2013 Kia Sorento vs Montero non/Vgt a/t

[victorevolution]

Lol sobrang troll lang. Kahit badge pinagtripan. Ano naman kalalaman ng badge sa pagiging feeling ng european car. Dahil lang oval siya naging european car na? Malay mo gusto niya gayahin blue oval ng Ford?

So makikisali na rin ako dito even as a GTV owner,

Di ko magets bakit puro "china-plastics" here at "China-plastics" there when Mitsubishi themselves source their plastics in China. Unlike the Sorento which is still produced in their South Korean plant (hence higher price tag), the Montero is being assembled either here in the Philippines or in Thailand.

*Jiggs
Lahat naman ng brands have their own fan base. Well, probably except Opels sold here in the 90s since all I've heard were complaints, but yeah.. lahat meron.

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Let it be known that the Kia Sorento has FAR FAR outsold the Montero on a global scale. Pano naging uso sa Philippines? Location of the Philippines is in close proximity to Japan, they have an actual manufacturing plant here and that drives down taxes and ****, and third world country status.

Di papasa ang Montero sa regulations ng ibang bansa. There's a reason why they don't sell these in America but in the Philippines and India.

meron montero sa america... latin america nga lang even russia meron montero kaso meron din korean cars sa russia kasi mas mura ang korean cars sakanila dahil malapit sa russia but the russian are mitsu fans

yup di papasa sa europe standard ang monty pero sa u.s. papasa sila except the state of california maybe(kindly imagine the old v8 still being used by country folks and old diesel engine) di lang maexport ng mitsu ang montero kasi ayaw ng u.s.a. consumers sa mitsubishi


the only downer of the korean car here is not the car itself but the dealers and main franchiser... i know, i know, madaming horror stories ang mga iba't ibang brand and dealers pero pinakaworst kasi ang sa hyundai and kia...

sorento far far outsold the competitor in the global scale, is due to that they are cheaper, even our german investors wants to buy a sorento and santa fe in germany but he was only stopped by his wife because his wife wanted the bmw x5(this german guy owns a 5 cargo vessels yet he is still frugal)

mitsu. kia. hyundai, tata or whatever the brand,,, all have it's ups and downs

but if you cant stop the bashing then feel free to bash the china made cars, yun pati mga chinese na may pinag aralan alam nilang palpak ang mga vehicles nila save for a few licensed copy of japanese cars

[valskie01]

meron montero sa america... latin america nga lang even russia meron montero kaso meron din korean cars sa russia kasi mas mura ang korean cars sakanila dahil malapit sa russia but the russian are mitsu fans

yup di papasa sa europe standard ang monty pero sa u.s. papasa sila except the state of california maybe(kindly imagine the old v8 still being used by country folks and old diesel engine) di lang maexport ng mitsu ang montero kasi ayaw ng u.s.a. consumers sa mitsubishi


the only downer of the korean car here is not the car itself but the dealers and main franchiser... i know, i know, madaming horror stories ang mga iba't ibang brand and dealers pero pinakaworst kasi ang sa hyundai and kia...

sorento far far outsold the competitor in the global scale, is due to that they are cheaper, even our german investors wants to buy a sorento and santa fe in germany but he was only stopped by his wife because his wife wanted the bmw x5(this german guy owns a 5 cargo vessels yet he is still frugal)

mitsu. kia. hyundai, tata or whatever the brand,,, all have it's ups and downs

but if you cant stop the bashing then feel free to bash the china made cars, yun pati mga chinese na may pinag aralan alam nilang palpak ang mga vehicles nila save for a few licensed copy of japanese cars

Sir i think the montero you mention sa latin america is the pajero nameplate sold here in the philippines and other country. Yung current montero dito sa atin is sa philippine market lang yata. CMIIW.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Pajero


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[valskie01]

Sir i think the montero you mention sa latin america is the pajero nameplate sold here in the philippines and other country. Yung current montero dito sa atin is sa philippine market lang yata. CMIIW.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Pajero


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Oh i stand corrected mitsubishi challenger pala ito sa ibang country. So basically montero sport dapat and it is also sold in other countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Challenger


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[dct]

also mitsubishi owner here. ang non-sense mo dj ian. or troll lang talaga? pride kumpara sa montero, wala na ngang binebentang pride ngayon e

