Lancer Cedia GLX or Vios 1.3J

[after11years]

Yes I'm back and thanks to Ondoy hindi natuloy ang aming purchase last year. Ipinagpaliban na muna and ngayong June malamang sa malamang bibili na kami. Dapat after12years na username ko. =)).

Anyway, it's down to the two. Features-wise, medyo pareho sila kasi power stuff na rin yung sa Vios 1.3J. FC-wise, definitely sa Vios. Now I just don't know kung worth it yung 39k price difference. Pasok pa rin naman yung Lancer sa budget na 650k after factoring in the discounts na inooffer ng dealer (10 months na hindi pa rin nagbabago hahaha).

I would really appreciate your inputs and I'd like to thank you in advance. This will most definitely help my parents. Again, thanks! :D

[ronw123w124]

Are you sure na all-powered na yung Vios J? Ang alam ko power steering lang ang Vios J. Baka you're referring to the Vios E.

[after11years]

Are you sure na all-powered na yung Vios J? Ang alam ko power steering lang ang Vios J. Baka you're referring to the Vios E.

The updated Vios 1.3J is all power na, except for the mirrors. I myself am surprised upon knowing this, but yes, this seems to be the case.

[ronw123w124]

Between the Vios and the Lancer, sa Vios pa rin ako, too many bad experiences in the past with Mitsubishis.

[homer jay]

Now I just don't know kung worth it yung 39k price difference.

Depende sayo yan sir kung ano mas importante sayo, features-wise syempre mas lamang talaga ang Lancer. Bigger engine, dual disc brakes, dual airbags, keyless entry and alarm, 195/15 wheels. Pero sobrang magastos alam ko sa FC itong Lancer na ito. And I know the build quality / feel and ride isn't too good. Yun ang complaint ng isang kakilala ko sa kanyang A/T Lancer Cedia GLS (and also from what I have read in the internet).

Sa Vios naman, medyo kulang ang features, but if you're a practical person, very liveable yung mga kulang nya. Disc/drum setup is not too bad naman. The bigger wheels means a more expensive maintenance when its time for you to replace them. You can always use your key to open the car... tsaka mabilis at di naman ganon kamahal magpakabit ng alarm. The main advantage is sobrang tipid ng sa gas. I'm doing no less than 12.5km/l in 100% city driving now on a Gen 1 1.3 (pero mga 10.5km/l lang sya nung bago sya). Yung kakilala ko, she's doing only 6-7 km/l on an A/T CVT Lancer Cedia (maybe a +1km/l advantage to the manual). Lower maintenance and operating costs in the long run. Ride quality-wise, I don't have complaints naman on my Gen 1 except for its seats which I find a little uncomfortable when driving long distances.

If it were me, Vios J ako. That's just because I'm more on the practical side and I won't care if my car is being used as taxis here. Marami kasing ayaw kumuha ng Vios J simply for that reason only.

[yapoy86]

mas malaki at mabigat ang body ng lancer tapos bigger engine pa so expect FC will be higher compared to vios.. pero sa tingin ko mas spacious ang lancer compared sa vios at isa pa hindi ko trip yung center mounted instrument panel nakakairita kasi mapaptingin ka sa harap looking for the instrument panel at magtataka bakit nawala... tapos maaalala mo vios nga pala yung car mo sabay tingin sa gitna..

[renzo_d10]

Vios ako. Mas fresh looks compared sa Cedia. Palit rims, foglights at keyless entry magpalagay ka tapos the rest is stock maganda na yan

[after11years]

Between the Vios and the Lancer, sa Vios pa rin ako, too many bad experiences in the past with Mitsubishis.

Please feel free to narrate. Thanks! :D

[after11years]

Depende sayo yan sir kung ano mas importante sayo, features-wise syempre mas lamang talaga ang Lancer. Bigger engine, dual disc brakes, dual airbags, keyless entry and alarm, 195/15 wheels. Pero sobrang magastos alam ko sa FC itong Lancer na ito. And I know the build quality / feel and ride isn't too good. Yun ang complaint ng isang kakilala ko sa kanyang A/T Lancer Cedia GLS (and also from what I have read in the internet).

