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  1. Join Date
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    all stock yung SIR. Below 30thou kms.

    Sino mas ok?

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    Depends on how you want to match the two. Kung sa speed I think SIR will still win. But if you're going to use it as a daily driver, mas okay na siguro ang new civic. Mas bago eh....mas pleasing para sa driver.

    2 sentimosmos.

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    I vote for the SiR if it really is that fresh. You'll save maybe 600k vs a 2.0li version of the new car, and that's enough to get you another u-car or a new subcompact for a daily drive (keeping the SiR nice and fresh for your weekends).

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    I would get the Civic 2.0L ... for both reasons of performance and ease of driving.

    The Civic SiR is a nice toy for the weekends but overall, there is no replacement for displacement.

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    I never liked the newer Civics later than the SiR, that's my answer

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    SIR... because im cheap

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    Virgin CivicSIR for performance. 8th Gen Civic for efficiency.

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    I'd go with the SIR, you can have fun both ways, pwede rin namang daily driver mo at weekend hataw fest. And as far as i could remember parang walang blind spots ang sir compared to the 8th gen civic. Malaki kasi ang A-pillar ng 8th gen civic plus pag nilagyan mo pa ng rain visor mahirap lalo na in siksikan situations.

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    Take a mechanic along to verify that the engine is untouched and in good condition. It just takes a cold start-up and a couple of spins around the block to assess the engine's condition.

    If it's true that the owner merely used it in that way, I'd be willing to pay an extra 20-40k pesos for it.

    The new 1.8 Civic has a better torque band, and it's a great commuter car, but the price difference is impossible to ignore.

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    And yah, the extremely slanted windshield makes merging onto main roads a pain... and the rear windshield is also kind of small. The upright greenhouse of the SiR makes it a doodle to drive.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    nice to have both though pero mas pabor ako sa brand new if you have to choose one, magagamit mo pa ten years from now. but if this virgin SiR will be your second car that you can refit and modified it will be great!

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    the SIR is what? 9-10 yrs old car? there is no such thing as a "virgin" car or "good as new 10 yrs old car"....

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    What about the 30-year old virgin? haha. Joke. Palagay ko magiging depende sa iyo yan kung ano priorities mo. Kung OK ang budget mo at important sa iyo ang reliability at efficiency, sa new Civic ka na. Pero kung nagtitipid ka at may know-how at oras ka mag maintain, the ten year old virgin should be fine -- assuming, as Niky says, that she is indeed a virgin. Kung dun ka nga lang sa huli, magsama ka ng 'duktor' para maka-siguro. hehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    the SIR is what? 9-10 yrs old car? there is no such thing as a "virgin" car or "good as new 10 yrs old car"....
    Believe me, there are. They may be hard to find, but they're out there, and that's what makes them even more desirable.

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    Mr. WaxDaddy at Speedlab got a real "virgin" SIR (all stock, did 144 whp on the dyno... ) for 420 k or so... then sold it for a "virgin" Subie with only 17k kms on the odo...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Mga bossing,

    This is my first time to post on this thread. I am a first owner of a 2000 sir which has logged around 100,000 kms. The car's engine has been maintained by the casa and I have never raced it. No modifications, all original accessories. I use it to go to work from Q.C. / Pasig to Makati.

    Someone is quoting me 330,000 for the sir. Is this a good price? Most of the buy and sell magazines peg the price for the same car at around 380,000 to 400,000. Based on my experience, the car is really dependable and for those na gustong humataw paminsan-minsan, mas okay siya compared to the newer civic models.

    Salamat sa advice mga boss.

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    Since there are buyers even at a higher price it would be to your advantage to up your price as well start with P380 or something like that kasi siguradong tatawaran ka ng buyer then from there ikaw na bahala ano floor price mo....

    As for the topic. I would just go for the FD Civic. Although porma talaga ng SIR its still an old car, unless racer boy ka talaga then maybe the SIR is for you but for regular folks like me you're better of with a newer car...

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    I just wish we had the Mugen Si here. Is it possible to get it from the casa? Imported but from them?

    FD for me. Porma. Underground racing days are gone anyway and a 8-9 year old car will always be 8-9 years old. Virgin? Mahirap na talaga maghanap nun ngayon, Kahit sa mga ba..ba.. tukan kita dyan <<<< asawa ko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnl View Post
    Mga bossing,

    This is my first time to post on this thread. I am a first owner of a 2000 sir which has logged around 100,000 kms. The car's engine has been maintained by the casa and I have never raced it. No modifications, all original accessories. I use it to go to work from Q.C. / Pasig to Makati.

    Someone is quoting me 330,000 for the sir. Is this a good price? Most of the buy and sell magazines peg the price for the same car at around 380,000 to 400,000. Based on my experience, the car is really dependable and for those na gustong humataw paminsan-minsan, mas okay siya compared to the newer civic models.

    Salamat sa advice mga boss.
    Some people will pay up to 400,000 for a virgin car, but at 100,000 kms, your car is hardly a "virgin". 330k is acceptable, but you might get 350k if the buyer likes it.

    Yes, you can say you've never raced it, but there are so many people who take modified SIRs and remove the mods and sell them as "stock" that buyers have become wary. It'll all come down to the actual condition of the engine (how smooth it sounds, etcetera). If the car sounds good and runs smoothly, you might get 350 or so, but I doubt you can get 400k.

    A friend paid 400k for one with just 30,000 kilometers on the odometer (from a trusted seller), and that one was so fresh that it made 10 hp more on the dyno than a stock car... (waitaminute... what? )

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    the SIR is what? 9-10 yrs old car? there is no such thing as a "virgin" car or "good as new 10 yrs old car"....
    Oh yes there are. Believe it or not nakakita na ako ng 1983 lancer boxtype, with all of the original plastic wrap still intact (this was in 2005)!

    Then there are the concourse de eleganza cars, which are better than new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbeige View Post
    Believe me, there are. They may be hard to find, but they're out there, and that's what makes them even more desirable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    Oh yes there are. Believe it or not nakakita na ako ng 1983 lancer boxtype, with all of the original plastic wrap still intact (this was in 2005)!

    Then there are the concourse de eleganza cars, which are better than new.
    yah, there might be some, and even if there are, in my book a 9-10 yr old car will never be a "virgin", no matter how I look at it, there will always be deterioration some way or another unless they were enclosed in a vacuum sealed, climate/humidity controlled room....
    Last edited by shadow; January 3rd, 2008 at 08:57 AM.

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