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    #1
    mga GSR gurus, help naman po to make descision on what should i pick between this GSR models. GSR 2001-2003(black / yellow ) or a GSR 97-99 tapos may kasama na brand new na raider r 150 na suzuki???
    based on your experience...handling,maintanance and every factor will count...which is which? or any other suggestion?any other better car?

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    sa car syempre mas maganda na yung newer model kasi upgraded version na ito ng previous model year, pero kung may kasamang Raider yung lumang version ng GSR, tapos mint condition pa why not diba? teka same price lang ba ang dalawang choices mo?

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    I personally liked the older model than the INVECS series GSR. Mas madami ka pede gawin sa luma kung pimp din paguusapan. or kahit simple pretty naman GSR. Kung may Suzuki Raider, hmmmmm. Go for the old, basta good condition.

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    old model

    vs

    new model


    looks like this except that it has 4 wheel disc brakes, ABS, 4 speed manumatic INVECS-III transmission, power antenna (left rear side), 15' 5 spoke alloys, color coded stitchings on the leather covered door trims and leather seats and standard CD player.

    i like it better than the older 97 model and raider combo. you can get fairly decent 2ndhand raider if you like for not quite big sum of money... but if you risk in getting an older model and a lemon at that. paktay na! mas marami ang ime-maintain sa kotse. i suggest you get the newer unless the older is in better shape.

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    The ABS and 4-wheel discs are the nice part... but INVECS... ugh. The later GSR is a nice cruiser, mind you, but INVECS is a bit costly to maintain (3 ECUs instead of one...) and replace ($$$) if it breaks. Acceleration is brisk... for an automatic... but not really exciting.

    If the older model is MT and the engine sounds decent, go for it. Handling isn't any different between models, as far as I can tell, and isn't as good as the Lynx or the Civic VTi of the time. It's got a nice, supple suspension, though, and it's a good cruising car, if a little cramped in the back seat.

    Is the Raider absolutely new or being sold by the owner as well? Or are you contemplating buying the older model and using the change to get the Raider? If your heart is set on the GSR, I doubt you'll be disappointed with the older one versus the newer one, and having a motorcycle for coding days would be nice.

    Might make you feel bad, though, that the Raider is more exciting to drive than the GSR... ...that's a cracker of a bike, 11-12,000 rpm redline, 0-100 km/h in around 8 and a half seconds (have yet to test that... if anyone knows a way to stick a VBox to an underbone, I'm willing to try...), and a six-speed sequential... by the way, set aside money for a good helmet and some pads... you'll need it...

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    caveat: I like basti's idea about finding a secondhand Raider, too... while the older model doesn't have the electric starter, it's nearly the same in other respects, and quite a few people will be selling them with low mileage because they don't like kick-starting...

    Anyway, the decision should come down to the condition of the Lancer unit you're looking at... if it's great, get it... if it sounds like crap and feels like a tin can going down the street... meh..
    Last edited by niky; October 6th, 2007 at 01:18 PM.

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    GSR hirap nyan lalo pag magsasakay sa likod or sasakay sa likod.

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    Unless you need an a/t, go for the older (m/t only) gsr. Just be patient to look for a well-maintained unit. The transmission would be less costly and easy to maintain as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue View Post
    GSR hirap nyan lalo pag magsasakay sa likod or sasakay sa likod.

    Hey did you notice that the choices are both 2 door? Comments like this should have kept inside your mind(aboutblank).

    stick to the GSR 97-99 w/ raider r 150. 87-99 isnt that bad and a second hand raider would cost around 70-80k

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    benta mo yung raider para may pangmags at mod ka like engine or ice. just my two cents.

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    mas ok sana kung yung 97 na GSR... Honda CBR ang kasama hehehe...

    as opposed to Niky, i think the Lancers in general handles fairly well... better than Sentras and Corollas and about as agile and as willing as Civics. although it has slightly dead, numb steering. the chassis is really willing and really hugs the road. its multi-links at the back also provides good ride too.