Sa Vios naman, medyo kulang ang features, but if you're a practical person, very liveable yung mga kulang nya. Disc/drum setup is not too bad naman. The bigger wheels means a more expensive maintenance when its time for you to replace them. You can always use your key to open the car... tsaka mabilis at di naman ganon kamahal magpakabit ng alarm. The main advantage is sobrang tipid ng sa gas. I'm doing no less than 12.5km/l in 100% city driving now on a Gen 1 1.3 (pero mga 10.5km/l lang sya nung bago sya). Yung kakilala ko, she's doing only 6-7 km/l on an A/T CVT Lancer Cedia (maybe a +1km/l advantage to the manual). Lower maintenance and operating costs in the long run. Ride quality-wise, I don't have complaints naman on my Gen 1 except for its seats which I find a little uncomfortable when driving long distances.

If it were me, Vios J ako. That's just because I'm more on the practical side and I won't care if my car is being used as taxis here. Marami kasing ayaw kumuha ng Vios J simply for that reason only.

Thanks for the really comprehensive explanation! It really helped. Medyo katakotakot yung FC ng Lancer so I'm kinda more inclined to the Vios nowadays. We don't really care if it's a taxi car or something, in fact it's some sort of bonus kasi at least tried and tested ang reliability niya.

Anyway, another concern is that baka hindi kaya ng Vios yung mga medyo matitinding paakyat, and long drives. Although it will be primarily used for city driving, ito na rin ang gagamitin namin for rare weekend outings to places like Pansol and all that. I guess kaya pa naman. Pero baka iuwi rin kasi namin to Bicol yung sasakyan. Kaya kaya ng Vios yung ganun katinding biyahe? Kahit sino po pwede sumagot. Thanks!

[after11years]

mas malaki at mabigat ang body ng lancer tapos bigger engine pa so expect FC will be higher compared to vios.. pero sa tingin ko mas spacious ang lancer compared sa vios at isa pa hindi ko trip yung center mounted instrument panel nakakairita kasi mapaptingin ka sa harap looking for the instrument panel at magtataka bakit nawala... tapos maaalala mo vios nga pala yung car mo sabay tingin sa gitna..

I guess magiging problema iyan ng dad ko having been used to our Civic for the past 12 years. For me, on the other hand, medyo malabo namang madisorient pa ako, I've never driven the Civic pa kasi eh. Anyway, thanks for the insight!

[after11years]

Vios ako. Mas fresh looks compared sa Cedia. Palit rims, foglights at keyless entry magpalagay ka tapos the rest is stock maganda na yan

I wonder how much would the rims, foglights and TVSS would cost. Sa car plan kasi ng mom ko kailangan lahat from the casa eh. Thanks!

[after11years]

Sorry, doublepost.

[basti08]

Vios. Just prepared to be underwhelmed with the lack of features. but a reliable and efficient point a to point b car.

[renzo_d10]

I wonder how much would the rims, foglights and TVSS would cost. Sa car plan kasi ng mom ko kailangan lahat from the casa eh. Thanks!

Rims could be bought outside. Design would be depending on your preference. If you want to have it cheap, then buy 2nd hand rims then brand new tires ... just make sure that the rims has no or less scratches. Tires would be again depending on you.

OEM Foglights would set you back at 6,500php including install and the switch.

TVSS on the other hand would again cost you another 5,500.

Prices are inquired * Toyota Quezon Avenue.

[homer jay]

mas malaki at mabigat ang body ng lancer tapos bigger engine pa so expect FC will be higher compared to vios.. pero sa tingin ko mas spacious ang lancer compared sa vios at isa pa hindi ko trip yung center mounted instrument panel nakakairita kasi mapaptingin ka sa harap looking for the instrument panel at magtataka bakit nawala... tapos maaalala mo vios nga pala yung car mo sabay tingin sa gitna..