[jhnkvn]

also mitsubishi owner here. ang non-sense mo dj ian. or troll lang talaga? pride kumpara sa montero, wala na ngang binebentang pride ngayon e

Troll lang yan. Even fanboys should know their limitations. I have the same sentiments as dct, as a fellow Mitsu owner, nakakahiya ka saamin. Yun dapat lang naman sa mga ganitong thread is to give pros and cons of the model and your opinion. No need to defend the brand like your life depend on it eh pagbibigyan kita Mitsubishi or Ferrari agad rin naman lilipat ng brand loyalty

[bjreyesmd]

Badge pa lang wala na. Feeling european car hahaha! As in FEELING!

Bro, easy lang. No need to bash. Owned a Montero and Korean SUV, with regards to interior I would say mas better quality nung Korean SUV.

[dj ian]

Kahit anong survey or stats na nakita ko ang layo ng ranking ng mitsu vs. korean cars worldwide. Dito lang sa pinas panalo ang mitsu. Bakit kaya?

Well, ask montero owners.. why they chose montero not sorrento eh ang taas mg ranking worldwide. And syempre, dito sa pinas yan gagamitin hindi worldwide. Sabi ko nga sige isabay nyo gamitin ang sorrento sa mga baha at urban areas dito sa pilipinas.

[rukawa11]

gusto ko sana ng sorento kaya lang ang mahal yung pinakamura na 1.2M eh 5 seater lang yung 7 seater nasa 1.8M.
then parang naka lowered pa sya, mababa masyado compared sa fortuner and montero.
like ko sana yan dahil medyo matipid daw sa diesel. dko lang type yung pagka lowered nya at 5 seater para sa 1.2M

[icon]

For the sake of argument ano ang rated flood fording height ng montero? Parang I read somewhere it's 0.5m din same as the sorento? I'm wondering why mitsu is only saying 0.5m. Or sa vgt engine lang yon but the non vgt can actually ford deeper water?

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[jhnkvn]

For the sake of argument ano ang rated flood fording height ng montero? Parang I read somewhere it's 0.5m din same as the sorento? I'm wondering why mitsu is only saying 0.5m. Or sa vgt engine lang yon but the non vgt can actually ford deeper water?

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Di ko alam why people buy cars for the sake of flood fording. Want advice? Avoid flooded roads. Kasi kung nagkamali ka, kahit ano gawin mo, sasakit ang wallet at ang ulo mo. And even if you do make it across, think your underchassis is happy?

Besides, a few centimeters of "better water fording" is crap to rely on. Ever heard of a lifter?

[s10pao]

Di ko alam why people buy cars for the sake of flood fording. Want advice? Avoid flooded roads. Kasi kung nagkamali ka, kahit ano gawin mo, sasakit ang wallet at ang ulo mo. And even if you do make it across, think your underchassis is happy?

Besides, a few centimeters of "better water fording" is crap to rely on. Ever heard of a lifter?

minsan kasi hindi maiiwasan ung baha lalo na kung bahain sa lugar nyo. pero kung hindi naman dapat lesser priority ung flood fording feature.

[jhnkvn]

minsan kasi hindi maiiwasan ung baha lalo na kung bahain sa lugar nyo. pero kung hindi naman dapat lesser priority ung flood fording feature.

I understand. However, relying on a few centimeters as "insurance" is a risky bet. I don't know why people would risk their car.. especially if it's over a million bucks. If in terms of ground clearance, the difference is 20mm. Of course, other things such as the placement of the intake should also be taken into consideration in water fording.

[yebo]

Ano ba ang "crash speed" na ginagamit sa pag rate ng safety ng isang sasakyan? 120kph ba o between 25-60kph lang for varying test (i.e., frontal, side, pole tests). Hirap mag kompiansa, porket 4 or 5 star akala OK parin kahit 100kph na ang takbo. At 80kph nga minsan unsurvivable pa, lalo na kung 2 vehicle collision. Ang MS itself walang ANCAP testing pero yung Strada meron. And I believe unsafe talaga ang montero sa mga nakaharang sa dadaanan nya.

50kph lang collision test, so any vehicle is untested above 50kph (but not necessarily unsafe).

