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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    please i need some advice

    ok pa rin ba bumili ng civic 99-00 with 117k millage?

    like this one po
    my budget is around 250k

    father owned 1996 accord
    since then ive been a fan of honda cars
    so ive been thinking of buying a civic

    Exterior
    Fresh & flawless paint anzal
    Strip to metal
    Spoon blue
    Jdm rain gutter
    Jdm raybrig bumper
    Jdm oneliner grill
    Jdm oem chin
    Raybrig foglight
    depo headlight
    Stanley tail light
    Stanley fender light
    Rare retractable sidemirror (working)
    Fgk wagolis chambered muffler
    Bwr subframe
    Adjustable coilsleeve
    15s rota mf10
    Achilles tires 90% front 95% rear
    Bnew brakepad

    Interior
    intact interior
    Intact rear seat
    Carbon look gauge panel etc
    1din headunit
    jvc stereo with aux
    Jdm maplight with shades holder
    Ground zero tweeter
    Pps speakers
    Mono lightning lab Amp
    Sound Magus Amp
    Momo montecarlo sw
    Mugen shiftknob
    Short shift

    Engine
    Ph16
    Port & polish
    Piston PM6
    CROWER STAGE 3 cams
    CROWER retainer and springs
    GOLDEN EAGLE Adjustable Cam gear
    GATES Racing Cam Gear belt
    B18 FUEL INJECTORS
    WALBRO fuel pump
    AEM fuel rail
    AEM fuel regulator
    SAMCO hoses
    HASPORT engine support
    ICEMAN air intake tube
    NGK hi tension wires
    Aluminum Rad
    B18 throttle Body
    B16 intake manifold
    JTR headers
    Mugen oilcap
    Bnew 1 week old battery
    Bnew starter
    Bnew alternator
    Ice cold aircon

    been wondering since ang daming pinalit di kaya lumabas mga problems after months?
    or should i buy the white one na halos at stock

    or you have better offer? or link

    please advice salamat po ng madami :D

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    Ohh, JDM Numbah One! [emoji23]

    Personally though I would prefer a stock unit. We do not know if the car has been raced, or the quality of the modification work, especially if the owner is selling for cheap. Should you plan on modifying the car, an already modified unit takes half the fun out of it!

    Also with 250k, you can already get an FD...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Ohh, JDM Numbah One! [emoji23]

    Personally though I would prefer a stock unit. We do not know if the car has been raced, or the quality of the modification work, especially if the owner is selling for cheap. Should you plan on modifying the car, an already modified unit takes half the fun out of it!

    Also with 250k, you can already get an FD...

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    un nga po .. mdami din mga FD na offer for 250k with 100k millage din
    but i really really like civic 99-00 sir body
    ung tipong mapapalingon ka pag may brroooom na dumaan
    FD nga d nmn ako masaya. no hate sa FD pag nadamitan sobrang ganda din kagaya nung kapitbahay namin na nka setup FD blue

    strip to metal d nmn cguro issue to sir?
    according to owner daily use lang d pinang raseng raseng
    and those changes in engine parts..

    sorry total noob when it comes to car..
    and ive been scammed before with b18 eg hatch .. blowby engine

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeno8 View Post
    un nga po .. mdami din mga FD na offer for 250k with 100k millage din
    but i really really like civic 99-00 sir body
    ung tipong mapapalingon ka pag may brroooom na dumaan
    FD nga d nmn ako masaya. no hate sa FD pag nadamitan sobrang ganda din kagaya nung kapitbahay namin na nka setup FD blue

    strip to metal d nmn cguro issue to sir?
    according to owner daily use lang d pinang raseng raseng
    and those changes in engine parts..

    sorry total noob when it comes to car..
    and ive been scammed before with b18 eg hatch .. blowby engine
    The EK is truly a timeless design. A well kept unit will not look out of place among a parking lot of new cars.

    However, I am deterred by its lack of safety features. For a car that is supposed to be designed to go fast, there are no airbags, no ABS, and non SiR variants still have rear drums.

    I am a believer of the idea that the car is sort of like a painting by its owner. A car that is already set up reflects the previous owner's artistry and not mine. [emoji28] Therefore, an all original, bone stock unit is more valuable in my eyes.

    Also, if I were getting an EK, it would be either the SiR or nothing! [emoji23]

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    The EK is truly a timeless design. A well kept unit will not look out of place among a parking lot of new cars.

    However, I am deterred by its lack of safety features. For a car that is supposed to be designed to go fast, there are no airbags, no ABS, and non SiR variants still have rear drums.

    I am a believer of the idea that the car is sort of like a painting by its owner. A car that is already set up reflects the previous owner's artistry and not mine. [emoji28] Therefore, an all original, bone stock unit is more valuable in my eyes.

