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    #1
    Hi Just wanted to get your opinion. Am just looking for a cheap luxury cruiser. Am not into drifting so when i get it, i will keep it stock. I just need it to service my clients so it has to be very presentable and reliable. I just want something that rides really well, with good a/c, ample spare parts (surplus and brand new), super comfy seats, good over all value and preferably the one with a classier and timeless look. Which of these cars have a better business image? Resale is a plus but not really that important. Is the fuel consumption the same? Both are manual trannys. Please advise. Hope to hear from you. Thanks.

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    If its gonna be used to ferry your clients, I'd say that the Crown is more presentable than the Cefiro, it looks classier.

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    hmmm. ako naman napapatingin if i see those old model cefiros around... maangas ang dating eh...

    tama sila, kung presentable ang hanap mo dun ka na sa Corona... Or, if you can afford it, you can get the second generation cefiro which looks good.

    yung 1st Gen cefiro kasi is maangas ang dating eh...

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    I`d say the crown because the 1st gen cefiro is more likely a drift car not an " executive car " . Well likewhat 1d4lv said, if you can afford the 2nd gen cefiro then why not? That one has the executive look

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    if i may ask, what is your budget? the reason why i asked is that there could be more options like:

    a. honda accord
    b. galant shark.
    c. opel vectra station wagon. (paktay ka nga lang sa parts neto...)

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    #6
    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post

    tama sila, kung presentable ang hanap mo dun ka na sa Corona...
    I think what the TS meant is Toyota Crown , not a Corona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronw123w124 View Post
    I think what the TS meant is Toyota Crown , not a Corona.
    is there difference between crown and corona? kasi yung samen is toyota crown 2.0 pero yung nakalagay sa rehistro is toyota corona? should i worry? hehe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj.campo View Post
    is there difference between crown and corona? kasi yung samen is toyota crown 2.0 pero yung nakalagay sa rehistro is toyota corona? should i worry? hehe..
    Yup sir may mali po diyan :hihihi:

    eto po ang 1992 Corona:



    Samantalang eto naman po ang 1992 crown:






    See the differences? hehehe.

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    malaki nga.. baket ganun? ganun na yun sa rehistro namen ever since e.. additional charge na naman pag pinabago ko to.. takteng LTO yan o!

    sorry TS sa OT.. at least naliwanagan ako.. thanks mga sirs..

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    problem sa crown is parts! pero no comment ako, maganda corona, lalo na kung royal saloon 24valve 3.0! dual aircon kasi.

    cefiro a31 ako..pwedeng drift machine, pwedeng highway cruiser...inline 6 2.4L carb nga lang..pero RWD!

    halos hawig sa mga skyline r32....

    kung gusto mo, a32 cefiro or newer 1994-98 corona.

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    yep, agree ako sayo sir.. mas ok yung '94-'98..

    yung '96 2.0 royal saloon ni ermat dual aircon na rin.. kaso malakas pa din sa gas.. hekhek..

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    Mas malaki ang Crown sa Corona. Crown is a full size sedan while Corona is just slightly bigger than a Corolla with a 2.0L engine.

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    Thanks for the replies. Actually am thinking about these two models specifically because they are both rear wheel drive and i plan to do an engine swap.

    The newer cefiro is nice. I am looking at the elite or brougham as well pero mukhang malabo kasi mag engine swap dun sa a32 but that was really my first choice and still is. This a31 and crown will be a second car if i get an a32 or I may just retain my 4x4 plus an a31 or crown. Mejo nagsasawa nako sa 4x4 at yung mga client ko na matatanda nahirapan sumakay at bumaba kasi mataas - pero matipid kasi sa crudo at mahusay tumawid ng baha eh so mejo torn ako kung pati 4x4 ko palitan ko. What do you think?

    Yung accord and galant shark malabo din engine swap kasi front wheel drive and parang common na look ng mga ito - i had a galant shark a/t by the way - lakas sa gas grabe. Between accord, galant and a32, i prefer the a32 brougham or elite.

    I need it to service clients so i need to swap a thriftier engine na pang harabas - literally pang haharabas ko lang - mga 1,500 - 2,000 km / month. I found engines that could fit them both with no problem. Bawi ko swapping cost in 6-8 months. Sobra ako lugi kung stock engines parang P12K - P16k/ month sa gas pa lang para ako bumili ng condo. I used to have a benz before P15k-P18k naman fuel nun per month grabe talaga yun lugi ka talaga at parati kang kinakabahan sa over heat pag traffic.