Btw, whether you crash into a 10 feet thick reinforced concrete wall or crash to another vehicle travelling at the same speed the impact is the same - equal forces are in play. The only big difference is who has the higher bumper.

[glenn_duke]

50kph lang collision test, so any vehicle is untested above 50kph (but not necessarily unsafe).

Btw, whether you crash into a 10 feet thick reinforced concrete wall or crash to another vehicle travelling at the same speed the impact is the same - equal forces are in play. The only big difference is who has the higher bumper.

That's only true if you hit head on the same make, model and weight of car at similar velocity.

[yebo]

That's only true if you hit head on the same make, model and weight of car at similar velocity.

yes sir, but you only need same weight and speed- principle of action/reaction, every force is countered by an equal force in the opposite direction.Tinatamad ako mag-type so i left it to the reader to use his elementary physics. If this were an exam you'd get 100 points.

[dj ian]

Wala yan.. i bet yung mapupuntahan ni montero di mapupuntahan ni sorrento.. kahit pacomfy comfy panyan at saksakan ng sangkatutak na equipments.. yung review nya sa isang car magazine bagsak ang sorrento.. dun ko nabasa yung plastics nya, chinaplastic toys feel! And by the way, kung nagpapaka european si sorrento, bakit mo ibibida na comfy sya eh ang mga european cars matagtag yan. D sa napapako ako sa monty, pero iba pa rin ang japanesse cars. Saka d lang sa baha lumulusong si monty, sa ilog talaga. Unpaved ang loose gravel na 500mm ang tubig.. ganun ko inaabuso. O halika sorrento wanna join us?

[viper888]

Guys I think we need to chill with this topic
The Sorento and the Montero are two different ways of building an SUV
These two are apples to oranges
For comparison, nobody compares the BMW X5 to the Toyota LC200
If they are taxed equally they will cost about the same, are about the same length and width, and have the same number of seats if the option is ticked in the X5. Even power the two are similar, 300hp from their diesels, albeit produced in a different manner(4.5 V8 vs 3.0 I6).
But guess what, they cater to different markets, the BMW X5 is a brilliant tarmac SUV with carlike manners on the road and adequate offroad ability. The LC200, while no slouch on the road is inferior to the X5, but is far superior in terms of offroading, water fording, and etc. abilities

And to relate this to the topic:
BMW X5 = Kia Sorento
Soft roader with great tarmac abilities and superior refinement. Made for city slickers who rarely go offroad
Mitsubishi Montero = Toyota LC200
Truck based SUV with superior offroad abilities. Made for people who need the offroad abilities and the durability of a truck

[dj ian]

Di naman kasi bumibili ng kotse para ilusong lang sa baha. Comfort, space, fuel economy, maintenance cost, added features, engine power and torque if when you need it, drivability, SAFETY, etc. Kung baha lang nasa isip ko pag bibili ako ng sasakyan e sana DUMP TRUCK na 6x6 ang binili ko ano. At kung sasabihin mo na suv ang pinaguusapan at hindi truck, e naku may mas maganda kesa montero. Trailblazer and Everest dihamak mas maganda sa flood fording, and much better and safer suv all around than the asean-market only montero.

Sir i think you will not use your 6x6 for uphill to farm to city driving and vice versa. We have jeepneys converted to 4x4s and costumized 4x4 izusu elfs for deep flood fording pero di namin ganagamit papuntang metro. For us monty and fort are enough for our daily driving routes..

[yebo]

Sir i think you will not use your 6x6 for uphill to farm to city driving and vice versa. We have jeepneys converted to 4x4s and costumized 4x4 izusu elfs for deep flood fording pero di namin ganagamit papuntang metro. For us monty and fort are enough for our daily driving routes..

Yes, i will not buy a 6x6 but only because it will not fit in my garage. When the time comes that i will need a REAL 4X4 i will buy a REAL 4X4. an LC70 pick up, or even an old beat up LC80. Even a old F150 lariat fits the bill. Or a new chevy colorado 2.8 or ford ranger 3.2 wildtrak, lifted an additional 4 inches maybe. AND, you know, something with creep mode and solid axles.

But definitely not some wannabe 4x4 that turns turtle at the least excuse, like a monty.

[Djerms]

Dear TS: test drive test drive test drive....buy what you like. Dont listen to anyone here hehe maguguluhan ka lang.

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