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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Hi

    This is the first time I will post a thread here in tsikot and I hope I will have a good input on you guys.

    Tagal na ko nagbabasa ng mga forums dito sa mga cars and I'm having a dilemma right now on choosing what car to buy. Please help me choose the right one.

    1st Civic 2001 VTI manual
    86K mileage
    newly replace shocks (front)
    with new foglights ok naman and ride at body some minor hairline scratch sa bumper
    Price is 335K (sagad na daw)
    third owner na ko nun.

    2nd Vios 2004 1.3e manual
    126K mileage (high nga lang)
    newly replace clutch liining and oil seal sa engine (di ko alam yun) pero 1500 daw price nun OEM
    Minor scratch sa bung body at minor retouch sa paint
    Price 315K (sagad na rin)
    Third owner na rin ako nun

    Both cars are in good running condition already done a test drive.

    Wala ako masyado alam sa car, alam ko lang mag maneho. This will be an upgrade from my LEC sentra. Please help...

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    sir kung wala kang masyadong alam sa kotse. magsama ka ng suking mekaniko ng LEC mo tapos ipasuri mo yung oto.

    namamahalan ako sa VTi although i like it better than the Vios or baka ako lang yun, kasi kuripot talaga ko tumawad sa kotse. Matipid kasi yung VTi but roomier than the Vios.

    Sir have scouted for an 2002-03 Civic LXi? Baka halos same price lang. wala din naman airbags at abs ang VTi same lang sa LXi. Main difference is smaller wheels and 1.5L (110hp) engine. Pag swertehin ka pa, baka yung facelifted pa yung makuha mo.

    ganito ichura pero maliit mags

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    #3
    Consider to your purchase the possible conditions:
    *Maintaining cost with spare parts
    *Drive comfort (on your preference)
    *Overall condition both internal and external (Bring a trusted mechanic)
    *Average using condition such as # of pax, desired fuel efficiency, average distance per use

    Both cars are good in my opinion, although the civic is priced high, it all boils down to your needs and preference... I'm a Toyota owner and I can atest that my vios is very reliable

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    The Civic is obviously more powerful than the vios.

    This Civic ( I think ) is prone into rusting roofs

    Fuel Consumption is higher than of the vios.

    The Civic isn't old-looking though.

    My pick ? For city driving, get the vios. For some highway drives, get the civic ( well consider though if it's in the best shape )

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    has the civic's timing belt been changed? Transmission oil been changed?
    Let the previous owner change it, before u buy it. Good deal na yun, pag ganun.

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    a 2004 VIOS with 126K mileage? around 25.2K km per year? that mileage is too large. bug-bog na yan. and remember the VIOS is a low end model for toyota while the Civic is a mid model (akin to the Altis for toyota) for honda.

    find a better deal than this VIOS. With that mileage it should call for a cheaper price than the 300K++ pesos asking price.

    The civic has a 10.75K km per year usage. still high but better than the vios.

    other factors should be taken into account but overall that particular vios is a bad deal.

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    #7
    Baka naman ex-taxi yung vios tapos hindi lang pinagtapat ng owner ? :um:

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    I-check mo ang condition at itest drive yang dalawang oto at wag kalimutan magsama ng trusted mechanic. Wag ka magbase sa mileage na sinasabi nila dahil madali lang dayain yan.

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    Thanks sa mga reply.

    Pina check ko na yung civic sa mechanic ko at ok naman yung endgine and suspension yun nga lang di pa napalitan yung timing belt but need to replace day yun after 100K na mileage so ok pa. Yung vios baka bukas ko na dalhin sa mechanic ko pero taas talaga nang mileage nun mataas pa sa LEC ko na 124K. Pero interior ng both cars are in good condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiks333 View Post
    Thanks sa mga reply.