    Sa parts alin ba mas madami? Yung crown ba may rear aircon and drink chiller na din?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanrider88 View Post
    Thanks for the replies. Actually am thinking about these two models specifically because they are both rear wheel drive and i plan to do an engine swap.

    The newer cefiro is nice. I am looking at the elite or brougham as well pero mukhang malabo kasi mag engine swap dun sa a32 but that was really my first choice and still is. This a31 and crown will be a second car if i get an a32 or I may just retain my 4x4 plus an a31 or crown. Mejo nagsasawa nako sa 4x4 at yung mga client ko na matatanda nahirapan sumakay at bumaba kasi mataas - pero matipid kasi sa crudo at mahusay tumawid ng baha eh so mejo torn ako kung pati 4x4 ko palitan ko. What do you think?

    Yung accord and galant shark malabo din engine swap kasi front wheel drive and parang common na look ng mga ito - i had a galant shark a/t by the way - lakas sa gas grabe. Between accord, galant and a32, i prefer the a32 brougham or elite.

    I need it to service clients so i need to swap a thriftier engine na pang harabas - literally pang haharabas ko lang - mga 1,500 - 2,000 km / month. I found engines that could fit them both with no problem. Bawi ko swapping cost in 6-8 months. Sobra ako lugi kung stock engines parang P12K - P16k/ month sa gas pa lang para ako bumili ng condo. I used to have a benz before P15k-P18k naman fuel nun per month grabe talaga yun lugi ka talaga at parati kang kinakabahan sa over heat pag traffic.

    Sa parts alin ba mas madami? Yung crown ba may rear aircon and drink chiller na din?
    Get the crown and restore it or buy a newer cefiro.

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    I test drove a manual crown today. Lambot ng ride parang barko. Yung mga upuan parang sofa. May rear A/C and drink cooler. Di masyado sariwa yung interior na nakita ko at namamatay matay yung makina. Mukha din old style yung interior. Test drove an a32 brougham as well today - lupet ng ride - parang benz - ibang klase din interior. Test drive ako a31 this week para ma compare ko.

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    a31 ka na.. dami ka pang options for swap:

    sr20det, rb26det, dett, rb25det.....

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    madaming cheap cefiros floating around sa buy and sell yards... yung mga 96-97 models a32(?) are going for as low as 180 pa nga eh. i would get this over the older a31 cefiro. medyo malaking gastos bago maging reliable ulit yung mga a31 ngayon... and i'm sure ayaw mo matirikan ng makina habang sakay mga cliente mo.

    the crown is nice, but the maintenance costs will kill you. that said, the cefiros will also dent your wallet, but you got better chances of finding brand new spare parts. plus, they got EFi and more modern engines.

    sarap ng problema mo dude. if i had the spare cash lying around i would get a cefiro and use it as a comfy long dist cruiser. khit malakas ng konti sa gs, hindi pa rin mabibili ng pera yung comfort at smile sa mukha mo pag sumibak ka ng mga civic sa NLEX (for the v6 cefiros ha... sa 2.0 4 inline models medyo mahirapan ka, but anything's possible...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanrider88 View Post
    I test drove a manual crown today. Lambot ng ride parang barko. Yung mga upuan parang sofa. May rear A/C and drink cooler. Di masyado sariwa yung interior na nakita ko at namamatay matay yung makina. Mukha din old style yung interior. Test drove an a32 brougham as well today - lupet ng ride - parang benz - ibang klase din interior. Test drive ako a31 this week para ma compare ko.
    sir meron ako crown sariwa in and out as in sariwa talaga all leather ang loob

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanrider88 View Post
    I test drove a manual crown today. Lambot ng ride parang barko. Yung mga upuan parang sofa. May rear A/C and drink cooler. Di masyado sariwa yung interior na nakita ko at namamatay matay yung makina. Mukha din old style yung interior. Test drove an a32 brougham as well today - lupet ng ride - parang benz - ibang klase din interior. Test drive ako a31 this week para ma compare ko.
    sir meron ako crown sariwa in and out

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    If its for ferrying people i'd get the Crown over the A31 but if you throw in the A32, then i'll definitely get that. Engine swap? Just look for a VQ25 engine in the surplus shops.

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