2005 -Isuzu XUVi Crosswind or Hyundai Starex

[yakuini]

Hi! Glad I bumped to this thread kasi hanap ako discussion about starex vs. crosswind e. But I am looking for a 2nd hand starex vs. crosswind. maybe 2000-2001 model.

Ask ko lang po kung yung makina ng Starex 2000 ay CRDi na? and how is the fuel consumption ba ng Starex? So far maganda po feedback sa Starex dito kaya lang may mga ngacomment din po (hindi po dito sa tsikot) na sa long driving pangit po ang Starex, totoo po ba ito? Like going to Bagiuo kelangan daw po ipahinga at baka tumirik? Please comment and I'm glad to join Tsikot! Newbie lang.

02 Starex owner here. Acquired it 5 months ago. HIndi pa po CRDi ang 2004 and below na starex, kung meron man, black market po sila. Nagsimula ang CRDi Starex ng ilabas nila ang 2005 model, yung me bagong nose job, allan K nose job...

Km/L is 8 sa city and 10 to 11 naman sa highway.

Long driving? Starex is known to be the van that never overheats, palitan mo lang yung plastic water reservoir ng radiator pag brownish color na, it tends to get brittle over time (2 years?) Tested na ang starex sa akin, mine already went to baguio, mt. samat and recently lang - puerto del sol, bolinao. I drive from Pampanga to Bolinao without any stopover...nag CR lang once ng nasa Pangasinan na kami so imagine the stress it took. Temp reading is always at 8 o'clock.

Aircon pala is nissan like

[seung]

Bakit ang mahal ata ng Starex ngayon? Ang quote samin 1.4 M+...

[robert]

Hi Sir,

Ok,

For horsepower rating. TCI (100 horsepower) CRDi (145 Horsepower)w regard to
nominal that i have to check.
For clearance, i am pretty sure that will not be a problem. Because i have
passed all the bumpy roads (like Isabela, Baguio, Ilocos )

For airbag, driver side only ( satndard).
Only CRDi has ABS.
yeah with TV Monitor and DVD player..

Options : Carrier and ladder ( 24,000.00 genuine, 18,000 replacement)