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    Hehe... guess it depends on perspective. I will agree that it is better than the Corolla of the time, and possibly the fully loaded Sentra Exalta SLA or STA... I still feel the Civic is somewhat superior... but since I haven't driven either the 96-00 VTi or the GSR for quite a while, I can't say for sure.

    The GSR's road manners are very good, though... I feel it strikes the proper balance between ride comfort and agility. ;)

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    i think handling-wise, it's just about neck to neck with the Civic. it only losses points when it comes to body rigidity. that's why it (the civic) feels more solid. Lancers are more makalampag than the Civics of same era. but handling and ride, just about as good IMO.
    Last edited by basti08; October 9th, 2007 at 08:02 PM.

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    I like the newer GSR body although I'm not too fond of second vehicles equipped with A/T (IMO - buying it is a bit risky moreso that this is not your regular A/T unit).

    Though if you are looking for other choices, look for a Ford Lynx instead.

    Also, not a really a fan of underbones.

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    thanks po sa lahat ng response nyo... Now its getting clear. Ok din yung suggestion ni sir mazdamazda na ford lynx. Isa din yun sa mga type kong tsikot. ahm,add ko lang po. How about civic hatch EG with a brand new CBR 150 repsol? will that be a good choice between the above choices?

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    Sir still up to you kng anu feel mo..

    IMHO
    Take the older gsr...why..madami na magpost kng bakit...
    sweet deal na yung raider 150 cc engine..
    the bike itself is a sweet deal...
    just invest on your gears wag magtipid!!!!!!!

    and 2 rides for the price of one..,.still sounds nice

    check mo n lng kung okmtlga ung makina at ala ka papalitan..
    kumbaga sasakyan n lng.....

    and xmpre mas maganda my auto at tormuts....
    raider is one of ther best underbones aroyund....
    like sugessted mas mgnda cbr padin hahaha

    and mas tipid sa gas tormuts..wahahah

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    While the EG hatch was a nice car during its time, consider that its time was over ten years ago. That generation of Civic was notorious for rust, so double check any secondhand unit you look at.

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    Hi, my Wife has a 97 GSR which I occasionally use.
    100k on the Odo Manual.

    Easy to Maintain and Easy to find Parts, Though My Mecahic says (A Retired Chief Mechanic from Citimotors) 97 GSR have a different Clutch Master, 2 Mechanic na nagsabi sa akin na mahirap i bleed etc. Proven ko na iyon dahil dati buong araw siya nagble bleed. Pero LAte 98 pataas daw iba na.

    I dont like the INVECS. Looks like a sure headache when it becomes old.
    But I like its styling though.



    On the side
    I use to own an SiR and the GSR handles better for me.
    I think the GSR is a well Balance Car when it comes to Handling.


    For me Ditch the motorcycle pang paayos ng sasakyan like Timing belt Brake pads, etc.
    Last edited by MAXBUWAYA; October 27th, 2007 at 04:13 PM.

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    may gsr din ako nuon. 98 model. gustong-gusto ko sya as in. itong june ko lang yata nabenta yun. mas type ko din ang m/t lang kesa sa invecs. walang problema sa budget kung magpapa repair ka trany. kahit sa tabi-tabing shop kaya nila ayusin. unlike sa invecs i ca-casa pa. saka mas matipid pa sa gas kumpara sa invecs. hindi lang talaga sya tulad ng tipid ng vtec honda.

    kung gusto mo naman mag mukhang modelo ng konti gsr mo. palitan mo lang trunk and tail lights na pang mirage ok na.

    tama si sir m2. sana mapansin mo din yung ford lynx. mas may class ang dating kumpara sa mga ordinary japs car.kung wala ka naman plano ibenta sya in the near future. walang problema sa resale value. for sure ma enjoy mo sya. class din ng interior. lalo ghia.

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    Thanks po ulet sa mga nagreresponse. i really appreciate your opinions and suggestions. ahm sir LexTer. Matanong ko lang po. hindi po ba magastos ang maintainance ng ford lynx? Parts and service? kasi di po ba american manufactured car yun? Madali ba yun ipaayos at palitan ang parts if ever may masira?

help po!!! GSR 97-99 w/ raider r 150 or 2001-2003 GSR mdl?