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    Kung wrong section, pa-move nalang mods.

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    Pansin ko lang kasi, when people buy second hand cars, they prefer CASA maintained vehicles. And usually kapag hinde CASA maintained, ma-turn off sila. Bakit? Some CASA sell ridiculous engine oils which sometimes doesn't even reach the least specs needed for the car. So what good do you get from there?

    Shops outside usually have better oils, and if you know your cars, you know which oil to get... and which oil is good for the car. For example, Motul.. CASA doesn't sell Motul, or Royal Purple or Zic or whichever. And they don't sell oil filters which are considered here as good, too. Heck, some don't even let you bring your own parts, and if they do, they charge you a corkage fee for what?? Bringing oil that's better than what they're selling.

    Some CASAs have OJT as mechanics, sell overpriced parts then to top it all off make you pay a huge amount as labor. I don't think mas maganda ang CASA maintained sa kotseng "thoroughly maintained using above average parts" .. all we need as proof after all are receipts.

    What do you guys think?

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    Like my dad said, mas may habol tayo kapag sa casa pinagawa, like say kapag pumalpak. For peace of mind na lang yung binayad na extra.


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    records and "presumption of regularity" pag CASA ginawa,,,

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    Sabagay mas maganda pag puno yung booklet, noh?

    Ako 1T PMS then 5T PMS sa CASA, pero after nun hinde na.

    Sarili ko nalang ulit with my own parts. Itabi ko nalang lahat ng resibo.

    Ikaw ba, Shadow, CASA pa rin lahat ng oto mo?

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    Boblax din ibang CASA e, yun FD namin hindi gumagana AC several weeks ago, nung pina-check wala naman daw problema kasi gumana dun.. ngayon hinde nanaman umandar yun AC :bwahaha:

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    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    Sabagay mas maganda pag puno yung booklet, noh?

    Ako 1T PMS then 5T PMS sa CASA, pero after nun hinde na.

    Sarili ko nalang ulit with my own parts. Itabi ko nalang lahat ng resibo.

    Ikaw ba, Shadow, CASA pa rin lahat ng oto mo?

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    the most 1 year lang then wala na...

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    *beni

    Sa bahay lang. Kumpleto naman tools namin para magawa yun usual na ginagawa sa CASA. Nakikita ko pa ginagawa, at nammake sure ko pa na mahigpit pagbalik ng screws at kung anu ano.

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    Pag oil change and minor trouble siguro puede sa Casa. But ung mga trouble shootings bagsak ang mga mechanics nila. Like in my case dinala ko ung Honda FD dahil nag wi wiggle ung manibela when applying brakes at around 80kph. Then road test ng chief mechanic, replace or machine shop daw ung rotor disk and replace din mga tie rod and rack ends, akala ko warranty kaya hinabol ko, they estimated the cost around 20K. Iniuwi ko nalang ung FD and replace the disk pad 650 pesos lang. nawala ung wiggle when braking. Casa maintained is the same as backyard mechanic maintained just my two cents.

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    i guess second hand buyers assume na bopols sa auto ang respective owners nila and they assume being casa maintained, it gives us the benefit of the doubt na at least maintained by the casa...

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    CASA maintained with receipts is a viewed as a stamp of approval (to people) and assurance that counterfeit and substandard "replacement" parts have not been used. It also presumes (without close inspection of receipts and records) that the vehicle has been serviced within the prescribed periods as required in the manual, using genuine parts, and utilizing the prescribed tools and equipment.

    Its not limited to this country. Just watched the episode of FIFTH GEAR last week. Johnny was comparing what's its like to service your own vehicle vs having a service center do it for you. For example, he say you may save ₤ 2,000 by servicing the vehicle but you also lose the same amount when it comes resale value. vs that of a "casa maintained" vehicle.

    If I'm buying a pre owned vehicle, I still prefer casa maintained with receipts compared to one that has been serviced by Mang toto's talyer. :D

    As for my own vehicles, I have them serviced by a mechanic but I use the best oil and filter possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    As for my own vehicles, I have them serviced by a mechanic but I use the best oil and filter possible.
    Pareho tayo. :D

    Meron kasi kaming mekaniko talaga pero ako namimili ng gamit na gagamitin. Tsaka pwede ko pa pagawa sakanya yung mga supposed na hindi pa gagawin sa CASA, say linis ng preno.

