Toyota FX model, diesel or gasoline?

**glenn manikis** · July 6th, 2012 01:48 PM

go for the diesel sir... marami dyan 100k lang ang bentahan ng diesel... then pang repairs mo yung 50k.... just be sure maayos pa yung engine at hindi turbo at hindi din converted to diesel lang..... ang turbo kasi malakas din sa diesel... pag dating naman sa maintenance mura lang ang parts ng fx at matibay pa, yung fx namin dati parang hindi nga nasisira, pati calibration hindi din po ako nagpacalibrate alagaan lang sa change oil at wag nyo po high rev.... i would recommend ang kuning mo eh yung hindi pa power steering... para less din sa maintenance pang bario lang naman...

pag gas naman po double po ang consumo sa diesel....

**GTi** · July 6th, 2012 07:06 PM

Tamo, grabe naman yun 5-6km/L

. The Fortuner 2.7VVTi drinks about this much, pati na rin maraming smaller displacement V6 engines... And then gasoline costs P10/L more than diesel...

Our diesel Revo gets me around 7.5km/L city driving. Supposedly mas mataas pa pero grabe ang traffic sa Metro Manila, and I am a rather heavy footed driver. In fact I floor this car a lot.

Lighter footed drivers who have driven our Revo get much better FC numbers.

IMHO hindi naman lagi na turbocharged diesels consume more than n/a diesels. My lead-footed uncle used to own a manual box-type 3 door Pajero. He had the original 4D56 transplanted with a 4M40 engine (still with the original manual tranny). Napakabaliw nun magmaneho! And yet he still gets 8km/L on average. It is all about the power to weight distribution. Kung n/a nga pero you have to flog it to keep a decent pace, malakas din ang paghigop niyan.

**armscor40** · July 7th, 2012 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by talgeese

I'm not sure if this would help..but my uncle who still uses their 1997 FX GL gas model as their service (usually fully loaded) for their canteen in UST tells me that he consumes around 5-6 km/L..his daily route is from Araneta going to UST via p.margal..so I guess talagang malakas lang sa gas yung mga FX na 1.8 carb..

Probably I would consider the diesel fx.

ganun sir, takot naman po ako sa consumption nya considering mas maliit displacement ng engine nya...baka naman po naka-modified kaya ganun or hindi po properly maintained coz yun nga pangdelivery na, just guessing lang po...dapat yun time to replace na IMO lang sir...

**armscor40** · July 7th, 2012 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by glenn manikis

go for the diesel sir... marami dyan 100k lang ang bentahan ng diesel... then pang repairs mo yung 50k.... just be sure maayos pa yung engine at hindi turbo at hindi din converted to diesel lang..... ang turbo kasi malakas din sa diesel... pag dating naman sa maintenance mura lang ang parts ng fx at matibay pa, yung fx namin dati parang hindi nga nasisira, pati calibration hindi din po ako nagpacalibrate alagaan lang sa change oil at wag nyo po high rev.... i would recommend ang kuning mo eh yung hindi pa power steering... para less din sa maintenance pang bario lang naman...

pag gas naman po double po ang consumo sa diesel....

this is somehow i wanted to hear hehe at least meron na positive kahit paano, thanks sir glenn

**armscor40** · July 7th, 2012 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by GTi

Tamo, grabe naman yun 5-6km/L

. The Fortuner 2.7VVTi drinks about this much, pati na rin maraming smaller displacement V6 engines... And then gasoline costs P10/L more than diesel...

Our diesel Revo gets me around 7.5km/L city driving. Supposedly mas mataas pa pero grabe ang traffic sa Metro Manila, and I am a rather heavy footed driver. In fact I floor this car a lot.

Lighter footed drivers who have driven our Revo get much better FC numbers.

IMHO hindi naman lagi na turbocharged diesels consume more than n/a diesels. My lead-footed uncle used to own a manual box-type 3 door Pajero. He had the original 4D56 transplanted with a 4M40 engine (still with the original manual tranny). Napakabaliw nun magmaneho! And yet he still gets 8km/L on average. It is all about the power to weight distribution. Kung n/a nga pero you have to flog it to keep a decent pace, malakas din ang paghigop niyan.

this is definitely true dahil most of the time i know na fuel consumption also depends on the foot of the driver not only on the car itself, sisihin ba naman sasakyan eh kung magpatakbo naman akala mo wala ng bukas hehe...i'm not like that if theres a need to be light pedal crusher gagawin for savings purposes sir...