    Also, if I were getting an EK, it would be either the SiR or nothing! [emoji23]

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    thank you for your wisdom sir..


    are we talking about SiR body or with b16

    bec that set-up is SiR body

    pinka mababa ata na nakita ko na b16 SiR is 300k

    or better yet this one?

    Honda civic SiR body 2000 mdl padek154

    Engine

    - P6FD1 block
    - P2j cylinder head
    - Po8 HF-2 trothle body
    - Stock ecu 4.5 VTEC 🔥
    - S40 B0000 trany short gear
    - Skunk2 racing alpharad 2 row radiator (automatic fan)
    - Samco rad hose
    - Amaron battery
    - Solid engine supports
    - Try Y headers by Blanches
    - 2.5 pipings/Scuv 24inch full stainless
    - K3N airfilter
    Very good running condition. No engine leaks

    Exterior orig padek154 chasis

    - CF hood by carbon101
    - CF trunk by carbon101
    - CF fm chin gloosy by GCBautofiberworkx
    - Rota slipstreams/spoon mags 15s
    - Achilles 123's tires
    - Skunk adjustable coilsleeves solid suspension
    - Solid underchasis walang kalampag
    - SIR mesh grill
    - SIR foglamps working
    - JDM pole antenna motorized green light
    - LED headlights
    Presentable shiny paint. Color championship white alagang wax & buffing 🤩 unat lata kaha.

    Interior

    - Fresh interior very presentable
    - All power features working
    - All gauges accurate & working
    - Momo steering wheel
    - Momo quick release
    - Orig pioneer stereo aux/cd/radio
    - All speakers working
    - Ice cold aircon malamig kahit wlang tint
    - Keyless entry/alarm 2 spare keys

    Complete orig documents
    - Orig OR/CR
    - Open deed of sale
    - Complete id's 1stowner
    REGISTERED 2020

    may tama lang sa right fender 2k daw paaus

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeno8 View Post
    thank you for your wisdom sir..


    are we talking about SiR body or with b16

    bec that set-up is SiR body

    pinka mababa ata na nakita ko na b16 SiR is 300k

    or better yet this one?

    Honda civic SiR body 2000 mdl padek154

    Engine

    - P6FD1 block
    - P2j cylinder head
    - Po8 HF-2 trothle body
    - Stock ecu 4.5 VTEC [emoji91]
    - S40 B0000 trany short gear
    - Skunk2 racing alpharad 2 row radiator (automatic fan)
    - Samco rad hose
    - Amaron battery
    - Solid engine supports
    - Try Y headers by Blanches
    - 2.5 pipings/Scuv 24inch full stainless
    - K3N airfilter
    Very good running condition. No engine leaks

    Exterior orig padek154 chasis

    - CF hood by carbon101
    - CF trunk by carbon101
    - CF fm chin gloosy by GCBautofiberworkx
    - Rota slipstreams/spoon mags 15s
    - Achilles 123's tires
    - Skunk adjustable coilsleeves solid suspension
    - Solid underchasis walang kalampag
    - SIR mesh grill
    - SIR foglamps working
    - JDM pole antenna motorized green light
    - LED headlights
    Presentable shiny paint. Color championship white alagang wax & buffing [emoji2956] unat lata kaha.

    Interior

    - Fresh interior very presentable
    - All power features working
    - All gauges accurate & working
    - Momo steering wheel
    - Momo quick release
    - Orig pioneer stereo aux/cd/radio
    - All speakers working
    - Ice cold aircon malamig kahit wlang tint
    - Keyless entry/alarm 2 spare keys

    Complete orig documents
    - Orig OR/CR
    - Open deed of sale
    - Complete id's 1stowner
    REGISTERED 2020

    may tama lang sa right fender 2k daw paaus
    Yes, I meant the legit PADEK454 SiR. [emoji1]

    A now-deceased family member used to drive a 2000 SiR (in passion orange, no less!), from 2000-2005. I believe he sold it for around 400k at the time, and replaced it with a brand new Accord 2.4 for 1.4M, which he drove for 11 years before he passed away. We only got around to selling the Accord a few months ago. It had an aircon problem, which we for some reason could never find the right part for. So it was sold for just 150k.

    I find it funny that the previous SiR is actually worth way more now than the Accord that replaced it. And its value has not budged in the over 10 years since we sold it! Already a classic! Definitely worth the extra 50-100k over a souped up VTi, if you have the budget.

    Should you really want that VTi though. I suggest you go for a cheaper, stock, all original unit and then modify it yourself. The sense of achievement of building your own is priceless!

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    Those engine mods alone tell me they've been pushed hard.

