang all disk brakes ang Fort gaya sa Australia.
Mas ok ang disk brakes!
wag na makipagtalo alam naman na kasi eh.

Who's saying that drums are better?


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[Vensong Quezon]

Who's saying that drums are better?


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Haven't you read one?
Who else?
Answer: "Fanboys" lots of them.
It's like, here's your drum brakes

Mother knows best.
pero iba din ang ipinapakain sa ibang bata.

[viper888]

We have a forester with rear drums and an expedition with 4 wheel discs. Guess what stops better?

I just think drum brakes are a bit crude and cheap today. Just like not having rear parking sensors in basic models....... Oh wait


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[vinj]

We have a forester with rear drums and an expedition with 4 wheel discs. Guess what stops better?

I just think drum brakes are a bit crude and cheap today. Just like not having rear parking sensors in basic models....... Oh wait


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I have the same sentiments here.

The Fortuner has rear drums, the MU-X has rear disks. But based on my test drives of both (which i mentioned earlier here) that the brakes of the Fortuner are much better in terms of feel and initial bite; thus it will not say necessarily that having rear disk brakes will make the braking system of one vehicle superior over another.

The difference between having rear disks and drums becomes more apparent as you become more demanding on the performance of the vehicle, such as when you run hard on the track or a mountain road where brake feel and cooling requirements become more apparent. Same case with running through deep floods, or trailing a 4x4 rig - it's easier to dry off disks over drums after a fording murky water.

In my case, for a personal daily drive the refinement of the Fortuner 2.4L will win me over but if it's a second car or one for more utilitarian use, I'd plunk down for the MU-X. Although off-the-line the Fortuner feels livelier, the displacement advantage of the MU-X should be more apparent when you're running on the highway.

[goodtj]

mine got crap in it just on the right drum after passing thru 1-2 inches flood water sa pasig c5 flyover that's what's irritating about it

[Monseratto]

Disc brake has better thermal dissipation. So repeated hard braking like in racing, disc brakes win against brake fading.

[jut703]

6 pages at disc brakes pa rin pinaguusapan. 😂

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[GTi]

Perhaps we should change the thread title to disc brake vs. drum brake. 😄

And then again... I've driven disc/drum cars to provinces having to go through lots of mountain roads (Sorsogon with the Strada GLS Sport V and Baguio with the D-Max IPV and Revo diesel). Someone of my average juan driving skills didn't notice any detioration in braking performance at all, even when among the sloping and hilly stuff.

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[turbocharger 71]

Perhaps we should change the thread title to disc brake vs. drum brake. 😄

And then again... I've driven disc/drum cars to provinces having to go through lots of mountain roads (Sorsogon with the Strada GLS Sport V and Baguio with the D-Max IPV and Revo diesel). Someone of my average juan driving skills didn't notice any detioration in braking performance at all, even when among the sloping and hilly stuff.

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correct!

[vinj]

Perhaps we should change the thread title to disc brake vs. drum brake. ��

And then again... I've driven disc/drum cars to provinces having to go through lots of mountain roads (Sorsogon with the Strada GLS Sport V and Baguio with the D-Max IPV and Revo diesel). Someone of my average juan driving skills didn't notice any detioration in braking performance at all, even when among the sloping and hilly stuff.

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Given all is stock, it is possible to overheat the front brake pads, front rotors, or boil your brake fluid first, before the difference between rear drums and rear disks will make itself known.

[edricdude]

no matter what you do in the real world in your SUV/PPV, you won't overheat your drum brakes.
the only advantage disc brake has with drum is that it is easier to fix/repair/replace and maintain.

[3GEMS]

Yung disc brake big deal pero yung naka 2.4 engine ang lower variant fortuner vs 2.8 engine all variant innova walang issue. Ano nangyayare?😢
isipin mo naka fortuner ka 1.7/M nakatabi mo sa traffic yung si manong naka uber na naka bagong innova J pero 2.8. Ansaklap.
Anong rationale kaya ng toyota dito?

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[Egan101]

Yung disc brake big deal pero yung naka 2.4 engine ang lower variant fortuner vs 2.8 engine all variant innova walang issue. Ano nangyayare?😢
isipin mo naka fortuner ka 1.7/M nakatabi mo sa traffic yung si manong naka uber na naka bagong innova J pero 2.8. Ansaklap.
Anong rationale kaya ng toyota dito?

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You pay more for the bling and the demand.

Besides, if you are really leaning towards performance or just the sheer engine displacement, there are other options for 1.7M.

[3GEMS]

You pay more for the bling and the demand.

Besides, if you are really leaning towards performance or just the sheer engine displacement, there are other options for 1.7M.

I know hindi lahat priorities ang engine performance or displacemt. Pero nasa tsikot tayo, yung drum vs disc brake naabot ng 6 pages pero yung innova naka 2.8 vs fortuner 2.4 walang nagrereklamo. Asan ang hustisya? [emoji14]

Gusto ko malaman reason ng toyota bakit ganun kasi affected talaga ako kahit wala ako pambili hehehe



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[Egan101]

Gusto ko malaman reason ng toyota bakit ganun

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It's called marketing and that's why car manufacturers make a whole lot of money.

Even if Toyota decides to put a more lethargic powerplant for the Fortuner, it is still going to sell. In the US, the Camry is still the best selling model in the highly competitive midsize category despite being rated last in comparison tests. It is proof that "good enough" will surely sell with the right marketing. Hehehe

[zoomzoom]

It's called marketing and that's why car manufacturers make a whole lot of money.
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It is proof that "good enough" will surely sell with the right marketing. Hehehe

And diyan magaling ang Toyota - Marketing.

Pag sinabi mo Toyota, nakatatak na sa utak ng maraming Pinoy na:

1) Matibay at reliable.
2) Mura at maraming piyesa.
3) Value for Money.
4) High resale value
5) Matipid sa gas.
6) Good service.

etc. etc.