**zap.FREEDOM** · July 7th, 2012 09:45 PM

OT: ^ oo nga, nun kasagsagan na nasa 50 and up ang presyo ng gas, nagtataka ang mga barkada kung bakit madalas ko pa rin nagagamit yung Revo, sinasabi ko na lang, matipid naman to KAHIT PAPAANO e, since light footed lang naman ako, takbong swabe/pogi lang sa expressway, neutral kapag medyo pababa yung daan at most of the time di ako naka-aircon (except pagtanghaling tapat talaga)...just a hint pa, malakas yung revo gas kapag yung rear aircon/dual aircon e naka-on on it's max. since malamig naman aircon ng revo, i just using the front/dashboard aircon even though i have a passenger at the backseat and i just keep the rear aircon off. siguro nakaka-harness din ako ng 10km/L on mixed driving condition.

In my Opinion naman, over the gas or diesel Fx, I most prefered the gas (5k or in some models already 7k carb engine) di talaga ako sampalataya dyan sa diesel ng toyota lalo na yan 2C na yan, I went from an automotive technical school at talagang yan ang pinaka-ayaw namin buuin/kumpunihin for some trial/troubleshooting practicum noon...sa gas oo, it is so reliable talaga. Kung maiistretch mo sana budget better to get an Isuzu Hi-Lander over these Toyota variants, it is jurassic though proven and reliable.

**armscor40** · July 8th, 2012 05:04 PM

there are lots of pros & cons between the two variant...and maintenance is also a factor so kahit pala sa technical school negative feedback ng 2C maybe kaya pala hindi masyado nagtagal ang engine type nya unlike its predecessor na 2L w/ or w/o turbo pa...too much stretching is prohibited as instructed by my finance manager (mrs.) hehe kaya have to exert extra effort in finding the right engine w/ the right price...thanks sir zap.

**glenn manikis** · July 8th, 2012 05:30 PM

sir yung 2C na diesel proper driving lang at maintenance ang kailangan tatagal yan... more than 10 years tumagal ang engine ng fx po namin, na overhaul lang yun kasi napabayaan sa change oil at yung driver matagal mag change ng gear never pang nacalibrate po yun for 13years... pag diesel fx dapat talaga shift ka ng shift to high gear low speed kasi ang tranny... ang pangit lang sa diesel ng fx eh mausok talaga pag malalim tapak mo (pero lagyan mo lang ng 2T tangal na din po usok nun) pumapasa nga po sa smoke emmision).... sa lakas po sa gas ng gasoline eh bawing bawi ka sa diesel na fx kaya nga po halos wala po kayong makikitang pamasada na gasolina na fx.... change oil dapat ng fx nasa 4k lang change oil ka na dapat....

compare naman sa isuzu mas modelo nga pero yung mga pamasada nga na highlander yearly daw ang calibration, samantalang ang mga pamasadang fx more than 5 years tatagal ang injection pump wag lang mapabayaan tangke baka madumi na at fuel filter.... pag dating po sa reliability para sakin mas reliable pa din ang fx....at imbes na idagdag mo sa pang bayad mo ng highlander idagdag mo nalang po sa maintenance ng mabibile mo na fx... im sure mas maganda na yun at makinis pa....

hanap kayo ng super mura na at least maayos ang engine or body and paint... then pagawa nyo lahat then pagawa nyo lahat ng hindi maayos.. gumastos man kayo ng 100k sa repair good as new naman na yun.... bibilang po kayo ng taon ulit....

**armscor40** · July 8th, 2012 09:00 PM

i always practice that proper driving & religious maintenance sa mga rides ko...your point in emphasizing the reliability of diesel engine is well accepted sa katulad natin fanboy ng diesel but not to its counterpart, to each his own love & hate...respect na lang each other.

slight knowledge on old school engine but can learn if have the unit, if have the budget i would definitely choose highlander over the other first & foremost coz of its legendary engine even jurassic era model still running in PUJs but the cost is a far off from our limited budget kaya FX came to my mind w/c the coo of the family rightfully approved w/o hesitation pa yun ha...

what i have in mind is to look for unit w/ good engine altho w/ body repairs or no a/c is still acceptable but at a much lower price then i'll take care of the rest...for that i could be able to have it repaired according to my specs & choices of replaced parts...Hoping i could find one...cross my fingers XXX...thanks mga bros for helpful tips & advices...update the thread on this project >>>

**GTi** · July 8th, 2012 10:25 PM

Yung Isuzu 4JA1 naman kasi napakausok, kaya calibration lagi. Yun nga lang napakatipid nito at mas malakas ang hatak as compared to the 2.0L FX engine.

Like I said before, any car engine, even the known-to-be-problematic 2C can serve you well if you take care of it properly. Can the 2C be more problematic than the Isuzu 4JX1? And yet it served us well for eight years with minimal breakdown.

The best for me would still be getting an FX in good condition and then get a 2L transplant. You can probably trade in the old engine if it is still in good working order and save a few thousand bucks.