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    I’m a Honda boy myself, owned a few over the years. I love the EK generation. Golden years yan ng Honda including the EG (92-95 civic)

    But for me, at least dapat may ABS & Driver/Passenger air bags. Minimum safety feature requirement ko yan. In other countries though may airbags ang EK civics. Not sure ABS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Those engine mods alone tell me they've been pushed hard.
    U think so? Bec thats what ive been thinking


    So i think ill choose stock? Around 200k?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeno8 View Post
    U think so? Bec thats what ive been thinking


    So i think ill choose stock? Around 200k?
    It depends.. I mean if you want an upgraded civic for the power? maybe they're ok. Ask what kind of oil they use. Additives if any. Some hide engine noise with viscosity thickeners. Or if they use 15w50 or thicker. Smoke on the tail pipe?

    Buying these oldies depend on two things, engine ok-ness and the rust.

    Go stockengine

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    sir.
    if i see one, with an accessorized list that long, and ends with "never been raced",
    i would be wary.

    these models are not that plentiful, and their owners probably know each other already.
    i'd probably ask around, whether the owner in fact did race his car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    sir.
    if i see one, with an accessorized list that long, and ends with "never been raced",
    i would be wary.

    these models are not that plentiful, and their owners probably know each other already.
    i'd probably ask around, whether the owner in fact did race his car.
    un nga po eh.. im a little skeptical

    so im leaning to stock civic like the others suggest

    and someone is also offering HONDA CIVIC 1.8v 2007 at 250k with 66k millage

    too good to be true with that millage? flooded maybe? or im just finding faults here

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeno8 View Post
    un nga po eh.. im a little skeptical

    so im leaning to stock civic like the others suggest

    and someone is also offering HONDA CIVIC 1.8v 2007 at 250k with 66k millage

    too good to be true with that millage? flooded maybe? or im just finding faults here
    250k is the normal going rate for a 2007 1.8V FD. My aunt sold hers for 220k last year.

    Also, if you're getting an FD, get the 1.8S at the very least. It comes with ABS which you can't add as an aftermarket mod, and is a very useful safety feature. Usually just 20k more expensive than a similar age/mileage 1.8V.

    The EK is only a better car than the FD in terms of affordable tuning potential for track use. As a daily driver, the FD is better, newer, more comfortable, more reliable.

    But if you really like the EK then go ahead. Just know that you're paying for a 20-year old car for the same money that can get you a 12-year old car. From my personal experience with secondhand cars, anything older than 10 years old tends to need much more maintenance than a younger car.



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    Quote Originally Posted by xeno8 View Post
    un nga po eh.. im a little skeptical

    so im leaning to stock civic like the others suggest

    and someone is also offering HONDA CIVIC 1.8v 2007 at 250k with 66k millage

    too good to be true with that millage? flooded maybe? or im just finding faults here
    You said you are a newbie to cars. Whether it be an EK or an FD, best to start with a stock vehicle and then slowly modify to your liking. Heavily modified vehicles may have very different "personalities" and preferences from a stock vehicle.

    66k is very low mileage for a 2007 model. My 2007 Santa Fe has 98k on the clock and is already considered low mileage for its age. It is not impossible though, especially if the owner has multiple vehicles and this one is just a backup or coding car. But for used vehicles, always take the mileage reading with a grain of salt and make sure the car's condition is in agreement with the mileage claimed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeno8 View Post
    un nga po eh.. im a little skeptical

    so im leaning to stock civic like the others suggest

    and someone is also offering HONDA CIVIC 1.8v 2007 at 250k with 66k millage

    too good to be true with that millage? flooded maybe? or im just finding faults here
    Sadly, even 2019 car mileage can be "doctored" for P2500.

    An earlier post, to which I agree with, advised to look at the overall condition of the car vis-a-vis its age, which is gonna be tough for you as you are a newbie as you stated.

    My vote goes to all stock, all original = more fun.

    Good luck

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    117K kms for a 20 year old car...

    The previous owner only used the car for 17kms per day (28days per month)

    SM North to UST... I feel like may mali sa odo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    117K kms for a 20 year old car...

    The previous owner only used the car for 17kms per day (28days per month)

    SM North to UST... I feel like may mali sa odo.
    The owner probably has other cars.

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    Or the owner goes to work 5 days a week only, deduct pa holidays, that's equal to 27 kms/day, deduct mo pa SL/VL/EL [emoji75]

    We do 21 kms daily, 5 days a week on our car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Or the owner goes to work 5 days a week only, deduct pa holidays, that's equal to 27 kms/day, deduct mo pa SL/VL/EL [emoji75]

    We do 21 kms daily, 5 days a week on our car.
    4day week coz of coding..

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    The owner probably has other cars.

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    how about 1400kms mileage for a 3 year old car?

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