    Pina check ko na yung civic sa mechanic ko at ok naman yung endgine and suspension yun nga lang di pa napalitan yung timing belt but need to replace day yun after 100K na mileage so ok pa. Yung vios baka bukas ko na dalhin sa mechanic ko pero taas talaga nang mileage nun mataas pa sa LEC ko na 124K. Pero interior ng both cars are in good condition.
    Sir sure ka bang totoo yung 86K mileage pa lang tinatakbo ng Civic? OK na ok sa akin yung porma nung civic compared sa Vios.

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    malamang ahente ang may ari ng vios na in-audition niyo sir kaya on the high side ang mileage.

    re the civic, verify mo na din kong nasama iyan sa recall ng honda re the fuel line/tank imbroglio and the sensor thing w/c was a source of irritation among those 7th gen civic owners. may thread iyan somewhere about those dito sa tsikot.

    and also sa pag-kaka-alam ko hindi na prob ng es models ang rusty roofs. sa 5th gen ng civics lumabas iyong problema na iyan nung tumanda ang mga eg line
    Last edited by baludoy; November 24th, 2009 at 11:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiks333 View Post
    Thanks sa mga reply.

    Pina check ko na yung civic sa mechanic ko at ok naman yung endgine and suspension yun nga lang di pa napalitan yung timing belt but need to replace day yun after 100K na mileage so ok pa. Yung vios baka bukas ko na dalhin sa mechanic ko pero taas talaga nang mileage nun mataas pa sa LEC ko na 124K. Pero interior ng both cars are in good condition.
    100k mileage nga ang talagang palitan ng timing belt, pero highly recommended na pinapalitan na dapat yan * 80k.

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    How much po ba ang timing belt ng VTEC 3? At kung papalitan ko siya kasama na yung transmission oil how much would it be??

    Kasi sa Vios kailangan ko pa ipa retouch yung paint at yung mga gasgas sa door. Sabi nila almost 5K daw ang gastos nun.

    Pinakita ko na sa mechanic yung VIOS at sabi nya sa akin na ok naman yung car how ever yung mileage talaga sobra taas at napalitan na rin yung clutch at yung oil seal (?). Mas ok daw yung civic. Mataas nga lang yung price. Yun na rin ang ini-isip ko. Kaya lang mura anf maintenace ng Vios compare sa Civic.

    Please continue your input habang di pa ako makapag decide. Thanks

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    Sa tingin ko mahal yung Civic sa price nya, at third owner ka pala kung nabili mo, kung 2nd pwede pa. Yung Vios naman, mataas na din ang odometer reading, third owner ka na din, tapos baka may tagas pa yung makina nyan. Suggestion ko lang, maghanap na lang ng ibang kotse, wag magmadali, halos lahat ngayon ng nagbebenta, ahente kaya mahirap magtiwala. Yun lang. Thanks

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    yung Vios masyadong mahal. bugbog sarado, ang dami pang gasgas, pwedeng ex-taxi na naka-drop na ang line. isipin mo, magpapa-paint/hilamos ka pa

    sa civic ka na, sure ball kang private use lang yan. Geez, I hate Honda and Toyota pero this time, sa Civic na ako hehe.

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    dapat 80k lang nagpalit na ng timing belt imho. baka mapatidan ka.

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    i'd go with the civic....

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    Update! I have got the civic. Ito kasi ang mga kasama nya so nagdecide na ko na kunin ang unit:

    -comprehensive insurance for 1 yr
    -no need to retouch any paint
    -na ka porma na complete with side skirt and rain guard
    -complete manual and record of maintenace from casa
    -casa maintain until now (80K PMS done na)
    -at importante sa lahat gusto ng mother ko kasi half ng budget sa kanya

    donwside lang eh 60% na lang ang mga tires baka need ko na rin palitan ang mga yun. Ipon muna bago ko palitan..

    Salamat sa mag inputs nyo. Sana hindi masyado mahal ang maintenace ng civic na to, at based sa mga post dito sa tsikot mura na rin daw and maintenace ng mga Honda

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    congrats!

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    congrats! pics naman dyan!

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