Space-wise, I really don't think Lancer Cedia is bigger than the Vios. Yes, length is longer by some 200+mm but the design of the lancer is not space eficient (long engine bay, etc). Width, they are the same (specs-wise, Vios is even wider by 5mm), and you even have a higher roofline for the Vios. I would say, they're even in terms of interior spacing.

Re the instrument panel, pag matagal ka nang driver, it takes you less than a month naman to really "get used" to this. I was able to drive a small-body corolla, an itlog lancer, and the same civic model as your dad has before I had my Vios. Naka-adjust naman ako in a short time, and hindi naman ako nahihirapan sa orientation when I borrow the cars of my siblings now, which have the normal instrument panel orientation. No big issue yan. Pangit lang nga yung center mounted design in my opinion but reading it is no problem.

[homer jay]

Anyway, another concern is that baka hindi kaya ng Vios yung mga medyo matitinding paakyat, and long drives. Although it will be primarily used for city driving, ito na rin ang gagamitin namin for rare weekend outings to places like Pansol and all that. I guess kaya pa naman. Pero baka iuwi rin kasi namin to Bicol yung sasakyan. Kaya kaya ng Vios yung ganun katinding biyahe? Kahit sino po pwede sumagot. Thanks!

Haven't driven as far as Bicol yet, but I had my gen 1 vios tested at steeply inclined, but paved roads, kayang-kaya naman sya. Mahina lang sya sa akyatan pero kaya naman. And kaya rin naman sya sa rough but flat roads, pero parang nakakaawa lang sya kasi when alam mong hindi sya built for it. Haven't tested it in rough, inclined roads. Plus if ginagawa syang taxi, then it can go for at least 12 hours straight without problem, tried and tested na yan.

Sa accessories that you mentioned, tingin ko di na practical to change rims and install foglamps pa (unless na ibabiyahe mo nga lang sya madalas to high, foggy places). Kung para sa porma lang, then why get a Vios J in the first place?

Tingin ko okay naman yung TVSS ng Toyota. For me, the speed sensing door locks feature is a very useful function. Sometimes, you forget to lock the car when you drive, safer sa bukas-kotse gangs, and safer din if you have small kids riding the car.

[tidus1203]

Actually weird ako in saying I like the center dash of the Yaris (pareho sila ng Vios center dash). I love the glove box of the Yaris up front cause I can store my cellphone and whatnot in there (and you can't have that if your gauges are standard). Meron ba ganun yung Vios?

[mda]

Alanganin nga yung choices.

If for city driving only, the Vios J would do. Not a fan of the No Alarm/No ABS+EBD/Hubcaps pero it fits the bill.

At 865k kasi, the City A comes into the picture. More or less even with the Vios E except for the hubcaps and 2 speaker setup. Walang keyless entry but merong immobilizer.

Hindi pa rin ba ma stretch yung budget? Hehe. Ang tagal na ring naka hold 'tong kotse nyo. =)

[after11years]

*basti08 actually it's okay na. Gusto lang sana namin na madagdagan ng features kasi gusto ng mom ko imaximize yung car loan.

*renzo_d10 Wala bang rims na nabibili sa casa?

*homer_jay Actually parang mas maluwag pa nga yata yung Vios eh. I've ridden a friend's Lancer GLX (na 2007 nya binili) and comparing it with the Vios cabs, mas gusto ko pa rin yung Vios. :P And yes siguro nga kaya naman ang Bicol )

*tidus1203 Wala yatang ganyan yung Vios pero okay lang, we don't really use those glove compartments except for safekeeping important docs.

*mda Ayaw nina Mommy eh. Kaya sana but she wants to restrict herself to the last centavo of the car loan. Nagrerefurnish rin kasi kami ng bahay ngayon eh. )

[mda]

Vios it is then.

Mukhang no alternative kayo =p