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    Personal opinion ko po ito.

    Pag ung CASA ay meron rule na bawal panoorin ang vehicle mo while being serviced, yan ang mga CASA na iniiwasan ko.

    Madami nga naman na auto shop na allowed ka panoorin ang car mo while ginagawa nila, kaso nga lang anong car ba talaga ang expertise nila? Honda, Toyota, Mazda, etc.

    Sa CASA kasi, kahit papaano meron akong assurance na more than once nakapag handle na sila ng same vehicle na katulad ng car ko.

    Car manufacturer prefered oils at original replacement parts, gives me also peace of mind.

    Siguro hanga love ko pa din ang car ko ang PMS ko sa CASA pa din.


    OT: parang sa choice ng car insurance, do you want to pay higher premium with a comprehensive insurance or happy ka na ba sa TPL dahil mas mura.

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    Prestige yo. :D

    But seriously, on CASA maintained, for most people it's the only way to be able to determine the service history of the car and they assume that what has to be repaired or serviced has indeed been done. When we would buy second hand cars before, it helps us verify the mileage and service history as well.

    For the types who opt to have the service done outside of the CASA, it is more of the exception than the norm that people have it done at a shop of their choice so they can have leeway on the parts/fluids they use, and they proactively change what has to be changed even before the part is due for replacement. The primary reason for going outside the CASA is cost and some shops will always try to please their customers by keeping the repair/maintenance bill low by striking off some items and going for cheap replacements. If you can find someone selling his car and he/she is the type who has a 3rd party do the service so they can get more hands-on in the things they use, because they are choosy in using the best parts/fluids for their rides, they replace parts proactively in hopes of really doing "preventive maintenance", and they have the records to back it all up, then that is a good buy in most cases.

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    So, where do you guys go for your PMS?


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    Quote Originally Posted by beni23 View Post
    So, where do you guys go for your PMS?


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    Sa Rapide daw.

    After my one year or 15,000kms to 20,000kms stay at the CASA, the alternative shop i go to depends also on the repair/service that needs to be done. Usually i go to Motech for service and suspension work. Parts i buy from my suking tindahans. I also go to guys like Jemson, Servitek and Wheelers in Banawe.

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    Usually one to two years probation period sa casa...older or once may makita nang reliable 3rd party na pwedeng magmaintain, bye bye casa :-)

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    sa pag-mamaintain hanggang sa matapos siguro, 3years warranty lang naman e, after nun kahit DIY na lang.

    pag-dating sa mga additional accessories like foglight, maganda dyan kung may kakilala ka sa loob mismo ng casa, yung Honda Civic 2009 ni uncle, yung pa-install daw ng foglights sa loob ng casa e 10,000 ata, pero dahil barkada niya yun isa taga-loob na nakapaglalabas ng mga accessories e, 5k na lang, sa bahay na lang nila mismo ginawa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beni23 View Post
    So, where do you guys go for your PMS?


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    Ako sa Toyota Manilabay, kasi pwede ko panoorin habang on going ung PMS ng car ko, tapos nakakausap ko din ung mga mekaniko at nagtatanong na din ako kung ano ung mga sa tingin nila na need ko pag-ipunan kasi malapit ng palitan.

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    Casa after warranty swerti makita nyo auto ko dyan


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    Quote Originally Posted by kenzie View Post
    Casa after warranty swerti makita nyo auto ko dyan


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    Casa after warranty... pwede siguro, kung ako may- ari ng casa. hehehe.
    Pag may sasakyan ka, hahanap at hahanap ka rin ng reliable talyer o workshop na gagawa sa sasakyan mo,
    na mas malapit sa place niyo. Marami namang magagaling na mekaniko. marami ring mabibilhan ng piyesa.
    You won't be needing casa that much... unless, mapagkawanggawa ka at wala kang paglagyan ng pera.
    I really can't find anything so special about being casa maintained. car resale value siguro...

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    Re. a supposed higher car resale value. If ever a CASA maintained car does have higher resale value (i personally think not), chances are the total amount you'll spend for CASA service will still cost you more then what the higher sale price gains would ever be.

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