Regards,
Marco



>From: "Phillip Garin" <Phillip.Garin*dolphinenergy.com>
>To: "Marco Hizon" <carcity777*hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Please advise - Starex 2005 as i intend to purchase 1
>family
>van
>Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 10:30:21 +0400
>
>Hi Marco,
>
>Thanks for your prompt reply.
>
>Please advise on the following:
>
>a). Horsepower and Torque of CRDI and TCI Starex.
>b). Vertical Clearance from lowest part of underchassis and tire - note
>that going to my residence is part cemented road and bumpy road. c).
>Fuel consumption indicated by you is it for CRDI (peak rating 145,
>nominal rating unknown) or TCI (100hp - nominal rating??)? I believed
>that CRDI and TCI are having different Horsepower rating. d). Starex
>provided with 2 air bags (front seat driver & passenger seat)? If not
>indicate additional cost? e). TCI with ABS?
>f). interior view of gold, grx tci & grx crdi.
>g). what are the furnishing & accessories provided for item f above. How
>about entertainment - brand & model dvd player, quantity and wattage of
>speakers?
>h). Starex provided with as a standard or as an optional items the
>following:
>h-1). Spare tire carrier at back door (if optional please indicate cost
>adder).
>h-2) Roof Rack and 5th door ladder ( refer to attached side view picture
>of starex).
>
>
>Hoping to hear from you soon.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Phillip Robert Garin
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Marco Hizon [mailto:carcity777*hotmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:51 PM
>To: Phillip Garin
>Subject: RE: Please advise - Starex 2005 as i intend to purchase 1
>family van
>
>Dear Mr. Garin,
>
>First of all, i would like to take this opportunity to thank you for
>considering our dealership.
>
>Ok, let me introduce my self, I am Mr. Marco Hizon VP for Sales &
>Marketing.
>
>With regard to your question, we have three a lot of models of starex.
>Hereunder, are the following models.
>
>1. 10 seater GRX Turbo Charged Intercooler Automatic Transmission ( P
>1,086,000.00)
>2. 10 seater GRX Common Rail Direct Injection Automatic Transmission (
>1,191,000.00)
>3. 10 seater GRX Common Rail Direct Injection Automatic Transmission w/
>ABS ( 1,220,000.00)
>4. 10 seater GRX Common Rail Direct Injection Manual Transmission (
>1,139,000.00)
>5. 8 seater Gold Common Rail Direct Injection Automatic Transmission (
>1,
>434,000.00)
>6. Jumbo is subject for availability
>
>Warranty is Three (3) years or 100,000 kms. whichever comes first
>
>All prices are Suggested retail price.
>
>Consumption for Manual is 12 to 14 kms. per liter highway; 9 to 12 for
>City Driving
>Consumption for Automatic is 9 to 10 kms. per liter highway: 8 to 10 kms
>per
>liter City driving
>
>Regarding the features, ill get back to you by tomorrow.
>
>Regards,
>
>Marco
>
>
>
> >From: "Phillip Garin" <Phillip.Garin*dolphinenergy.com>
> >To: <carcity777*hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Please advise - Starex 2005 as i intend to purchase 1 family
>van
> >Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:45:16 +0400
> >
> >Hyundai Pampanga
> >San Fernando-Olongapo Gapan Road
> >San Fernando, Pampanga
> >
> >Dear Sir/Madam,
> >
> >Please advise regarding following as I intend to purchase 1 family
> >van this Sept. 2005.
> >
> >a) Starex Estimated Fuel Consumption (City/Highway Driving) for
>both
> >manual and automatic transmission.
> >b) Material (plastic"Teflon" or copper) - male tubing connecting
> >between aftercooler and radiator of Starex.
> >c) Warranty.
> >d) Brochure soft copy or electronic copy to guide me in selecting
> >whether SVX/Jumbo MT, SVX AT, Club AT, Jumbo AT, could you send also
> >features, interior and exterior view of each.
> >
> >
> >Hoping to hear from you soon and thank you for your time and kind
> >consideration.
> >
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Phillip Robert S. Garin
> >Lead Project Mechanical Engineer
> >Dolphin Energy Limited
> >TRF Project, Technip Office, 17th Floor
> >National Bank of Abu Dhabi
> >Khalifa Street
> >P.O. Box 7657
> >Abu Dhabi, U.A.E.
> >Tel : 00971 2 6116320 (DIRECT LINE)
> >Fax: 00971 2 6272536
> >Mobile: 00971 50 3270822
> >E-mail: phillip.garin*dolphinenergy.com
> >Website: http://www.dolphinenergy.com <http://www.dolphinenergy.com/>
> >
> >
>
>
>

[Hero]

buti sila sumasagot...i tried dati to email various car dealers..parang peke ata mga email address ehehehe walang mga sagot eh..

[kokey]

Try HYUNDAI MAKATI, ganda service dun.

[windstruck]

I suggest XUVI.When it comes to durability, economically and dependability you should
go for XUVi.It also has a better fuel consumption.If your really looking for a diesel you
should go for Isuzu XUVi. Isuzu is really known for being the best when it comes to diesel engine.If you want sir a complete specs i could send you thru e-mail just send me your e-mail add.

[kokey]

We had a Crosswind XUV, and sell it already.

Matipid kung sa matipid.

Putol pipe ng tambutso (common problem ng crosswind up to now)

Sobra ingay (want to experience driving an elf, GO BUY THE CROSSWIND)

Leaf spring issue (natatabingi, AGAIN common sa crosswind up to now)

Mausok kahit naka idle

matagtag FLEX RIDE matagtag pa rin

BUY A CROSSWIND AND DRIVE LIKE A TRUCK

BUILT (LIKE A SARAO JEEP/// now that's durable isuzu for you)

[OTEP]

Sa Isuzu Crosswind kasi parang makina lang ang alam nilang buoin. Its as if they forgot that the rest of the vehicle needs to be good as well (alam naman ng mga Tsikot Crosswind owners ito).

I almost recommended one to a friend. When I checked one out:
*Rear side doors open very narrowly
*They can't even get the badges straight
*Crude way of folding the rear seat. Makes funny noises while driving, too.
*The numerous self-disassembling tailpipe and misaligned frame stories here at Tsikot
*The ride, even with flexride
*Lots of cheap touches inside and out

I'd rather live with the 'lousy engined' Starex. More people friendly, more comfy. Has nice little touches you can appreciate when you spend a significant amount of time on the road.

[baurtwellXUV]

....... no comment... i own one kasi..pero satisfied..

[slipstreamer]

been an owner of starex since 2001 upto now, bought it 2nd hand 1998 model. Also have a good friend who owns Xwind xuvI. Ill follow Robert's chronology of categories.
1. durability i believe is a toss up given the inherent strnegth of diesel engine. Mechanically Starex has weakness (mine is bushings, xmission support and electrical) but mind you parts are very cheap.
2. Space? Clear winner is starex by a mile!!
3. int/ext looks? Xwind slightly ahead in ext look due to its SUV style + badly redesigned nose of starex. Interior though Starex is clear winner.
4. Resale value? both are good but Starex just recently held its value due to 2004 JD Powers report citing Hyundai as #2 in quality in US market. Bought my 1998 starex php500k in 2001, i can sell it easily now at php350-380k. 3 year old starex average depreciation just 30% at most. Same or better for Xwind.
5. Fuel consumption - Crosswind clear winner due to low pressure turbo diesel vs. high pressure for Starex. Better Crosswind mileage with normally aspirated diesel engine.
6. spare part/maintenance cost - Clear winner is starex, parts in Banawe are 50% cheaper than dealer price and easy to locate, they're everywhere. Isuzu's is pricier and more difficult to find. Tip for you....have dealer do a 30 pt. check for every 10,000km and if they find a trouble, take it elsewhere...buy it and have it repaired in Banawe.

Hope this helps.......

[Bry]

Among your choices, sa Starex na ako. A good van is always classier than a good AUV. AUVs kasi give this notion na 'pang-harabas'.

Suggestion lang, take a look at the Innova. Or the Hi Ace.

[Psalm136:2]

I second the motion kay Sir Baurt.

[eggman]

i think yung Starex GRX CRdi ay bago na yung grille(ala-Audi single frame grille),ABS with 4 wheel disc brakes at bagong GRX stickers,nasa 1.220.000 pesos yung A/T variant.

[fakesaint]

nkabili ka na ba???

starex

dapat!

[cardo]

sa kin naman, I'd rather have a reliable car(or engine) than creature comforts. I've had 3 or 4 engine breakdown experience and its really hard to recover esp if you are in a remote area. I've had breakdowns going up to baguio and tagaytay, in the middle of NLEX (which is like nowhere ) its really hard to get help. very costly too, and the trauma! Ngayon lagi kong tinitignan yun temp guage hehehe

back to the subject, ganda ng current starex! so so roomy inside. and plush interior esp. the gold crdi variant. the faux wood is not to my liking. I've got to ride shotgun on my friend's white crdi gold. nice suspension. interior is very very roomy and the beige color scheme is executed well. CRDi engine gives out ample pulling power and we were fully loaded(we on our way to a lunch out ). auto climate control na rin sya which is nice. When it first came out, I thought it was from the movie I, Robot - pertaining to the facelift it has But price is somewhat steep at 1.4M hmmm... I think the starex has been out since 97 or 98? Although old, but hyundai has done a lot of tweaks to the present model(I pressume) and its a nice package overall.

[slx]

have a 2001 starex a/t club edition. i really like the looks, riding comfort, very roomy and engine performance is adequate. the interior is like the new gold series. whether you get the grx or gold series am sure you wont regret it. this had been with me for almost four years now and have no plans of replacing it. i really fell in love with this van.

[oldblue]

Black Starex

[ravelcop]

Consumption for Manual is 12 to 14 kms. per liter highway; 9 to 12 for

is this true? how about for earlier models like 2000 below? coz i have an officemate who's complaining about his Starex, 6-7 km/L city drive

[IMm29]

Starex. Especially if it's the new CRDi model.

Consumption on our non-Turbo '98 model was about 8-9 kms/l

[ultraman]

which would be better starex crd or innova crd both manual? which is more comfortable to ride? 145hp vs 105hp.